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Recursion

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29. You could well be right
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:02 PM
Mar 2014

My own guess is that he will effect a "partition" of sorts (probably under the "autonomous region" rubric/fig leaf that has become so popular recently), withdraw, and then graciously offer to have other nations make up the multinational force that monitors it after the fact, and more or less get away with it.

What will Putin do? [View all] arely staircase Mar 2014 OP
Putin is evil and will take over the eastern part of the nation. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #1
I think that is what he is laying the groundwork to do. arely staircase Mar 2014 #2
Putin is defending Russia's interests. That's his job. His fleet is there. Recursion Mar 2014 #8
Invading another nation is not acceptable. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #9
And yet it happens all the time, and will keep happening Recursion Mar 2014 #13
Well my understanding was that the Crimea had some autonomous powers. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #15
Yeah, and a mechanized division or two will make sure they get more Recursion Mar 2014 #21
I am still against it. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #36
OT: can you remind me what your avatar heraldry is? Recursion Mar 2014 #38
The seal of The Episcopal Church. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #40
Laying the groundwork AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #3
Other - don't know, and don't care quinnox Mar 2014 #4
Get John Kerry to vote for an invasion? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #5
what does that even mean? nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #7
Google "John Kerry IWR vote" for precedent. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #12
so you think he will now support russia invading Ukraine? arely staircase Mar 2014 #14
Well, he was very..how should I put it..flexible?..about supporting Bush's war. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #16
ah, two wrongs make a right arely staircase Mar 2014 #18
So, we should "intervene" to stop their "intervention". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #22
ah, strawman now arely staircase Mar 2014 #24
Should we intervene? That's a question. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #26
We shouldn't intervene militarily even if Putin invades all of Ukraine. arely staircase Mar 2014 #31
I say the same thing I said about Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #35
Iraq did not "intervene" in Kuwait. Iraq invaded and occupied Kuwait. The original mission Desert okaawhatever Mar 2014 #50
So, Bush was right? And, how did that intervention work out in Iraq? Or, Afghanistan? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #52
actually the first gulf war worked out quite well for the united states nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #56
I doubt that is his intent. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #11
Win, given his track record Recursion Mar 2014 #6
what wins does he really have, though? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #10
well he did whip those pussy riot women and lock up some greenpeace guys arely staircase Mar 2014 #17
I was thinking of Ossetia Recursion Mar 2014 #23
Economic sanctions are gonna happen. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #25
You could well be right Recursion Mar 2014 #29
Note what he would have lost, though--independent Ukraine itself would come firmly geek tragedy Mar 2014 #32
Of course, there's the argument that the west will be inheriting and propping up TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #48
the EU's loss is not necessarily his gain, and vice versa nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #49
We're still keeping him busy there (Syria), us and Saudis and Qatar. I'm sure he TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #43
Now fire up Google Maps, and complete the triangle Recursion Mar 2014 #44
He ain't giving up that port and Europe is not going to stop buying his oil. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #27
He's obviously decided his least worst option is to seize Crimea. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #28
True, but they aren't going to stop buying that oil other than some symbolic statement TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #59
The Saudis have a much longer record of winning than the Iranians do. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #60
True, no help to us though and not indicative of the future. There is no hand here, we all know it. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #61
Big picture: Is Russia expanding its influence, or is it contracting? TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #45
Oddly enough I just did an OP on that... Recursion Mar 2014 #47
The level of propaganda stirring up fears of anti-Russia activity won't let him stop at Crimea. eom. Bad Thoughts Mar 2014 #19
If Crimea goes well, then the oblasts along the Sea of Azov and the Odessa oblast are next. FarCenter Mar 2014 #20
...and why should anyone in the US give a shit? tularetom Mar 2014 #30
if it ain't the good ol US of A who cares? nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #34
Czars, Communist Dictators, Russian Presidents have a will always want a port in the Black Sea. gordianot Mar 2014 #33
Other: Whatever is required to maintain that port or provides even better strategic advantage TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #37
I passed because... pipi_k Mar 2014 #39
Good question. Rex Mar 2014 #41
Depends on international response. Which is why we should have a fairly TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #42
The more important question is what will the Europeans do? Renew Deal Mar 2014 #46
Also what would Brian Boitano do? Kablooie Mar 2014 #51
Whatever the Oligarchs bid him to do. As always. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #53
I take him at his word. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #54
I think he will too. nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #57
Pay DU members to kiss his ass? L0oniX Mar 2014 #55
Whatever he may do, sadoldgirl Mar 2014 #58
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