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Ed Suspicious

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46. I was banned after a few very mildly critical posts about policy direction of the administration.

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:29 PM

Mar 2014

It is the only group, forum, whatever from which I have been removed. I was absolutely hurt and offended that my thoughts which were only meant to spur academic-like discussion would be taken so out of the realm of my intention and I was angry that they could/so flippantly disregard my points, points that I thought all decent people in good conscience would be willing to take up for the benefit of the party and in the interest of thoughtful discussion. When I was summarily banned by a 100,000 plus post poster who is lord of the group... Well, it brought to light for me the fanatical devotion of the BOG people and it made me realize that there were people here who weren't interested in discussion, only in expressions professing reverential adoration of a man who I thought was cool, but like all men, flawed. They sought to obscure those flaws from their group's eyes. It was weird and it was cult-like. I have since had trouble with the BOG people. I just cannot relate and in the end I guess I'm glad I'm not part of their odd little spin-doctorish group.

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Should we add a Dem-bashing clarification to the GD SoP? [View all] ucrdem Mar 2014 OP

Other: Separate Dem-Bashing forum undeterred Mar 2014 #1

I like it. ucrdem Mar 2014 #3

And it sounds like a party! undeterred Mar 2014 #6

how bout a forum where named democrats are worshipped as the new saviors :-) nt msongs Mar 2014 #2

We already have a group for that. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #4

We sure do! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #28

There's support, then there's worship. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #101

Worship, no. And you can't win without a little zealotry. ucrdem Mar 2014 #103

There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Palin would ever be president. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #112

That is often what was said about George Bush before he did become President... Spazito Mar 2014 #168

Oh, I see it every day... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #107

You're obviously unaware of the works of Will Pitt, aren't you? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #110

Oooh I am not unaware. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #119

You still didn't answer my question. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #150

Sorry, Vashta, looks like you've been SERVED by a superior intellect MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #188

Ha! Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #195

Well... Andy823 Mar 2014 #223

You both have a half a glass of water. Not a drop is added or taken away by how either spins it. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #165

BOG is here. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #13

So very sad isn't it? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #25

I was banned after a few very mildly critical posts about policy direction of the administration. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #46

You got all of that because JaneyVee Mar 2014 #62

The ban opened my eyes to the nature of the group. Time and experience with them outside of Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #66

BOG's theme song is Home On The Range hobbit709 Mar 2014 #151

It is a group not a forum. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #69

I get it now, at the time, the way I used DU was to read and reply to the latest threads. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #88

I appreciate your thoughtful response, Ed. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #96

I've gotten caught in a protected group by mistake a time or two. MADem Mar 2014 #189

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Mar 2014 #214

I have an idea! :-) sheshe2 Mar 2014 #17

GD: GG ucrdem Mar 2014 #23

Hey urcdem! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #30

Hiya, sheshe! ucrdem Mar 2014 #35

Hope springs eternal~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #74

Well they outright admitted that they are here for the money..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #45

Yes Indeed! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #86

So as Democrats we are NOT supposed to be pleased with them when they do great things.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #29

No I don't think he/she gets that, VR. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #34

Some how "Punching Democrats" for sport constitutes "supporting them and helping them get elected". VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #43

Well their mission is.. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #105

Well then I guess it is THEY that suck at politics not us.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #108

Yep voted for him twice Andy823 Mar 2014 #224

We are expected not to like Democrats on a Democratic Forum whose mission states" VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #61

You would think that would be inherent. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #5

Sadly they don't think, Bobbie Jo. nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #133

Other. How about a "No DUer Bashing" codicile? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #7

No objections but I think that's considered a jury issue. ucrdem Mar 2014 #11

Well, you're asking about making an addition to the SOP. This is the addition I propose. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #16

Ah. ucrdem Mar 2014 #20

I think politicians ought to be fair game. Why should they be protected? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #37

I'm not ruling out criticism, just FOX-style bashing. ucrdem Mar 2014 #57

I would say that "FOX-style" is in the eye of the beholder. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #65

The reason is that we want to win elections. ucrdem Mar 2014 #75

Nah, winning elections just for the sake of winning is not the end of politics nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #79

