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ellisonz

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94. Were you hoping for flames?

Reply to Initech (Reply #55)

Sun Mar 25, 2012, 05:03 PM

Mar 2012

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Meet George Zimmerman: He Is the NRA [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 OP

Zimmerman, Loughner, McVeigh... All NRA Poster Boys. nt onehandle Mar 2012 #1

Depends on what you mean by 'poster boy' RZM Mar 2012 #3

Basically agree, but the NRA's actions have made it much easier for the Loughners and Zimmermans. Hoyt Mar 2012 #4

Maybe so RZM Mar 2012 #5

I would put it like this: caseymoz Mar 2012 #11

Yes, society becomes a bit more interesting when the people are given a bit of freedom. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #17

Freedom to carry a gun anywhere? That's not freedom. Hoyt Mar 2012 #19

Anyone who is fearful enough to believe they always need to carry a gun is not free. baldguy Mar 2012 #20

So people that live in high crime areas can never be free? hack89 Mar 2012 #21

Twin Lakes is a high crime area? baldguy Mar 2012 #22

So you were not talking about all CCW carriers, only one? hack89 Mar 2012 #23

Yes. Fearful and unarmed gets a lot fewer people slaughtered DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #42

Because criminals will never be able to get guns? hack89 Mar 2012 #51

I don't play games with gun worshipers. I respect gun owners DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #52

What do you think about gun grabbers that use the death of an innocent hack89 Mar 2012 #60

I don't like your choice of words, but I'll use them. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #112

Here is the issue I have with gun control hack89 Mar 2012 #113

FWIW Nevernose Mar 2012 #58

They like automatic weapons - can't buy those in an American gun shop. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #59

Well...there are a few gun shops where you can buy fully automatic weapons. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #62

exactly fascisthunter Mar 2012 #27

You call that "civilization"? Your definition of civilization is certainly a lot different than mine shraby Mar 2012 #32

Well, you're no fun here DonP Mar 2012 #6

The NRA Loves these money making icons. onehandle Mar 2012 #7

I don't base my opinions of the NRA RZM Mar 2012 #8

Sorry, I'm not privy to the NRA's inside numbers. onehandle Mar 2012 #13

I agree with the first part RZM Mar 2012 #39

You have just insinuated that all NRA members are like McVeigh. PavePusher Mar 2012 #98

Has Wayne given any speeches about this endorsement safeinOhio Mar 2012 #9

I don't know RZM Mar 2012 #10

What does that have to do with anything? Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #16

Wow, I was unaware of the National Reciprocity Act. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2012 #2

Good lord. No words. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #12

the world needs a villain and for the left many have choosen the NRA... belcffub Mar 2012 #14

The NRA is a right-wing thug organization, and support of them will be challenged here DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #45

I disagree belcffub Mar 2012 #57

The article says it correctly - it's no surprise it happened in Florida - a gun nut's paradise Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #15

Yet their violent crime rates have fallen every year but two in the last 20 years hack89 Mar 2012 #24

You're incorrect. There was a crime drop in the entire U.S. in 2011. Florida has nothing to do Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #25

You missed my point hack89 Mar 2012 #26

Again, the entire nation has become safer, but you're equating that to gun ownership and pro-murder Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #28

No I am not. hack89 Mar 2012 #31

You're now changing your argument again. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #33

No - you simply failed to understand it. No suprise there. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #34

Like talking to a brick wall. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #36

Questions. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #38

Democrat hack89 Mar 2012 #44

Ok. But you're all pro-gun. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #54

Nothing wrong with that - it is a enumerated Constitutional right after all. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #56

There is no 2nd amendment issue with respect to SYG murder laws. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #63

I agree there are no 2A issues with SYG. hack89 Mar 2012 #64

Oh, here it comes, the famous "DU Tru Blu Litmus Paper"... BiggJawn Mar 2012 #100

No proof guns had anything to do with it. Even cities without guns went down. Logical Mar 2012 #40

So the law did not lead to an increase? X_Digger Mar 2012 #41

I agree with that. Sorry, I did not read close enough! Thanks Digger! Logical Mar 2012 #43

