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Thu Mar 27, 2014, 12:53 PM

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It's absolutely amazing to me . . . [View all] Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 OP

+1000 G_j Mar 2014 #1

link to Obama defending iraq war? spanone Mar 2014 #2

here is what I find Old Codger Mar 2014 #6

+1 Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #7

What did he get in return? TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #106

Or what he did not get. zeemike Mar 2014 #115

He didn't defend the Iraq war. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #9

i watched his speech. it didn't appear he was defending the war. he was comparing it to crimea. spanone Mar 2014 #11

Same here ... if you watched it, you get it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #17

Exactly, talk about spin treestar Mar 2014 #25

He was responding to criticism of the US from all over the globe for what the world is calling sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #108

It's sad that this place doesn't do nuance and context JaneyVee Mar 2014 #13

I always knew the right wing lived in a black and white world. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #18

And when the UN said NO 'we' invaded anyway. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #30

Actually, the UN said yes. jeff47 Mar 2014 #35

Thank you. nt redqueen Mar 2014 #57

no "hidden triggers" and no "automaticity" with respect to the use of force. questionseverything Mar 2014 #105

It didn't need "hidden triggers". jeff47 Mar 2014 #107

not according to the people that co sponsored it questionseverything Mar 2014 #135

Again, it did not explicitly forbid it. jeff47 Mar 2014 #142

when he said, "America sought to work within the international system," G_j Mar 2014 #10

Oh gawd, the taco trucks of mass destruction. Iggo Mar 2014 #20

And does that mean he supported the war, no. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #21

no he didn't, that's not the point. He misrepresented the facts. G_j Mar 2014 #34

The US did go to the international community ... right? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #49

then Powell was lied to G_j Mar 2014 #53

To believe that, one has to believe that Powell is an idiot. Iggo Mar 2014 #63

Here's what I think happened: WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #89

Compared to Russia and the Crimea treestar Mar 2014 #27

600,000 dead Iraqi civilians is the moral equivalent pscot Mar 2014 #140

that's the problem hfojvt Mar 2014 #76

You do know he ended the Iraq war, right? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #3

Exactly, we are supposed to treestar Mar 2014 #29

Maybe its a search for ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #50

Yes,when one fails treestar Mar 2014 #81

Technically, he stuck to the SOFA negotiated by Bush truebluegreen Mar 2014 #68

In another thread today ... I pointed out some here still tell that nonsense version. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #74

Oh facts, treestar Mar 2014 #82

And that Obama started it. nt JoePhilly Mar 2014 #84

"He called for it" so he gets the credit? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #87

Was it to a person? el_bryanto Mar 2014 #4

I'm curious, did you believe the lie about Yellow Cake? Rex Mar 2014 #5

I think it was mostly the testimony of Colin Powell. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #8

I think Powell fooled a lot of people, he was the only semi-legit person Rex Mar 2014 #12

He was never even semi-legit. noamnety Mar 2014 #48

I mean among the BFEE crowd. Rex Mar 2014 #73

But in that crowd of slime balls he seemed to be a paragon of credibility. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #120

Lots of regular Americans trusted what they heard on TV. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #14

Oh I remember sadly, a few people thought Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11. Rex Mar 2014 #33

I think the Dems in congress took a couple different paths ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #45

You let the media off too easily... freebrew Mar 2014 #54

And certainly, some parts of the media were complicit in pushing lies. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #67

Agreed...nt freebrew Mar 2014 #77

I agree. The media not only was complicit, they are complicit. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #122

Great post. Rex Mar 2014 #72

That is why it is such a crime that the Bush Administration didn't have to answer for their treason. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #121

Thank you. I remember disagreement here as well. redqueen Mar 2014 #58

I tend not to believe an administration that conspired to steal a presidential election. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #119

Yeah that's right I'm a moron. Jesus I'm stupid. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #125

I'm only saying most of us were highly suspicious of any Bush claims. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #134

Oh dear. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #15

I actually think that if he were HONEST Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #19

"People are tired of being lied to and they're tired of being spoken to as if they were stupid." woo me with science Mar 2014 #22

I'm with you LTH. I understand it (the path he took) but JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #32

All the POTUS had to do was say that BOTH were mistakes. Rex Mar 2014 #36

X 1000 ctsnowman Mar 2014 #128

Really? You're gonna talk about honesty? jeff47 Mar 2014 #37

Going to the UN did not make the war legal. morningfog Mar 2014 #127

Actually, it did. jeff47 Mar 2014 #143

No, you don't understand diplomacy. Ideologues don't do diplomacy. And your OP isn't honest KittyWampus Mar 2014 #47