I believe in the truism, "All politics are local". When it comes to elections, what someone says scarletwoman Mar 2014 #95

that is already against the rules.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #48

Oh great then they just come here and BASH BASH BASH Democrats with no VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #32

Reprisal? How about simply making counter arguments? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #44

that is ALREADY the rules.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #49

First of all, there are no "rules" per se. There are "Community Standards" and SOP. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #59

There is a mission statement.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #63

I'm against "bashing each other" - as I clearly stated in my first post on this thread. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #68

How do you make counter "arguments" to hate? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #51

Who said anything about letting Republicans come? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #72

We ALREADY do not suffer them...BECAUSE all they do is "punch Democrats" on DU VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #81

Are you going to vote in the Midterms? Are you going to vote for Dems running for local offices? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #104

Oh really? treestar Mar 2014 #197

A place called "Democratic Underground" shouldn't be a forum for putting Democrats under the ground. baldguy Mar 2014 #8

In fact quite the opposite....it says so right in the Mission Statement.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #33

I said no, but would reconsider if the most ardent Bog-ers got to make the new rules list quinnox Mar 2014 #9

I think no Fox style garbage is enough. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #10

Ok, but not sure if some of the more hard core supporters would be satisfied with that quinnox Mar 2014 #12

Easy to solve....if they are on DU and NEVER have a positive thing to say about Democrats VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #36

You seem to have this thing all figured out. Maybe you should be one of the ones who help draw up quinnox Mar 2014 #92

If you are here...for the sole purpose of "punching Democrats" and it becomes obvious that it is all VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #97

Wonderful. You can be lead "enforcer" of these new rules. Put us all in line. quinnox Mar 2014 #99

Careful, you are about to get your first ODS red flag! Rex Mar 2014 #106

So... Andy823 Mar 2014 #225

No, some deserve it. Shoulders of Giants Mar 2014 #14

Okay but there's criticism and there's criticism. ucrdem Mar 2014 #15

I voted for Rod Blagojevich Shoulders of Giants Mar 2014 #19

Blago ucrdem Mar 2014 #26

blago was a good gov questionseverything Mar 2014 #54

That was my impression too. ucrdem Mar 2014 #82

yes some hate him questionseverything Mar 2014 #161

Was Rod Blagojevich protecting the 99% when he was attempting to extort a children's hospital? Shoulders of Giants Mar 2014 #230

since the koch's werent gonna fund him questionseverything Mar 2014 #239

Blagojevich is in jail now.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #38

Bashed into prison... ucrdem Mar 2014 #185

It's too ambiguous defacto7 Mar 2014 #18

Do you support Democrats on DU or do you ONLY come here to criticize them... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #39

I understand the premise defacto7 Mar 2014 #113

That has nothing to do with what I said.....and the rule is already in place... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #191

I like turtles. 1000words Mar 2014 #21

Much too vague tkmorris Mar 2014 #22

It means that IF like a Fox News viewer would do....you ONLY come on DU to punch Democrats VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #41

Systematic bashing of a Democratic President... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #52

Yes we do have abuse of rules here tkmorris Mar 2014 #138

Agreed! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #141

I think we need a whine bar pscot Mar 2014 #24

LOL! RKP5637 Mar 2014 #47

Would that be one of those exploding penguins? Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #111

Again... Back In The Day... What Would You Do With Joe Lieberman And Zell Miller ??? WillyT Mar 2014 #27

Neither are Democrats now so it wouldn't apply to them. ucrdem Mar 2014 #31

They Were Both Democrats When They Appeared At The Republican Conventions... WillyT Mar 2014 #40

As I understand it DU3 has only existed since April 2011. ucrdem Mar 2014 #50

And I have been around since nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #67

Hosts and juries did not exist prior to 2011. ucrdem Mar 2014 #70

And we still had standards. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #76

Possibly but this SoP was written for DU3. ucrdem Mar 2014 #78

Derived from the other two nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #80

Thanks, I try to be as transparent as possible. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #84

Can you explain what DU2 and DU1 and DU1.1 were? They existed long before DU3. madinmaryland Mar 2014 #71

Okay but the current SoP and division of duties is circa DU3. ucrdem Mar 2014 #77

