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hack89

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11. No - I understand the point of the OP very well
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 11:11 AM
Feb 2014

moral panic founded on ignorance by someone who doesn't like guns. It is song we hear a lot of here.

If students legally carrying guns to class was such a threat to public safety, you would be able to give me plenty of examples instead of your obtuse diversion.

...must read.. master bation geckosfeet Feb 2014 #1
Bravo, Prof. Hampikian. (nt) Paladin Feb 2014 #2
Feigned ignorance aside, the answer to the professors's question is very simple. aikoaiko Feb 2014 #3
The first rule of dictionaries is that you can not define Thor_MN Feb 2014 #38
True, but all dictionaries are perfect tautologies. aikoaiko Feb 2014 #81
Ridiculous. When the laws change, questioning the implications is never flawed. Thor_MN Feb 2014 #90
It has been legal in Colorado for 11 years - it hasn't been a problem hack89 Feb 2014 #4
you heaven05 Feb 2014 #7
Show me all the college students in CO shooting professors. hack89 Feb 2014 #9
you missed the point heaven05 Feb 2014 #10
No - I understand the point of the OP very well hack89 Feb 2014 #11
ohhh heaven05 Feb 2014 #13
Smilies =/= logic hack89 Feb 2014 #16
no they don't heaven05 Feb 2014 #54
ok nt hack89 Feb 2014 #56
Your logic has a very basic fault to the point of being out of context. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #111
look here I don't care heaven05 Feb 2014 #117
I understand that you have an opinion and I respect that you have that right. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #119
You've been arguing facts against faith. It doesn't usually work friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #122
That is true. And I do know the difference. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #124
Wait 'til 2 students with hidden guns get confused... Beartracks Mar 2014 #150
Your logic is faulty. appal_jack Mar 2014 #147
"8pm to 4am in a dangerous part of town" heaven05 Mar 2014 #154
So.... AlbertCat Feb 2014 #39
Each person is different. You would have to ask them hack89 Feb 2014 #42
Each person is different. AlbertCat Feb 2014 #48
ok nt hack89 Feb 2014 #50
It only takes ONCE to BE a problem. lastlib Feb 2014 #29
How many college kids will die of alcohol and drugs this year? hack89 Feb 2014 #30
Changing the subject is the first sign of losing an argument. lastlib Feb 2014 #33
The problem started 10 years ago in Colorado. And no one got shot. hack89 Feb 2014 #36
Your point about Colorado is taken... SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #67
ok nt hack89 Feb 2014 #69
And the GREAT thing about the constitution is it affords everyone that right joeglow3 Feb 2014 #140
I said this up-thread, but I'll say it again. appal_jack Mar 2014 #148
This is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Bazinga Feb 2014 #37
Problem? I see all kinds of opportunities in the idea of guns on campus. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #62
When we think of Colorado, we ***never*** think of school shootings. valerief Feb 2014 #12
None of which were at colleges nor by CCW permit holders hack89 Feb 2014 #15
Wow, it only took you 6 minutes to cite the colleges vs. pre-colleges point. valerief Feb 2014 #17
The OP is about CCW hack89 Feb 2014 #18
Yes. It's about Legalizing Guns in Schools. Insanity. nt valerief Feb 2014 #21
And we are back where we started hack89 Feb 2014 #24
Hack, the OP is about the insanity of guns in America. toby jo Feb 2014 #25
So lets regulate people that carry guns, ensuring they pass rigorous background checks hack89 Feb 2014 #26
The first concept you're missing is spillage, Hack. toby jo Feb 2014 #31
Time to present some actual facts hack89 Feb 2014 #34
Hey. This guns on campus idea could be beneficial to all concerned. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #60
Not enough potential customers hack89 Feb 2014 #66
Hey! I'm from Los Angeles. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #70
If you cannot differentiate between illegal underage gun owners hack89 Feb 2014 #71
If you cannot differentiate between humor and serious thought, well, you said it JDPriestly Feb 2014 #85
It is a subject where it is sometimes hard to tell hack89 Feb 2014 #87
The Colon-Dunning-Kruger Syndrome in this thread is strong friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #88
The people who can't differentiate between an illegal shooter and a legal one, are WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2014 #128
What a surprise! You should have told me you were coming. XRubicon Feb 2014 #134
No no no - its gunz gunz gunz hack89 Feb 2014 #136
hey buddy! I have a question for you XRubicon Feb 2014 #137
Gay marriage, equal rights, most gun control hack89 Feb 2014 #138
I like this game XRubicon Feb 2014 #139
Except Bill Murray was funny hack89 Feb 2014 #141
Funny? did you say funny? XRubicon Feb 2014 #143
I haven't seen much liberal in your viewpoint. Start listing: Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #146
Stand your ground professor. zeemike Feb 2014 #5
If he can't tell the difference between an active threat or not then, yeah, this dolt Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #6
Are you an NRA apologist? Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #14
"Affirmatively legalizing carry on campus encourages carry." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #20
The answer is yes: Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA DanTex Feb 2014 #23
"My church..." MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #28
Your HOA prohibits firearms in the community? MicaelS Feb 2014 #68
HOA prohibits firearms Lurker Deluxe Feb 2014 #86
Bucking the HOA edict. The moment a good guy with a gun becomes a bad guy with a gun. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #152
This just in: people ignore pointless, unenforceable rules. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #155
If he's serious about self defense and personal safety, he needs to ileus Mar 2014 #166
You mean like the Statie who fired on a car with children in it? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #44
Why worry about active or not threats. This guns-on-campus idea could change the face JDPriestly Feb 2014 #63
"Sarchasm" IDemo Mar 2014 #159
but I always assumed that when they reached into their backpacks they were going for a pencil OneCrazyDiamond Feb 2014 #8
