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No. elleng Mar 2012 #1
Did you read all three articles before posting? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #2
I agree, I think think there's going to be one hell of a backlash they just don't see coming, mother earth Mar 2012 #140
Yes DJ13 Mar 2012 #3
Here's ProSense Mar 2012 #4
The White House should have pursued the Medicare-For-Anyone approach. muntrv Mar 2012 #5
They did not have the votes - and that is per Bernie Sanders karynnj Mar 2012 #98
No. blue neen Mar 2012 #6
What's your opinion of the private insurance requirement of the law? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #8
If they throw out mandatory coverage, it will destroy the plan. Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #10
It's not a public option pool. It's a private for-profit insurance industry pool. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #11
I'm not particularly defending Obama's plan. Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #13
States can adopt a public option as Vermont has done and Oregon is doing. joshcryer Mar 2012 #15
Vermont health bill mislabeled 'single payer': doctors group Better Believe It Mar 2012 #16
It is already in place. It is being funded by people choosing the public option. joshcryer Mar 2012 #20
So "It is already in place" Please post the fee and benefit schedule for it. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #56
Ahh, it was passed into law, but is not fully set up yet. joshcryer Mar 2012 #110
I see you edited your post. I did not, in fact, say it was single payer. You were talking about... joshcryer Mar 2012 #22
I didn't claim you said it was a single payer system. I quoted the doctors press release. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #55
"Please stop the right wing rhetoric" Why do you think the doctors organization is right-wing? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #57
You might ProSense Mar 2012 #58
Muddling single payer and public option is right wing rhetoric. joshcryer Mar 2012 #109
actually, we may well end up with single payer here in Vermont cali Mar 2012 #78
Yes the public option turns into single payer relatively easy, imo. joshcryer Mar 2012 #111
No they cannot Sgent Mar 2012 #71
Tell that to Vermont. joshcryer Mar 2012 #112
I don't live in Vermont Sgent Mar 2012 #122
Was discussing this emilyg Mar 2012 #32
You don't ProSense Mar 2012 #9
+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2012 #44
Too bad for kids whose parents don't have insurance themselves, or eridani Mar 2012 #34
And what happens to the 20-something who turns 26 or 27? shcrane71 Mar 2012 #54
Unfortunately, many people can no longer buy.. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #88
Excuse me? I wasn't saving money. I was saving my son. blue neen Mar 2012 #134
All I can say is, don't let perfect be an arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #7
Exactly, arthr. elleng Mar 2012 #12
That's my sense too. Build on it and make arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #17
How does one build on something the insurance industry and big pharma have a legal lock on? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #76
Deductibles, co-pays and benefit limits arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #90
+1000 baldguy Mar 2012 #41
Exactly Tomay Mar 2012 #120
Uh, no, if it gets struck down then health care will be rail roaded. joshcryer Mar 2012 #14
+1000. n/t pnwmom Mar 2012 #19
Fix what? The underlying system is fully the existing system. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #37
If the ACA is overturned Dems won't even think about National Healthcare for 50 more years. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #46
+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2012 #59
Bullshit, for no other reason than the cartel cannot survive 50 years with their current model TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #77
Democrats will be paralyzed, and do nothing. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #81
Of course it can't, but in the intrim people will die and suffer miserably. We agree. joshcryer Mar 2012 #115
Proping it up to try and get a couple generations out of it, has no costs? TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #136
Then it is our duty to make it suicide not to work for universial care. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #138
You're kind of obsessing over what it says today jeff47 Mar 2012 #51
What it says now is exactly what it is, Jeff. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #86
It's hidden in your 3rd sentence. jeff47 Mar 2012 #93
No it isn't. HHS's rules have completely changed the health care landscape. joshcryer Mar 2012 #114
Comedy GOLD! TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #139
Absolutely agree with your assessment. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #39
I strongly disagree. The last thing Rethugs would go for, while they're trying pnwmom Mar 2012 #18
How many Democratic Senators would you need in the Senate to get 60 votes for single payer? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #23
Single Payer is supposedly very popular among the public (so we keep hearing) Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #25
Why won't Democratic Senators even co-sponsor Senator Sanders single payer bill? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #60
Probably because most know/knew it's not going anywhere right now (and not even 2009-2011) Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #84
When Social security was made DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #21
SocSec did NOT mandate purchase of retirement plans from Wall Street n/t eridani Mar 2012 #35
But SocSec did mandate withdrawals from your paycheck. n/t DippyDem Mar 2012 #53
To cover a government, not private, retirement program. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #61
And that changes DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #97
It was the extreme left that guaranteed that Roosevelt had to come up with something eridani Mar 2012 #99
and you think DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #113
Obama will make mincemeat of Mitt on health care no matter what the court decides eridani Mar 2012 #121