Regardless of which DU version you have been on, WHINING about DU is a quick way to madinmaryland Mar 2014 #83

I'm making a constructive suggestion. ucrdem Mar 2014 #91

The thread opening post just makes a suggestion, asks a question, provides options. MADem Mar 2014 #234

max baucus technically still is...... think Mar 2014 #58

that was then....this is now.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #42

Have the current SoP enforced, that will go a long way. morningfog Mar 2014 #53

YES the mission says "to support and help elect Democrats" period... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #56

Might as well require discussion of issues instead of personalities n/t eridani Mar 2014 #55

I don't feel it needs to be part of the SOP. Agschmid Mar 2014 #60

how bout a "don't drink a fifth, smoke crack, or rip bong hits before posting OPs" addendum? dionysus Mar 2014 #64

True, this could happen. Rex Mar 2014 #73

! dionysus Mar 2014 #163

How about we don't waste everyone's time on Democratic Underground whose express mission it is: VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #93

Nailed it. There have been elections all year and opportunities to eduate voters on issues wasted.nt freshwest Mar 2014 #145

How about new people stop telling the regulars that we're Doing It Wrong? LeftyMom Mar 2014 #85

You noticed this too? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #89

Amen to that! (nt) scarletwoman Mar 2014 #109

... laundry_queen Mar 2014 #115

+1 U4ikLefty Mar 2014 #144

Ouch.. Fumesucker Mar 2014 #147

Nailed it. QC Mar 2014 #154

Fuckin' A! City Lights Mar 2014 #157

Actually I like it when they expose themselves as authoritarians. Rex Mar 2014 #164

How many years does a person have to be a member... one_voice Mar 2014 #170

Ignore and trash thread work great too. neverforget Mar 2014 #87

Who the hell worries about this shit? Deep13 Mar 2014 #90

No one is required to vote. ucrdem Mar 2014 #94

Another strict restriction? Like "guns?" Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #98

Define Dem-bashing. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #100

Uuum, give me a second here. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #114

Still whining about that? nt Logical Mar 2014 #118

The sad part. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #120

Not everyone worships Obama! Some are disappointed! Some.... Logical Mar 2014 #121

Yup. You own it! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #124

You are in the minority here! Isn't there some posts from..... Logical Mar 2014 #125

You'd be surprised. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #130

How am I in the minority on Democratic Underground!? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #132

Sorry. Anyone supporting the DNC platform on equal rights for every citizen IS in the minority here. freshwest Mar 2014 #146

Sad truth don't you think, freshwest? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #169

What Minority ? nt pkdu Mar 2014 #196

I am confused Andy823 Mar 2014 #227

I think that's about as good an example as there is. ucrdem Mar 2014 #129

Great Op ucrdem. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #137

wow, didn't know it went that far flamingdem Mar 2014 #237

if we can also add, "No advocating policies that would be condemned by everyone on DU if they were Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #102

Good one DC. you win the thread! kath Mar 2014 #143

that's gonna go right over their heads, Douglas Skittles Mar 2014 #178

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Mar 2014 #219

Might as well wish for and vote for whether it Cha Mar 2014 #116

Yeah this one might need a little retooling ucrdem Mar 2014 #127

It's a start! Like ACA.. in spite of all the liars trying to get rid of it.. Cha Mar 2014 #134

I love knowing who voted "great idea", not a shock! nt Logical Mar 2014 #117

I love knowing who voted "Epic Fail", not a shock! nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #122

Notice who is winning! The ones who realize the Democratic Party.... Logical Mar 2014 #123

You and your supporters are winning? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #126

Be a sheep! Fine with me. I will take Will over the poster you support any day! Logical Mar 2014 #128

Well as long as we're picking teams. . . ucrdem Mar 2014 #131

huh? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #135

The poor little lamb that was lost astray. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #140

I'd say "other" mvd Mar 2014 #136

Lots of people here bash Obama for signing free-trade agreement after free-trade agreement. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #139

Possibly the dumbest post I've read all week. Marr Mar 2014 #142

Add it to the TOS, and ban the fuckers that continually engage in it... SidDithers Mar 2014 #148

I thought you hailed from a village? TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #166

