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treestar

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29. Exactly, we are supposed to

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 10:12 AM

Mar 2014

approve every Putin aggression because of Iraq?

That was the point President Obama was trying to get around.

Using it against him this way is just Republican ODS stuff.

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It's absolutely amazing to me . . . [View all] Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 OP

+1000 G_j Mar 2014 #1

link to Obama defending iraq war? spanone Mar 2014 #2

here is what I find Old Codger Mar 2014 #6

+1 Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #7

What did he get in return? TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #106

Or what he did not get. zeemike Mar 2014 #115

He didn't defend the Iraq war. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #9

i watched his speech. it didn't appear he was defending the war. he was comparing it to crimea. spanone Mar 2014 #11

Same here ... if you watched it, you get it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #17

Exactly, talk about spin treestar Mar 2014 #25

He was responding to criticism of the US from all over the globe for what the world is calling sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #108

It's sad that this place doesn't do nuance and context JaneyVee Mar 2014 #13

I always knew the right wing lived in a black and white world. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #18

And when the UN said NO 'we' invaded anyway. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #30

Actually, the UN said yes. jeff47 Mar 2014 #35

Thank you. nt redqueen Mar 2014 #57

no "hidden triggers" and no "automaticity" with respect to the use of force. questionseverything Mar 2014 #105

It didn't need "hidden triggers". jeff47 Mar 2014 #107

not according to the people that co sponsored it questionseverything Mar 2014 #135

Again, it did not explicitly forbid it. jeff47 Mar 2014 #142

when he said, "America sought to work within the international system," G_j Mar 2014 #10

Oh gawd, the taco trucks of mass destruction. Iggo Mar 2014 #20

And does that mean he supported the war, no. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #21

no he didn't, that's not the point. He misrepresented the facts. G_j Mar 2014 #34

The US did go to the international community ... right? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #49

then Powell was lied to G_j Mar 2014 #53

To believe that, one has to believe that Powell is an idiot. Iggo Mar 2014 #63

Here's what I think happened: WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #89

Compared to Russia and the Crimea treestar Mar 2014 #27

600,000 dead Iraqi civilians is the moral equivalent pscot Mar 2014 #140

that's the problem hfojvt Mar 2014 #76

You do know he ended the Iraq war, right? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #3

Exactly, we are supposed to treestar Mar 2014 #29

Maybe its a search for ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #50

Yes,when one fails treestar Mar 2014 #81

Technically, he stuck to the SOFA negotiated by Bush truebluegreen Mar 2014 #68

In another thread today ... I pointed out some here still tell that nonsense version. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #74

Oh facts, treestar Mar 2014 #82

And that Obama started it. nt JoePhilly Mar 2014 #84

"He called for it" so he gets the credit? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #87

Was it to a person? el_bryanto Mar 2014 #4

I'm curious, did you believe the lie about Yellow Cake? Rex Mar 2014 #5

I think it was mostly the testimony of Colin Powell. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #8

I think Powell fooled a lot of people, he was the only semi-legit person Rex Mar 2014 #12

He was never even semi-legit. noamnety Mar 2014 #48

I mean among the BFEE crowd. Rex Mar 2014 #73

But in that crowd of slime balls he seemed to be a paragon of credibility. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #120

Lots of regular Americans trusted what they heard on TV. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #14

Oh I remember sadly, a few people thought Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11. Rex Mar 2014 #33

I think the Dems in congress took a couple different paths ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #45

You let the media off too easily... freebrew Mar 2014 #54

And certainly, some parts of the media were complicit in pushing lies. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #67

Agreed...nt freebrew Mar 2014 #77

I agree. The media not only was complicit, they are complicit. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #122

Great post. Rex Mar 2014 #72

That is why it is such a crime that the Bush Administration didn't have to answer for their treason. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #121

Thank you. I remember disagreement here as well. redqueen Mar 2014 #58

I tend not to believe an administration that conspired to steal a presidential election. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #119

Yeah that's right I'm a moron. Jesus I'm stupid. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #125

I'm only saying most of us were highly suspicious of any Bush claims. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #134

Oh dear. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #15

I actually think that if he were HONEST Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #19

"People are tired of being lied to and they're tired of being spoken to as if they were stupid." woo me with science Mar 2014 #22

I'm with you LTH. I understand it (the path he took) but JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #32

All the POTUS had to do was say that BOTH were mistakes. Rex Mar 2014 #36

X 1000 ctsnowman Mar 2014 #128

Really? You're gonna talk about honesty? jeff47 Mar 2014 #37

Going to the UN did not make the war legal. morningfog Mar 2014 #127

Actually, it did. jeff47 Mar 2014 #143

No, you don't understand diplomacy. Ideologues don't do diplomacy. And your OP isn't honest KittyWampus Mar 2014 #47