If he wasn't going to condemn the war as he should have, he shouldn't LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #55

Couldn't Agree More tea and oranges Mar 2014 #62

Thank you! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #123

DU is thick with propaganda. woo me with science Mar 2014 #16

I just don't bother engaging them anymore Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #24

YUP ... this is at least the 3rd angry OP on this same non-event. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #26

+1 nt Zorra Mar 2014 #91

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #124

divide and conquer shanti Mar 2014 #136

It's absolutely amazing to me that people can't handle nuance. jeff47 Mar 2014 #23

This is the worst thing Obama has ever said, since that thing he said last week. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #28

The President's statement was incredibly disingenuous. Maedhros Mar 2014 #78

I am just in shock Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #31

It was not an honest mistake and Obama knows it. Kablooie Mar 2014 #38

They honestly fixed the facts. L0oniX Mar 2014 #44

+10,000...When cutting SS ballyhoo Mar 2014 #39

Obama's words Thespian2 Mar 2014 #40

if you're going to 'quote' the President you should quote him accurately. spanone Mar 2014 #43

The full quote doesn't pour gasoline on their outrage bonfire, which is why they don't ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #52

I can't rec this enough hueymahl Mar 2014 #41

Unbelievable twisted spin. Whisp Mar 2014 #42

Yes rudolph the red Mar 2014 #59

+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #60

What is really vomit inducing is some DU'ers inability to comprehend what Obama ACTUALLY said. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #46

The far right sees "black and white", the far left sees "white and black". JoePhilly Mar 2014 #64

It's the cult of personality Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #51

It's amazing to me that you post this bullshit. Atman Mar 2014 #56

... ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #61

Yes. LWolf Mar 2014 #65

sad truths n/t reddread Mar 2014 #99

What Obama really said LittleBlue Mar 2014 #66

"But a lot bloodier (so far)" [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #79

The collective memory-loss that has now transformed into knee-jerk defense... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #69

TO. A. PERSON. Not the first time, though. Octafish Mar 2014 #70

Politicians lie as part of their jobs RainDog Mar 2014 #71

k/r x100 840high Mar 2014 #75

The sheeple behavior truly is amazing... ReRe Mar 2014 #80

**************BULLSHIT ASS'D OP!! OBAMA IS NOT DEFENDING IRAQ WAR!!***************** uponit7771 Mar 2014 #83

and if you call him out on it, you are a "racist"! TheSarcastinator Mar 2014 #85

It is amazing to me that Obama, who opposed Progressive dog Mar 2014 #86

Some didn't join until November 5, 2005. rug Mar 2014 #88

You're more correct than you think. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2014 #93

That's a very insightful analysis. rug Mar 2014 #94

Pre-2005 this used to be full of activists enigmatic Mar 2014 #96

Yes, that is exactly how I see it. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2014 #98

Shills, trolls and dolts. morningfog Mar 2014 #129

and many of the first wave shanti Mar 2014 #137

du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #90

It makes the supporters of war crimes look as hideous as they are Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #92

fashionable conservative war abettors have made the peace sign the new swastika n/t reddread Mar 2014 #100

"the mother tongue is propaganda" bobduca Mar 2014 #110

"Ayyyyyeeeee .." 1000words Mar 2014 #95

I'm with you on what you said about those days. Cleita Mar 2014 #97

i think "they" get to all of them shanti Mar 2014 #138

I dunno. If it weren't for the illegal Bush administration who changed just enough Cleita Mar 2014 #139

They also defend chained CPI, drone murder, the NSA, free trade, you name it they defend it. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #101

+ a brazillion. thanks for the great post. kath Mar 2014 #102

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #103

President Obama is a lawyer and he used a legal explanation of his position Gothmog Mar 2014 #104

It's navigating without a moral compass. Thanks LTH..nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #109

The defenders of this are either: shills, trolls or fanboys. morningfog Mar 2014 #111

Ya common sense, not so much right now. All this rage. Rex Mar 2014 #112

It's not particularly amazing. JoeyT Mar 2014 #113

He did NOT defend the freaking Iraq War frazzled Mar 2014 #114

Bingo. Fearless Mar 2014 #116

K&R!!! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #117

The board has splinters now. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #118

He. Did. Not. we can do it Mar 2014 #126

I for one felt the Iraq invasion was an act of terror against Iraq... peace13 Mar 2014 #130

If President Obama is compromised, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #131

Yes...it is a river of tears for the loss of perfect. peace13 Mar 2014 #132

I see. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #133

K&R#155 a LIHOP kick n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2014 #141

I haven't seen a single post here defending the Iraq war. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #144

this member is busy defending it as "legal" questionseverything Mar 2014 #145