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Excellent editorial malaise Mar 2014 #1
Excellent, but with one glaring problem. MattSh Mar 2014 #122
I'm really disappointed by Obama and Kerry's overblown rhetoric. It's been so off the mark. reformist2 Mar 2014 #2
Do you have any criticisms of Russia's handling of this? Nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #3
it's not surprising, given the circumstances magical thyme Mar 2014 #7
One could point out that given Russia's aggression towards geek tragedy Mar 2014 #10
NATO is an expansionist, explicitly anti-Russian military empire cprise Mar 2014 #21
I disagree. But let's explore that. The invasion of Crimea has strengthened NATO and stevenleser Mar 2014 #33
The other (ex)Warsaw pact countries aren't so close to Moscow cprise Mar 2014 #53
To varying degrees, but they certainly wont be close now, will they? Even Serbia is embarrassed stevenleser Mar 2014 #66
Probably not a big deal to Russians. Serbia was never part of Russia, nor USSR. cprise Mar 2014 #78
It's a big deal to Russia. Serbian and Russian nationalists have historically been very close. stevenleser Mar 2014 #88
NATO seems like an awfully good deal to countries geek tragedy Mar 2014 #36
If they imagine themselves like Poland, with a military economic boost. cprise Mar 2014 #62
If that meant that the days of Russia's bullying were over, I doubt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #68
That doesn't mean they are "left alone" by everyone cprise Mar 2014 #80
Greece's problems are largely home grown. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #83
Or Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Iceland, etc. cprise Mar 2014 #99
unlike the US, who consistently shows aggression toward our "non next-door neighbors" magical thyme Mar 2014 #131
I don't disagree. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #132
^This! 1000+! 2banon Mar 2014 #109
I am gratefull for their restraint, considering the recent example we have set on the world stage. T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #91
Ok, so your only objection was that Russia didn't meddle geek tragedy Mar 2014 #93
I'm sorry, but I think you responded to the wrong post. T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #95
Nope. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #96
Right T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #102
Yes, you're essentially a partisan on Russia's side, with the only objection geek tragedy Mar 2014 #104
Actually T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #105
Your mission here is obviously to troll DUers with insinuation and name-calling cprise Mar 2014 #135
Shots fired by Russia: muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #123
Sounds like an isolated incident (OSCE)... and Ukranian military cprise Mar 2014 #136
It was not a border muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #146
That was *after* murderous insurgents took over the govt cprise Mar 2014 #147
I agree. I find their "tough talk" all rather embarrassing. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #5
yep. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #11
The editorial states ProSense Mar 2014 #13
From the same paragraph: scarletwoman Mar 2014 #17
Like I said, ProSense Mar 2014 #19
So, in a nutshell: hypocrites don't give a flying fuck about the blatancy of their hypocrisy. nt delrem Mar 2014 #23
Yes, ProSense Mar 2014 #26
I do believe that today's referendum was hugely, 80+%, in favour of a certain outcome. delrem Mar 2014 #31
Sure ProSense Mar 2014 #35
ah. I see. Putin forced the vote at gunpoint. delrem Mar 2014 #40
No, ProSense Mar 2014 #48
OK, I'll try to bring a little sense to this. delrem Mar 2014 #77
By posting nonsense? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #79
Its more like schizophrenia than taboo. n/t cprise Mar 2014 #117
I think that it's a fully conscious taboo. delrem Mar 2014 #120
"Why would anyone want to be on the side of justifying an illegal invasion? " Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #57
You ask her. ProSense Mar 2014 #60
Depends on whether one considers the "regime change" legal cprise Mar 2014 #90
Oh, they're all about comdemning President Obama and PUmping up Putin.. Cha Mar 2014 #25
Pointing out that Putin is protecting his own interests is merely a fact,not a value judgement. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #34
"Putin justifies the invasion as necessary to protect Russian citizens...but this is a fig leaf." ProSense Mar 2014 #51
The real reason IS protecting Russia's interests. And Russia most certainly deemed it necessary. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #69
"World powers will always find excuses for their actions, why should Russia be any different?" ProSense Mar 2014 #73
Oh for cripessakes! I said "protecting Russian citizens" was an excuse. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #89
None of it justifies Putin's illegal invasion. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #97
I was never trying to justify it in the 1st place, only pointing out why Putin would justify it. nt scarletwoman Mar 2014 #103
Everyone knows why Putin would "justify it" ProSense Mar 2014 #106
Really? Pointing out that Black Sea access is important to Russia is "pushing his propaganda"? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #110
+10000 tsuki Mar 2014 #112
Is "pointing out that Black Sea access is important to Russia" justification for the invasion? ProSense Mar 2014 #127
+1000 cprise Mar 2014 #101
WTH? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #107
FYI cprise Mar 2014 #115
Yes, how touching.. a dictator protecting his own aggressive interests. Cha Mar 2014 #64
C'mon, Cha. I believe you're a good-hearted person. Why are you pulling this shit? scarletwoman Mar 2014 #100
Don't forget Putin is stopping the next Hitler. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #133
Readout of the President's Call with Putin.. Cha Mar 2014 #28
Of course nothing Putin said is reported. former9thward Mar 2014 #41
It was a message left on Putin's voicemail. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #47
Well, he went ahead and brought up other recent, sucessful independent referendums, which isn't fair T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #121