+1 we need a DU dog house flamingdem Mar 2014 #233

You mean like not using ODS, Putinista, firebagger, Obamabot and such cui bono Mar 2014 #149

I don't like the dichotomy gollygee Mar 2014 #152

How about something that defines what, exactly, a Democrat IS. djean111 Mar 2014 #153

Terrible idea. bigwillq Mar 2014 #155

I point out that the admins killed Meta for good reasons. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #156

But now the toothpaste fails to retreat back into the tube and it just is all over the place. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #190

Haha, I knew this is where you were heading whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #158

word. KG Mar 2014 #167

+1 Hissyspit Mar 2014 #171

Be honest. You want to get rid of anyone who criticizes Obama or Hillary. NT clg311 Mar 2014 #159

nooooo.....it is strictly Obama Skittles Mar 2014 #176

Nah, much better to have their impotent rage posted here, than to have it ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #160

LMAO Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #175

A lack of enthusiasm could be considered bashing. nt rrneck Mar 2014 #162

Perhaps. But "FOX-style Dem bashing" is something else. ucrdem Mar 2014 #172

Host duties are centered primarily on placement rather than content. rrneck Mar 2014 #192

Let's make it simple: they're centered on the SoP. ucrdem Mar 2014 #193

That's a distinction without a difference. rrneck Mar 2014 #198

The current GD SoP is 29 words; this would add 5. ucrdem Mar 2014 #200

You're wrong. rrneck Mar 2014 #201

The info I've posted is 100% accurate. Check the link. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #202

Um, yeah. rrneck Mar 2014 #209

Thank you. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #210

Everyone can see where that would head. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #173

I'll tell you where: no change whatsoever except GD hosts would have more guidance ucrdem Mar 2014 #174

all of DU would be like the BOG Skittles Mar 2014 #177

Fat chance. And this is soley a lock-leave matter, not a jury direction. ucrdem Mar 2014 #179

aw please Skittles Mar 2014 #182

Why would you doubt it? ucrdem Mar 2014 #183

Well it IS the people from the BOG pushing this. Rex Mar 2014 #180

well no shit Skittles Mar 2014 #181

Careful you are about to get an ODS red card! Rex Mar 2014 #184

It's not criticism that is the problem, it's the nasty, foul-mouthed name calling. MADem Mar 2014 #186

That's why I suggested "FOX-style Dem bashing," ucrdem Mar 2014 #187

Righteous indignation against the powers that be Trajan Mar 2014 #211

Dog whistling like a FOX star is not an essential form of protest. ucrdem Mar 2014 #215

You keep referring to FOX ... Trajan Mar 2014 #220

Well this poll is an epic failure. Rex Mar 2014 #221

Swearing like a fifteen year old at "authori-TEH" is not "righteous indignation" though. MADem Mar 2014 #222

Your interpretation is hardly definitive Trajan Mar 2014 #226

It's definitive enough for most major publications. MADem Mar 2014 #229

+1000 nt Andy823 Mar 2014 #231

Not only no, but FUCK NO, and please don't ask again. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #194

What you mean "WE", Kimosabe? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #199

ROFLMAO that list is like a who's who of socialist DU'ers LOL snooper2 Mar 2014 #203

What list? ucrdem Mar 2014 #204

stare at your OP for a bit and you'll figure it out :) snooper2 Mar 2014 #206

I didn't post any lists in the OP. ucrdem Mar 2014 #207

Just because some posters are literate, perceptive, intelligent, have superior deductive reasoning Zorra Mar 2014 #212

Modest, too. ucrdem Mar 2014 #213

heehee! Aww, did I hit a nerve? nt Zorra Mar 2014 #218

Us little people should not criticize Dems Teamster Jeff Mar 2014 #205

You can criticize Dems on DU. This is about something else. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #208

Are you whining about DU bro? L0oniX Mar 2014 #216

No. nt ucrdem Mar 2014 #217

Not just no--HELL no. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #228

Send the Doggie Whistlers to the Dog House flamingdem Mar 2014 #232

Or they just don't care. Andy823 Mar 2014 #235

Hmm wonder if they learned that from the Teaparty! flamingdem Mar 2014 #236

lol ucrdem Mar 2014 #238