So you agree that more guns did not create more gun violence? hack89 Mar 2012 #46

Yes I do. But no proof more guns reduce crime either. Logical Mar 2012 #48

Never said it did - the causes of crime are complex. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #50

The OP is wrong about the National Reciprocity Act. hack89 Mar 2012 #18

LOL! Amazing what gun-lovers will say to support their gun love. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #29

So show me where I am wrong. Show me how every state must follow Florida gun laws. hack89 Mar 2012 #30

Wrong about what? Wrong that Zimmerman shot this kid with a gun? Wrong that this Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #35

Did you even read the damn OP? Did you read what it said about the National Reciprocity Act? hack89 Mar 2012 #47

I view lack of gun control the same way I do this law. What's the difference? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #53

Yet every year fewer and fewer are murdered. Are the laws defective? nt hack89 Mar 2012 #61

INCORRECT. Your absence of logic is too much. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #65

But more guns and these laws have not led to more murders - right? hack89 Mar 2012 #66

The U.S. decrease in crime during 2011 (if you bothered to read the article) Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #67

Crime has steadily decreased for the past 20 years. hack89 Mar 2012 #68

Gun crimes have dropped with more guns being sold? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #70

Read the FBI annual crime reports. Listen to what Obama's DOJ says hack89 Mar 2012 #72

I am not saying guns led to lower crime hack89 Mar 2012 #69

Oh stop it. I've lived in countries where guns are not prevalent and felt infinitely safer because Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #71

You have never been safer in America hack89 Mar 2012 #73

Still not safe enough Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #74

I feel very safe. hack89 Mar 2012 #75

Good for you. Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #76

Really? You're talking to someone who has lived abroad. Meanwhile, you haven't. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #77

I was born overseas. Lived four years in Japan as an adult. hack89 Mar 2012 #78

Where were your parents born? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #79

One in America, one in Europe. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #80

So your father was American. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #81

Is that significant? He was a life long Democrat by the way. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #82

Sure. He was American, a military guy, he met someone abroad, married her Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #83

And you would be wrong. nt hack89 Mar 2012 #84

I doubt it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #85

Based on what? nt hack89 Mar 2012 #86

I'm pretty good at figuring people out. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #87

In other words you pulled it out of your butt. hack89 Mar 2012 #88

Not at all. I have you figured out. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #89

So then tell me hack89 Mar 2012 #90

Because you likely were born while he was in the military. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #91

And why is that significant? hack89 Mar 2012 #92

There's a mammoth difference between being born on a U.S. base, and living Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #97

And again a dodge. PavePusher Mar 2012 #103

When I was stationed in Japan for four years I never lived on base. hack89 Mar 2012 #104

The key word here is stationed. You did not move abroad to live there as a Japanese. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #107

So what. hack89 Mar 2012 #108

Dodging. Again. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #102

No one is claiming what you are insinuating. PavePusher Mar 2012 #101

Dodge. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #99

Where your fallacy is wrong? It's not even there yet. It's still in the fallacy stage. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #96

This reply is more incomprehensible then normal hack89 Mar 2012 #105

I've said all I'm going to say. You people have destroyed this country's safety Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #106

How do you explain a 20 year decline in gun violence? hack89 Mar 2012 #109

You've spent several days on here attempting to convince me that 1) gun crime rate has dropped - bs Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #110

So guns have created more crime yet crime is at historic lows? Strange logic there. hack89 Mar 2012 #111

Ain't it, though? The death toll from handguns continues to pile up, and yet nothing - NOTHING - apocalypsehow Mar 2012 #93

They don't care. And by the way, I like the quotation marks there. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2012 #95

Don't bother me with facts, son, I'm on a roll here! X_Digger Mar 2012 #49

I wouldn't be surprised if he posted at the Free Republic too LynneSin Mar 2012 #37

I said it before and I'll say it again: fuck the NRA. Initech Mar 2012 #55

Were you hoping for flames? ellisonz Mar 2012 #94