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HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
24. Well, hey, it's not like they didn't try before . . .
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:39 PM
Mar 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Business_Plot

Learning their lessons that deliberate takeover doesn't work, the financiers then relied on working a glacial inside game of Washington . . . and then purchasing the media. Starting with these two jokers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_memo#Powell_Memorandum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Weyrich

And then instituting THIS asshole as Treasury Secretary and Chief of Staff to start the Wealth Tax Slash:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Regan

Oh, and did I mention THIS little bill, which relaxed thrift limits and allowed financial piracy to run rampant in the 1980s (When Reagan signed it, he infamously said "all in all, I think we hit the jackpot&quot ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garn_-_St_Germain_Depository_Institutions_Act

Of course, Don Regan's "ahem" . . . "Boss", didn't help matters much with this previous action:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PATCO_strike#August_1981_strike

Michael Moore said that Reagan's firing of the PATCO strikers was the beginning of "America's downward slide", and the end of comfortable union jobs, with a middle-class salary, raises, and pensions. Moore stated that wages have remained stagnant for 30 years. He also blamed the AFL-CIO for telling their members to cross the PATCO picket lines.[12]

President Reagan's director of the United States Office of Personnel Management at the time, Donald J. Devine, argued:

"When the president said no...American business leaders were given a lesson in managerial leadership that they could not and did not ignore. Many private sector executives have told me that they were able to cut the fat from their organizations and adopt more competitive work practices because of what the government did in those days. I would not be surprised if these unseen effects of this private sector shakeout under the inspiration of the president were as profound in influencing the recovery that occurred as the formal economic and fiscal programs."

In a review of Joseph McCartin's book 2011, Collision Course: Ronald Reagan, The Air Traffic Controllers, and the Strike that Changed America in Review 31, Richard Sharpe claimed Reagan was "laying down a marker" for his presidency: "The strikers were often working class men and women who had achieved suburban middle class lives as air traffic controllers without having gone to college. Many were veterans of the US armed forces where they had learned their skills; their union had backed Reagan in his election campaign. Nevertheless, Reagan refused to back down. Several strikers were jailed; the union was fined and eventually made bankrupt. Only about 800 got their jobs back when Clinton lifted the ban on rehiring those who had struck. Many of the strikers were forced into poverty as a result of being blacklisted for employment."
Treason [View all] Scuba Mar 2014 OP
I call it domestic terrorism. underthematrix Mar 2014 #1
I call it economic terrorism. Initech Mar 2014 #19
. libodem Mar 2014 #2
And. pacerbluedrum1949 Mar 2014 #3
Yes. Oh yes nt riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #4
No. Because I know the meaning of the word "treason". (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #5
what Nye said Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #10
How about a Pustch? A Coup? Demeter Mar 2014 #12
Or global thermonuclear warfare? Regicide? Aggravated jaywalking? Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #13
The Constitution, not the dictionary, defines what is considered treason in the United States. onenote Mar 2014 #30
See my post # 35. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #42
No, the People define it. Demeter Mar 2014 #58
Yes. And no. onenote Mar 2014 #60
I don't know, destroying the govt is essentially war against the US, isnt't it: grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #22
"Destroying"? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #28
See my post # 35, please. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #39
"My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #66
Do you really believe that statement is anything other than bluster and hyperbole? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #70
THIS cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #26
+1 onenote Mar 2014 #29
See my post # 35. The Republicans repeatedly oppose the basic tenets of our Constitution. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #40
Oh please. I oppose the Second Amendment, so I guess I am also treasonous (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #44
If you oppose the Second Amendment, you need to try to amend the Constitution. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #49
... Zorra Mar 2014 #52
Well, .... yes. marble falls Mar 2014 #6
Hyperbole YarnAddict Mar 2014 #7
Not really. See my post # 35. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #41
I'd go Crimes Against Humanity. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #8
Why do people use all caps to make a point? BodieTown Mar 2014 #9
No. NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #11
Nope its not treason. cstanleytech Mar 2014 #14
It is rebellion. See my post # 35. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #38
robert is reight spanone Mar 2014 #15
The truly sad part about it is that there are enough idiots out there to vote for it world wide wally Mar 2014 #16
I have posted two threads here on this subject, the first in 2011 Samantha Mar 2014 #17
No... Gary 50 Mar 2014 #18
Social-Economic terrorism. Rex Mar 2014 #20
Actually, they are attempting to destroy our Constitution. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #37
K&R! One of those "certain big lies" is, "America has the best health care system in the world." Enthusiast Mar 2014 #21
No, I'd call it democracy producing results I don't like. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #23
See my post # 35. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #36
Well, hey, it's not like they didn't try before . . . HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #24
You should make this an OP. nt raccoon Mar 2014 #71
What word or phrase would be more descriptive than treason? Yet the administration indepat Mar 2014 #25
Not treason justanaverageguy Mar 2014 #27
The constant lies about PBO and the Dems in the senate... freebrew Mar 2014 #31
Techinically what the Republicans are doing is not treason. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #35
Against your government, not against your form of government. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #43
The issues I raised in my post are all set forth in the Constitution. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #48
Those are government policies, not THE government. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #45
Those are not government polices. Those are the principals set forth in the Constitution. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #47
Most of the principles you mentioned are derived from amendments and/or court decisions onenote Mar 2014 #53
But that is not what the conservatives are doing. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #68
It's not treason to pass a law that is struck down as unconstitutional onenote Mar 2014 #72
No. It isn't. But conducting a campaign that is wide in scope and opposes the basic JDPriestly Mar 2014 #73
All laws must be based on the constitution, otherwise they're unconstitutional Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #54
Public education is "promoting the general welfare" Demeter Mar 2014 #59
The fact that something is permissible under the constitution doesn't onenote Mar 2014 #61
I never suggested it wasn't permissable or unconstitutional or even undesirable Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #63
Yet Supreme Court decisions have required people to enroll their children in school ot JDPriestly Mar 2014 #67
I don't see that fact as contradicting anything I said. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #69
We need to stop using the term "terrorism" to describe "people we don't agree with." Maedhros Mar 2014 #32
I'm sure just as soon as the political tides move towards the GOP Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #46
YES orbitalman Mar 2014 #33
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #34
Politics as Usual seems to fit the bill. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #50
Recommend. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #51
I'd call it a reason JackInGreen Mar 2014 #55
Consider this polynomial Mar 2014 #56
I see that word and I think. fucking north. DiverDave Mar 2014 #57
Looks like most of the OP is covered.... idendoit Mar 2014 #62
Prof. Reich is correct Gothmog Mar 2014 #64
Or just "Evil?" Or is that word too well-worn at this point? DirkGently Mar 2014 #65
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