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NutmegYankee

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70. The cockpit isn't seperately pressurized.

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:19 PM

Mar 2014

There have been cases where the pilots didn't realize they were not getting oxygen and passed out. They have to know to use the masks.

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Is the missing aircraft on land [View all] malaise Mar 2014 OP

could be. it's so tragic for the families...i cannot even imagine. spanone Mar 2014 #1

Seriously malaise Mar 2014 #2

A crash is horrible, and this is far worse. I also felt sorry for those dialing cell phones RKP5637 Mar 2014 #26

Wouldn't a fire, or at least smoke rocktivity Mar 2014 #3

May have run out of fuel by then malaise Mar 2014 #4

It ran out of fuel one hour into a five-hour flight? rocktivity Mar 2014 #21

Who knows - maybe they did dump fuel malaise Mar 2014 #27

Then they also would have left a MayDay call. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #54

True - this one is weird n/t malaise Mar 2014 #56

Here's what was left after the Value Jet crash in a swamp Fumesucker Mar 2014 #41

I remember that CatWoman Mar 2014 #43

Yeah, they didn't know about the gators, I assure you. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #57

they had to station guys with rifles around the wreckage site Skittles Mar 2014 #66

Yes, but the NTSB guys were alive. Nobody on that godforsaken plane was, post-impact. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #72

It was found, though. There's the difference (so far). WinkyDink Mar 2014 #55

They had a pretty good idea where the Value Jet crash site was Fumesucker Mar 2014 #59

Also it was a much smaller plane... Agschmid Mar 2014 #64

When I heard where it crashed, Are_grits_groceries Mar 2014 #75

I just came up with an interesting theory all on my own... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #5

But it would not veer left malaise Mar 2014 #7

Maybe the pilot's knee briefly hit the steering wheel as he passed out Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #10

It's five days because it crashed five days ago. longship Mar 2014 #17

Ya.....most likely the plane was in trouble and crashed somewhere around Indonesia/Malaysia Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #20

Still, you're good at DUing. longship Mar 2014 #22

I think at this point, that is plausible. A bit more plausible than the madinmaryland Mar 2014 #30

Loss of cabin pressure would not cause you to pass out-at least not instantly Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #48

Coupla points jberryhill Mar 2014 #51

Wouldn't satellite imagery pick that up? 30cal Mar 2014 #11

Don't think so... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #15

That's what I don't get, I thought all air traffic was tracked rather carefully? Then, the RKP5637 Mar 2014 #32

Transponders can be turned off. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #39

Thanks for the info.! RKP5637 Mar 2014 #40

Also, it is SOP to turn off transponder upon landing. longship Mar 2014 #63

Ahem! Fuel? longship Mar 2014 #13

Why do they keep brining up the homing beacon on the black box? 30cal Mar 2014 #18

Yep, my thoughts too. I had always heard transponders are pretty much indestructible and RKP5637 Mar 2014 #34

Transponders aren't the "black boxes." WinkyDink Mar 2014 #60

Thanks!!! RKP5637 Mar 2014 #67

See Reply #39, interesting info. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #42

So you just prefer to think there is no such word as "speculation"? WinkyDink Mar 2014 #58

The cockpit has oxygen. former9thward Mar 2014 #16

Oh Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #23

The cockpit isn't seperately pressurized. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #70

No, there have been incidents that incapacitated the crew. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #31

It would be detected by a radar station somewhere (nt) question everything Mar 2014 #33

That happened to the golfer Payne Stewart. edbermac Mar 2014 #69

Who knows? longship Mar 2014 #6

No clue quinnox Mar 2014 #8

I can't wait to see what happened here malaise Mar 2014 #12

My guess is a landing on a too-short airstrip Warpy Mar 2014 #9

I'm thinking it went too high and is floating in space. penultimate Mar 2014 #14

As long as they don't run out of pre-moistened towelettes for the passenger's comfort. longship Mar 2014 #19

I'm thinking it's going to Mars. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #61

Let's see...Amelia Earhart has been missing since 1937 mnhtnbb Mar 2014 #24

LOST blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #25

Unless I'm mistaken, "Malacca" is very similar to the Greek slang word for "asshole" Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #28

had eniugh fuel for 3000 miles mainer Mar 2014 #29

Anyone remeber this movie? politicman Mar 2014 #35

The Langoliers penultimate Mar 2014 #36

Ah, that's it, had the wrong King story. n/t Liberal In Texas Mar 2014 #38

thanks. politicman Mar 2014 #45

thanks. politicman Mar 2014 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Liberal In Texas Mar 2014 #37

Yep, and it was great, was extremely well done and certainly anxiety provoking! I loved the RKP5637 Mar 2014 #44

... or the Twilight Zone eppy Myrina Mar 2014 #46

SPOILER ALERT lapislzi Mar 2014 #77

whatever happened had to be very sudden and conpletely done/over in seconds Rene Mar 2014 #49

at that speed, would be like hitting concrete politicman Mar 2014 #50

From 35,000 feet the plane would have broken like an egg. We've no wreckage. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #62

At this point, I am guessing the Indian Ocean. oldandhappy Mar 2014 #52

Why isn't anyone looking in the Bermuda Triangle? ..nt TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #53

The Smoke Monsters have clouded everyone's mind... africanadian Mar 2014 #65

If the cell phones are 840high Mar 2014 #68

The cell phones are not working jberryhill Mar 2014 #71

I just watched the update press conference from malaise Mar 2014 #73

You may be basing that on what happens in the US dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #74

Here is a link to an article Are_grits_groceries Mar 2014 #76

Thanks. 840high Mar 2014 #78

Yes Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #79