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77. Fucking Cold War

Reply to ErikJ (Original post)

Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:52 PM

Mar 2014

We needed to leave well enough alone in that country decades before we invaded it.

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Women in Kabul, Afghanistan 1972 and now. [View all] ErikJ Mar 2014 OP

Amazing pictures. The contrast is unreal. I found another link. madfloridian Mar 2014 #1

um, no. Afghanistan was controlled by the Taliban at that time cali Mar 2014 #3

Uh, here are two links that show time frame. madfloridian Mar 2014 #5

Your links are referencing the 50s, 60s and 70s. PRE TALIBAN cali Mar 2014 #8

My point is how they are dressed today. madfloridian Mar 2014 #35

You said this: cali Mar 2014 #38

Whoa, women of course are worse under Taliban rule. madfloridian Mar 2014 #51

Again, you said this cali Mar 2014 #55

Read that paragraph of mine again. madfloridian Mar 2014 #63

He meant the POSTS were pre-invasion. Not the pictures. The pictures were from before. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #67

You might be thinking of Iraq before the invasion in 2003. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #11

My claim was that there were posts here at time of invasion. Having trouble why I am called wrong. madfloridian Mar 2014 #29

I think you were probably thinking of Iraq as it was a secular country CJCRANE Mar 2014 #34

because that wasn't your claim and because you are confusing Iraq and Afghanistan cali Mar 2014 #50

"Pre-War" here refers to the Afghan Civil War and the Russian intervention therein Scootaloo Mar 2014 #20

Sadly, a fact the was lost on much of this thread etherealtruth Mar 2014 #22

Not what I said. We have been there since 2003...look how they dress now. madfloridian Mar 2014 #36

It read like you were saying it was a consequence of the US' 2002 invasion Scootaloo Mar 2014 #39

I wasn't. Thank you for understanding. Neither was the OP. madfloridian Mar 2014 #45

and they were even more restricted by the Taliban cali Mar 2014 #53

Perhaps you should read what the women themselves have to say about their situation. They have sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #81

There were no women dressed as professionals after the 1990s. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #30

Right. As in none. zero. cali Mar 2014 #56

This was before the Russian invasion that we helped WhiteTara Mar 2014 #78

You are looking for DU limks posted pre-invasion of past times? uppityperson Mar 2014 #91

Although not as fast... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #2

no, it's not. cali Mar 2014 #4

Reproductive rights are incredibly significant. And the TRAP laws are funded by the religious right. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #9

didn't say they weren't, but the trends are clear cali Mar 2014 #15

Yes but religious anti-choicers are winning that one with secular arguments... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #19

yeah, well, the fucking asterisk of *except reproductive rights doesn't cut it for me. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #23

I know it's fucking huge. and you know that I've said here that it's of major importance cali Mar 2014 #32

I'm not trying to diminish the importance of reproductive rights Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #33

Half of the politicians in this country... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author Skip Intro Mar 2014 #42

Kabul, 1972. That was before forty years of imperialist war. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #6

yep. cali Mar 2014 #10

Is today one of the days where Western values are good? mathematic Mar 2014 #7

That depends. Is President Obama involved? nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #12

Yeah etherealtruth Mar 2014 #17

today is the day where we ackowledge historical reality cali Mar 2014 #13

Funny how that "clash of civilizations" crap keeps popping up Scootaloo Mar 2014 #44

What's your opinion? Do you prefer religious law or secular law? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #14

Cultural appropriation has nothing to do with this and women's rights aren't a western value... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #24

The Taliban hasn't been in power in Kabul for more than a decade. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #59

The Taliban is the reason you see the number of women wearing them today that you do... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #71

When "Western values" dovetail with human rights for all people, they're good. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #80

You cannot support Women's Rights and support War! That is a perfect demonstration sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #16

What about WWII and the jewish men and women who were liberated? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #18

Are you asking me if I supported Hitler's war machine? Not sure what was unclear in my comment sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #25

There are usually two sides to a war. In WWII it was Hitler vs FDR/Churchill etc. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #27

What is a good reason for a country to go to war? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #48

Sure, if you're willing to make an indefinite commitment... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #41

You are speaking of the Soviet invasion .... etherealtruth Mar 2014 #21

The neocons claimed to be spreading "liberal democracy" CJCRANE Mar 2014 #26

Hope springs eternal etherealtruth Mar 2014 #28

I thought my comment was clear. If I had been a citizen of the Soviet Union, or since someone else sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #31

It was the seeming conflation of the US invasion and the rapid decline of women's rights etherealtruth Mar 2014 #37

The OP only had 2 pics. It implied nothing like that at all. madfloridian Mar 2014 #43

Many readers understood your posts and those of Sabrina's etherealtruth Mar 2014 #54

Isn't it true the Taliban went out of power in 2001. Regrouped in Pakistan? madfloridian Mar 2014 #61

No one (or at least not me) is asking you to defend anything etherealtruth Mar 2014 #64

And many people did understand it. As for how Bush's invasion of Afghanistan affected women there sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #90

I follow the plight of women all over the world. We haven't invaded the Congo yet I know for a fact sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #70

+1000000000000000000000 nt. polly7 Mar 2014 #72

The point being Token Republican Mar 2014 #69

Historical correction Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52

You are very correct about the mujihadeen and the Taliban etherealtruth Mar 2014 #57

The consequences of religion. nt valerief Mar 2014 #40

The consequences of a particular religion. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #47

Have you paid attention to Texas recently? nt valerief Mar 2014 #49

What, that place where women aren't forced to cover their faces? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #76

Texas--Where they can't get legal abortions. nt valerief Mar 2014 #79

Really? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #92

A particular brand of religion: Fundamentalism. nt CJCRANE Mar 2014 #62

The Taliban ruined Afghanistan... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #46

huh? Afghanistan was a fucking ruin before the Taliban came to power cali Mar 2014 #58

You're right. I meant more the Afghan Mujahideen. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #66

Things have regressed for women in Libya too... bvar22 Mar 2014 #60

Same thing for the women of Iraq ... who used to have something we still don't have here, equal pay sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #82

Reagan's Freedom fighters! The Taliban! MysticHuman Mar 2014 #65

Wow jamzrockz Mar 2014 #68

Some Iranain neighbors showed me some pictures when I was a kid Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #74

The late ConsAre Liars traveled in Afghanistan extensively in the late '60s/early '70s Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #75

I remember his posts on Afghanistan, they were a wonderful resource for the history of that country sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #83

It was one of the more inexplicable bannings. Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #84

I found his archived journal. madfloridian Mar 2014 #85

I wondered why he wasn't posting every once in a while, but thought he was probably sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #88

That journal of his is a treasure, Blue_In_AK. So many good posts. madfloridian Mar 2014 #86

He was one of my best friends here. Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #87

Fucking Cold War get the red out Mar 2014 #77

That's not exactly true Separation Mar 2014 #89

Interesting- but one contestant killed for showing her hair. ErikJ Mar 2014 #93