non violent Duckhunter935 Mar 2014 #126
And it's really that simple malaise Mar 2014 #16
Great point! scarletwoman Mar 2014 #20
The Falklands have never been part of Argentina which geek tragedy Mar 2014 #38
Nice you take the position of the British monarchy. former9thward Mar 2014 #42
No, I take the position of the rest of the planet. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #46
Okay then! Since Crimea WAS, at one time, a part of Russia, then you shouldn't have any objections scarletwoman Mar 2014 #50
Taking back by force, no. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #56
Your definition of the "rest of the planet" is rather limited. former9thward Mar 2014 #61
The rightwing dictatorships in Latin America backed up the military geek tragedy Mar 2014 #70
And you are backing a right wing government in Ukraine, today. former9thward Mar 2014 #72
Rightwing? It's an interim government until May and contains geek tragedy Mar 2014 #75
Ha, still no authorities in US have so much as slapped the wrist cprise Mar 2014 #114
No one here is scared of Putin as a threat to us. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #116
I do care that a lot of hysteria is distracting people cprise Mar 2014 #118
"The CIA has put the US Senate under surveillance" geek tragedy Mar 2014 #119
"those who defend rt.com have zero standing" cprise Mar 2014 #144
+1. It's embarrassing to see Obama try and lecture about territorial borders. Uh, Mr. President, quinnox Mar 2014 #8
+1 840high Mar 2014 #74
Yes, it's all about President Obama and SOS Kerry.. Nothing about Poor Putin's Aggression? Cha Mar 2014 #22
Great editorial! Many good points made - people should go read the whole thing. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #4
Thanks for this-I think we're doing okay so far, but babylonsister Mar 2014 #6
Interesting ProSense Mar 2014 #9
"Crimea referendum are illegal" zeemike Mar 2014 #12
Spare me. The editorial made that point. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #14
No. Igel Mar 2014 #18
Your knowledge of what is happening in the Crimea referendum is remarkable. zeemike Mar 2014 #27
So suddenly parlaiment votes Yanukovych out of office while armed insurgents cprise Mar 2014 #29
Right, Putin cares about democracy and self-determination. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #30
Well pardon me. zeemike Mar 2014 #39
Well, those who side with Putin, and Assad, and Gaddhafi etc when they're geek tragedy Mar 2014 #43
When I criticize Obama it is for what he does or does not do. zeemike Mar 2014 #59
There are people who NEVER side with the US if it's in a dispute geek tragedy Mar 2014 #63
Well perhaps that is because they don't think we should be having zeemike Mar 2014 #76
Sure, that's called isolationism. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #81
And what nation is against us? zeemike Mar 2014 #86
As I said, what you advocate is isolationism. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #87
And under yours we were wrong not to invade Syria. zeemike Mar 2014 #92
That is binary thinking. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #94
Well glad you reject binary thinking. zeemike Mar 2014 #130
Oh spare me already. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #45
Well I believe in that saying zeemike Mar 2014 #67
Iraq and Afghanistan were the last guy. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #71
Well that is why we always have to look forward zeemike Mar 2014 #84
You've got to be joking. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #124
Well this is not a conflict between Obama and Putin. zeemike Mar 2014 #128
Wait, the Russian language is illegal in Ukraine now? NuclearDem Mar 2014 #129
Right.. Puppets for Putin are getting more and more bizarre.. Cha Mar 2014 #44
Cool, that's my alma mater davidpdx Mar 2014 #125
well, much of that has been obvious from the beginning stupidicus Mar 2014 #15
Rove Claims GWB Sent 'Strong Message' To Putin After Georgia Invasion - lol T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #24
“Russia – the only country in the world, capable of transforming the U.S. into radioactive ash" stevenleser Mar 2014 #32
This Pity for Putin Party is bizarre, Steven.. The lengths some will Cha Mar 2014 #49
I don't see this editorial is scolding anyone other than Republican neo-cons ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #52
Anyone who saber-rattles is dumb, but the focus should be on Russia and their invasion. Not the stevenleser Mar 2014 #65
You would think.. the USA's response is commensurate to Putin's Invasion. Cha Mar 2014 #85
You know, the OP simply posted an editorial from The Nation and said he agreed with it. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #54
^This! 1000+! 2banon Mar 2014 #137
The "USA into RadioActive Dust"guy was recently chosen by Putin to lead an official news agency.. Cha Mar 2014 #58
Why do you give any weight of importance to that flame bating b.s.? 2banon Mar 2014 #138
See Cha's #58 above. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #139
no can see 2banon Mar 2014 #140
Well, that person shared an important piece of information. The media person who said this was stevenleser Mar 2014 #141
Under the circumstances, that kind of thing is predictable and doesn't concern me. 2banon Mar 2014 #142
There is very little chest thumping by anyone here. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #143
Okay.. Cha Mar 2014 #37
Because right-wing terrorists make for a good voting environment. n/t cprise Mar 2014 #145
wow, happy to rec this.... mike_c Mar 2014 #55
Do you agree that Putin's actions were a "clear violation of international law"? ProSense Mar 2014 #82
But..but...Looking Tough and screaming Bogeyman is ever so much easier. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #98
K&R'd 2banon Mar 2014 #108
Time to mind our own business and stay out of their clusterfuck jsr Mar 2014 #111
Yes, when a child is attacked by bullies, it's best to just walk away. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #134
Always remember that when it comes to foreign policy... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #113
Excellent. woo me with science Mar 2014 #148
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