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In reply to the discussion: FACT SHEET: Ukraine-Related Sanctions (updated) [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)28. "when the plutocrats start losing money, then we'll know the EU and US are serious "
Ah, there you go. So there are sanctions that will impact Russia. What of the 21 people being targeted by the EU? Still, you're now on board with the piece I posted in comment 2.
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Sanction Traction
In order to get any traction with sanctions you have to bring the EU in and I think that will be a difficult task because of their dependence on Russian oil and gas resources, Gunitsky said.
The EUs bill for Russian oil and gas amounted to $156.5 billion in 2012, 38 times what the U.S. spent for Russian energy, according to the International Trade Centres Trade Map, a venture sponsored by the World Trade Organization and the United Nations.
Sanctions that crimp the lifestyles of Putins billionaire friends, such as visa restrictions and bank account freezes, might be more effective and easier for Europe to stomach than sanctions on Russian gas, Gunitsky said.
And energy sanctions may backfire if cutting off Russian shipments raises prices and triggers a backlash from angry European consumers.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-17/russia-s-160-billion-stick-hinders-crimean-sanctions.html
Sanction Traction
In order to get any traction with sanctions you have to bring the EU in and I think that will be a difficult task because of their dependence on Russian oil and gas resources, Gunitsky said.
The EUs bill for Russian oil and gas amounted to $156.5 billion in 2012, 38 times what the U.S. spent for Russian energy, according to the International Trade Centres Trade Map, a venture sponsored by the World Trade Organization and the United Nations.
Sanctions that crimp the lifestyles of Putins billionaire friends, such as visa restrictions and bank account freezes, might be more effective and easier for Europe to stomach than sanctions on Russian gas, Gunitsky said.
And energy sanctions may backfire if cutting off Russian shipments raises prices and triggers a backlash from angry European consumers.
- more -
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-17/russia-s-160-billion-stick-hinders-crimean-sanctions.html
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at some point people will stop believing him when he engages in tough talk.
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#3
targeting Putin's plutocratic buddies, or doing something of actual economic consequence
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#16
"when the plutocrats start losing money, then we'll know the EU and US are serious "
ProSense
Mar 2014
#28
I think Putin realizes now that the Europe and China don't have any stomach for
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#13
Russia's always going to be authoritarian. That's just how they roll there.
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#21
best we can do is what he hope for our own country, that its national self-esteem not
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#23
I get the impulse to avoid pissing the Russians off and being cautious, I also
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#36
Sanctioning the plutocrats won't work -- they have too many friends in the West.
FarCenter
Mar 2014
#18
It is the list of the top 10 Russian billionaires, i.e. the leading oligarchs.
FarCenter
Mar 2014
#44
Well, the sanctions could have included Puti, Medvedev, and other deputies. Also,
ChisolmTrailDem
Mar 2014
#35
The singling out of individuals seems really petty - and a little weird, imo.
reformist2
Mar 2014
#34
With Puti and Medvedev, etc, it would be less weak, but still weak. Anything less than a total
ChisolmTrailDem
Mar 2014
#40