call it horseshit DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #124
I'm not talking about any specific policy eridani Mar 2012 #131
In a perfect world Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #24
And in this magic world nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #26
And how many Democrats are needed in the Senate to pass Medicare for All? 51? 60? 70? More? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #27
If the congress and senate of 2008 did not teach you this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #31
Do you think 80 Senate Democrats would be enough to get it passed? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #62
And we don't have that right now nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #69
And when do you think 80 Democrats will be in the Senate? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #79
Once again, in the current environment it ain't happening nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #82
It could take generations to achieve single payer if the insurance industry law is allowed to stand. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #101
I prefer to live in reality nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #102
That "reality" accepts without a fight the domination of health care by Wall Street. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #129
In your imagination nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #133
You got it, dear Nadin! elleng Mar 2012 #28
+1 Johonny Mar 2012 #29
Good. At least by what I assume your definition of regulate is. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #100
Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #30
That they actually believe that Codeine Mar 2012 #67
In the context of the Individual Mandate, it's not a "tax". The intent of a "tax" is to generate cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #33
The mandate is easily covered by the commerce clause. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2012 #52
You should have called the Supreme Court before they had their meeting today then. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #126
Actually, I found today's coverage to be far too "chicken little" jeff47 Mar 2012 #130
No. Fucking. Way. jmowreader Mar 2012 #36
BINGO DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #38
Slightly OT, but what credit card company is in VA? n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #50
Capital One and several others DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #89
Check out the "friend of the court" briefs (record number) in this case. Who's for and who's against pampango Mar 2012 #40
And what is the position of the health insurance industry and big Pharma? They wrote the law. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #63
Wow, what strange bedfellows they have. joshcryer Mar 2012 #135
If the court says the Federal Government can't mandate rucky Mar 2012 #42
That would be the biggest argument laundry_queen Mar 2012 #85
Keep trying...nt SidDithers Mar 2012 #43
Unrec. More RW BS. n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #45
I agree but unfortunately, both political parties are married mmonk Mar 2012 #47
Then just pass Medicare for all, there is no need to throw out Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #48
Kill ObamaCare now, and we, the right-wing Republicans ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #49
Advocated by people that HAVE health care who want the system thrown into Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #64
Why and how is a system designed to prevent anything like single payer going to usher it in? TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #92
It is this law or nothing. Jennicut Mar 2012 #65
Nurses: Health Care Crisis Will Continue No Matter How Court Rules Better Believe It Mar 2012 #66
As a nurse, totally agree. Single payer is the only solution. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #72
But the belief that single-payer will rise from the ashes of a repealed ACA is insane... SidDithers Mar 2012 #73
and if congress could not get the ACA done right DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #95
No. Lisa D Mar 2012 #68
Funny stuff SOS Mar 2012 #70
Steffie Woolhandler was on Amy's show this morning. EFerrari Mar 2012 #74
Interesting ProSense Mar 2012 #80
The mandate is unConstitutional. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #75
EXACTLY. WinkyDink Mar 2012 #117
Ah yes, the old "all or nothing" JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #83
"forcing the public and the political system to finally consider the only real answer" wyldwolf Mar 2012 #87
bullshit. spanone Mar 2012 #91
ditto that bullshit call mikekohr Mar 2012 #123
never ceases to amaze me that some folks believe the Right will suddenly come to their senses librechik Mar 2012 #94
Meh. What do I care? My mom was natural born Canadian. Thus, I am Canadian too. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #96
I agree. CBGLuthier Mar 2012 #103
Medicare for everyone is the only solution!! B Calm Mar 2012 #104
We continue to feed the obscenely rich woo me with science Mar 2012 #105
Obamacare NOW--until Medicare for all spreads from state to state ErikJ Mar 2012 #106
The United States isn't like Canada. Canada has a multi-party system and democratic elections. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #128
What I fear is that ACA will be replaced with the status quo Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #107
Yes. It will be just like it was pre-2010. BlueDemKev Mar 2012 #118
PNHP is a right wing tool. bornskeptic Mar 2012 #108
I'm getting sick and tired of only gutless people defining "feasible" eridani Mar 2012 #132
If Congress wants to regulate the commerce of health, LET THEM DEMAND LOWER RATES FROM THE INSURERS. WinkyDink Mar 2012 #116
Realistically, if ACA is overturned, health care reform of any kind is dead for decades. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #119
If the health insurance industry bill is upheld, progressive health care reform is dead for decades. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #127
Horseshit. Bobbie Jo Mar 2012 #137
No... cynatnite Mar 2012 #125
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