If he wasn't going to condemn the war as he should have, he shouldn't LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #55

Couldn't Agree More tea and oranges Mar 2014 #62

Thank you! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #123

DU is thick with propaganda. woo me with science Mar 2014 #16

I just don't bother engaging them anymore Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #24

YUP ... this is at least the 3rd angry OP on this same non-event. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #26

+1 nt Zorra Mar 2014 #91

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #124

divide and conquer shanti Mar 2014 #136

It's absolutely amazing to me that people can't handle nuance. jeff47 Mar 2014 #23

This is the worst thing Obama has ever said, since that thing he said last week. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #28

The President's statement was incredibly disingenuous. Maedhros Mar 2014 #78

I am just in shock Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #31

It was not an honest mistake and Obama knows it. Kablooie Mar 2014 #38

They honestly fixed the facts. L0oniX Mar 2014 #44

+10,000...When cutting SS ballyhoo Mar 2014 #39

Obama's words Thespian2 Mar 2014 #40

if you're going to 'quote' the President you should quote him accurately. spanone Mar 2014 #43

The full quote doesn't pour gasoline on their outrage bonfire, which is why they don't ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #52

I can't rec this enough hueymahl Mar 2014 #41

Unbelievable twisted spin. Whisp Mar 2014 #42

Yes rudolph the red Mar 2014 #59

+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #60

What is really vomit inducing is some DU'ers inability to comprehend what Obama ACTUALLY said. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #46

The far right sees "black and white", the far left sees "white and black". JoePhilly Mar 2014 #64

It's the cult of personality Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #51

It's amazing to me that you post this bullshit. Atman Mar 2014 #56

... ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #61

Yes. LWolf Mar 2014 #65

sad truths n/t reddread Mar 2014 #99

What Obama really said LittleBlue Mar 2014 #66

"But a lot bloodier (so far)" [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #79

The collective memory-loss that has now transformed into knee-jerk defense... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #69

TO. A. PERSON. Not the first time, though. Octafish Mar 2014 #70

Politicians lie as part of their jobs RainDog Mar 2014 #71

k/r x100 840high Mar 2014 #75

The sheeple behavior truly is amazing... ReRe Mar 2014 #80

**************BULLSHIT ASS'D OP!! OBAMA IS NOT DEFENDING IRAQ WAR!!***************** uponit7771 Mar 2014 #83

and if you call him out on it, you are a "racist"! TheSarcastinator Mar 2014 #85

It is amazing to me that Obama, who opposed Progressive dog Mar 2014 #86

Some didn't join until November 5, 2005. rug Mar 2014 #88

You're more correct than you think. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2014 #93

That's a very insightful analysis. rug Mar 2014 #94

Pre-2005 this used to be full of activists enigmatic Mar 2014 #96

Yes, that is exactly how I see it. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2014 #98

Shills, trolls and dolts. morningfog Mar 2014 #129

and many of the first wave shanti Mar 2014 #137

du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #90

It makes the supporters of war crimes look as hideous as they are Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #92

fashionable conservative war abettors have made the peace sign the new swastika n/t reddread Mar 2014 #100

"the mother tongue is propaganda" bobduca Mar 2014 #110

"Ayyyyyeeeee .." 1000words Mar 2014 #95

I'm with you on what you said about those days. Cleita Mar 2014 #97

i think "they" get to all of them shanti Mar 2014 #138

I dunno. If it weren't for the illegal Bush administration who changed just enough Cleita Mar 2014 #139

They also defend chained CPI, drone murder, the NSA, free trade, you name it they defend it. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #101

+ a brazillion. thanks for the great post. kath Mar 2014 #102

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #103

President Obama is a lawyer and he used a legal explanation of his position Gothmog Mar 2014 #104

It's navigating without a moral compass. Thanks LTH..nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #109

The defenders of this are either: shills, trolls or fanboys. morningfog Mar 2014 #111

Ya common sense, not so much right now. All this rage. Rex Mar 2014 #112

It's not particularly amazing. JoeyT Mar 2014 #113

He did NOT defend the freaking Iraq War frazzled Mar 2014 #114

Bingo. Fearless Mar 2014 #116

K&R!!! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #117

The board has splinters now. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #118

He. Did. Not. we can do it Mar 2014 #126

I for one felt the Iraq invasion was an act of terror against Iraq... peace13 Mar 2014 #130

If President Obama is compromised, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #131

Yes...it is a river of tears for the loss of perfect. peace13 Mar 2014 #132

I see. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #133

K&R#155 a LIHOP kick n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2014 #141

I haven't seen a single post here defending the Iraq war. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #144

this member is busy defending it as "legal" questionseverything Mar 2014 #145