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50. As a gay man and an atheist

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 12:19 AM

Mar 2014

I hope he recovers and lives a long long time. Why? Because I want him to see the world slipping further and further from his ideals, every second being further than the last. I want to see him ignored. I want to see him see the world that is accepting of LGBT people. I want him to see the US be a nation that encourages marriage equality. And most of all, I want him to see that hatred and bigotry do not win.

I'll happily stand as bulwark to his bullshit in the meantime.

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Regarding Phelps. [View all] MarianJack Mar 2014 OP

I don't wish suffering on him, and I don't think he will go to Hell The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2014 #1

having to be Fred Phelps was miserable enough, imo eShirl Mar 2014 #2

Suffering? No. Protest of this despicable person's funeral? Hell yeah. Lint Head Mar 2014 #3

I think a better protest would be a silent one with a rainbow flag or banner. Zero expressions of Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #13

For one to deny hate is to deny humanity. Lint Head Mar 2014 #28

And to embrace hate is to become a monster. Lancero Mar 2014 #67

There are gray areas of hate which is the Lint Head Mar 2014 #75

There is a diffrence between feeling hatred and embracing hatred... Lancero Mar 2014 #78

Good. No one is doing any of these things so there are no "monsters" on DU. Lint Head Mar 2014 #86

Well, then remember what Bette Davis said about speaking ill of the dead. calimary Mar 2014 #14

I hope he goes peacefully. Mojo Electro Mar 2014 #4

He created the monster that is now hurting him. That's punishment enough for his dying days.... Hekate Mar 2014 #5

Well... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #6

I don't frankly care what it does to HIM! MarianJack Mar 2014 #84

I understand what you are getting at. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #7

May I ask a personal question? (And totally understand if you don't answer.) Do you believe in God? Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #15

Agnostic. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #21

I'm an atheist and if I were to protest, I'd toss love back at him. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #24

That was good PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #31

Hugs. I really appreciate your lovely heartfelt response. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #35

To quote Clarence Darrow dflprincess Mar 2014 #8

I will read Fred's obituary with great pleasure. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2014 #12

For sure. dflprincess Mar 2014 #19

Mark Twain's quote is good. backscatter712 Mar 2014 #22

That's a very old premise, we're BETTER. No, we're not. We are all just human. n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #9

Perhaps you are not but I am. It was a very important part of my liberal upbringing. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #16

Thank you. No 840high Mar 2014 #29

Well, add me to your list of who you're better than. I can never be more than "all too human." n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #69

Well said.. thank you. Cha Mar 2014 #10

Love ya, I feel the same way. xoxox nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #11

The man deserves at least a little of the misery he helped dish out. No sympathy whatsoever. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #17

I don't want him to suffer, I just want him to be with his god as soon as possible. Autumn Mar 2014 #18

That's pretty much how I feel about it. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #20

God rest his soul maindawg Mar 2014 #23

according to Topeka Capital-Journal, he's in hospice eShirl Mar 2014 #25

In Buddhism, hell is not a place, it's a condition of life we experience. Someone as full of hatred DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #26

This man had to be bribed with radio airtime to keep him from protesting a 9-year-old's funeral jmowreader Mar 2014 #27

Sorry. I hope he is pain and suffers rpannier Mar 2014 #30

What you want him to go through won't effect HIM at all. MarianJack Mar 2014 #82

Fuck that guy. zappaman Mar 2014 #32

I hope he's suffering, both mentally and physically. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #33

You could have ... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #58

Why? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #60

I'm sorry I didn't make my point more clearly, as I ... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #62

For some, the ego wants/needs revenge. flvegan Mar 2014 #34

There is no better weapon to fight against hate, than compassion LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #36

Thank you. Yes. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #52

Our moment. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #37

I wish the rainbow-painted house across the street catrose Mar 2014 #38

Birth isn't easy... ReRe Mar 2014 #39

That... man... made a career out of hurting humans that were already grieving loss. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #40

"He'll never be held to account." But he is. babylonsister Mar 2014 #59

I have a regret. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #72

I do not wish suffering on anyone awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #41

He won't be missed. deafskeptic Mar 2014 #42

If that were only true. . pipoman Mar 2014 #47

It isn't just what he did to strangers pipoman Mar 2014 #43

It took some courage to post this thread Samantha Mar 2014 #44

Thank you, Samantha! MarianJack Mar 2014 #81

Sorry there is no Hell itsrobert Mar 2014 #45

Thank you. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #46

George got that right! mountain grammy Mar 2014 #54

Yes he did. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #68

Was Fred Phelps really worth the time and energy it took you closeupready Mar 2014 #48

If only all of the people who want everyone to send love to Phelps Jamastiene Mar 2014 #65

Oh please. Daemonaquila Mar 2014 #49

As a gay man and an atheist Fearless Mar 2014 #50

Perfect! babylonsister Mar 2014 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author DinahMoeHum Mar 2014 #51

We like to think we're better than they are... Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #55

"Addicted to Hate" - link tomm2thumbs Mar 2014 #56

I tried to read that but... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #61

Brilliant idea. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #66

I want to try to be the better man. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #57

In all honesty, to me, whether he lives or dies, is a moot point. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #63

A thousand times "YES!!!" Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #64

there is no heaven or hell, so the the only suffering the asshole would get for his crimes snooper2 Mar 2014 #70

Maybe his family will start to move on, or sunder into part that does, and does not move on. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #73

You're, of course, right Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #71

I would be dishonest to say I don't want him to suffer Marrah_G Mar 2014 #74

Some of us don't believe in Hell. Apparently. you do, which gives you the easy out stopbush Mar 2014 #76

What does the hatred and bile that so many have for Phelps do to HIM? MarianJack Mar 2014 #80

For some people, venting their anger keeps them from having ulcers. stopbush Mar 2014 #83

Oh please! MarianJack Mar 2014 #85

No finger wagging? Here's your post: stopbush Mar 2014 #87

Baloney! MarianJack Mar 2014 #88

The greatest curse I could wish upon him Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #77

I believe that anyone who carries as much ignorance and hate in their consciousness Zorra Mar 2014 #79