Very good article libodem Feb 2014 #19
K&R. The whole article is brilliant. DanTex Feb 2014 #22
How many states allow CCW while intoxicated? Bazinga Feb 2014 #35
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #27
I wonder how many times Bazinga Feb 2014 #32
I expected better from a professor of criminal studies sarisataka Feb 2014 #40
You honestly don't think that if CCW is allowed on campus, more students would carry guns? DanTex Feb 2014 #41
Are you proposing that allowing legal guns will result in more illegal guns? Bazinga Feb 2014 #43
Allowing legal guns will result in more guns, period. DanTex Feb 2014 #47
But that is obvious, what you have failed to do is show what effect more guns will have. Bazinga Feb 2014 #52
Well, there's plenty of evidence that more guns result in more deaths. DanTex Feb 2014 #53
So at best you are extrapolating. Bazinga Feb 2014 #55
Like I said, there's no statistical study of campus carry that I'm aware of. DanTex Feb 2014 #57
It really comes down to whether or not CCW is safe in public. Bazinga Feb 2014 #59
There are obvious differences between campuses and just a random street corner. DanTex Feb 2014 #61
There are also obvious differences between football stadiums and airports and universities. Bazinga Feb 2014 #76
Campus police provides for the safety of the students. DanTex Feb 2014 #80
No more than the NYPD provides for the safety of New Yorkers. Bazinga Feb 2014 #95
Yes, more. The universities in NYC have their own campus police, on top of NYPD. DanTex Feb 2014 #97
"And the administrators and police should have the right to manage that protection as they see fit." friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #100
And this is relevant to CCW how? DanTex Feb 2014 #101
That's what happens when you let cops decide what's permissable friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #105
Really? You think that event was the result of not having CCW? DanTex Feb 2014 #106
I was referring to your deference to authority in re law enforcement on campus friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #107
Aha. So it has nothing to do with CCW. That's what I thought. DanTex Feb 2014 #108
Rather more to do with the subject than global warming, which you've brought up twice friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #114
Note to self. NRAers are not good with analogies. And use smaller words. DanTex Feb 2014 #115
Note to self: Controllers erroneously think all opponents are NRA members friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #120
The NYPD may provide for your safety, but they certainly are not responsible for it. Bazinga Feb 2014 #127
Good talking to you. I agree, thanks for keeping it thoughtful and civil. Cheers. DanTex Feb 2014 #133
Not only allowed on campus, but court houses, post offices, jails, bars, churches, airports, etc progressoid Feb 2014 #75
Many of those places provide security for the people in them. Bazinga Feb 2014 #77
Boise State Univeristy provides security. progressoid Feb 2014 #79
Campus police units provide law enforcement, not security. There is a difference. nt Bazinga Feb 2014 #96
"The Department is staffed with trained professional security and police officers." progressoid Feb 2014 #110
None of whom have any legal duty to protect someone not in custody: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #116
And? progressoid Feb 2014 #126
Kindly show us some of that evidence, please friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #82
Really? The anti-science denialism squad again? Can't you guys just use the search function? DanTex Feb 2014 #83
Despite your ad hominem attack, you're still wrong-and I can prove it friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #92
LOL. The UCR is raw data, it is not a study. DanTex Feb 2014 #94
-3; your screed neglected to mention Sharia law, gays, and/or immigration friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #98
You really don't get it... DanTex Feb 2014 #99
"It's not that the UCR numbers are wrong" So when is that uptick in violent crime going to happen? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #102
What are you talking about? What uptick in violent crime? DanTex Feb 2014 #104
Exactly- there *is* no uptick in violent crime, even with more guns friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #109
Oh, I see. You need to google "ceteris paribus". DanTex Feb 2014 #112
"Sorry, didn't realize just how little you know.." friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #121
Too bad, I thought you were actually going to look it up. DanTex Feb 2014 #130
Intuition says more would caryy sarisataka Feb 2014 #45
That's not the premise of the article. DanTex Feb 2014 #46
He is using the argument sarisataka Feb 2014 #49
Now you're changing the argument. DanTex Feb 2014 #51
He is using both arguments sarisataka Feb 2014 #91
What's to be ambivalent about? This idea should be embraced fully. It could solve a lot of JDPriestly Feb 2014 #64
Sorry, I was unclear sarisataka Feb 2014 #73
You know how a lot of colleges and universities have student bookstores on campus? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #58
The customer base would be too small for this to work. ManiacJoe Feb 2014 #135
One of us misread the tone of the post. I think it was you but it might have been me. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #153
Could easily be me. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #163
I'm a college professor. Straw Man Feb 2014 #65
Not a professor of journalism I guess... DanTex Feb 2014 #72
Snark is defined by nastiness. Straw Man Feb 2014 #123
Yeah, right..... llmart Feb 2014 #74
An agenda? Straw Man Feb 2014 #125
Related to the topic / further reading - here is a thread from last month discussing petronius Feb 2014 #78
Like moths to a flame... billh58 Feb 2014 #84
Plenty of grabbers here with their moral panic hack89 Feb 2014 #89
And we're "bad" for not going along with it... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #93
Well, if it's a white professor in Florida and a Black/Brown student -- we know what will happen. Hoyt Feb 2014 #103
Sigh. raven mad Feb 2014 #113
Every state that I know of makes you take classes that teach this exact information proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #129
I find it interesting that this college teacher Jenoch Feb 2014 #131
Nice to see that "The Onion" has competition! ManiacJoe Feb 2014 #132
My preferred gun... nikto Feb 2014 #142
wtf kind of post is that? cui bono Mar 2014 #144
The students who fall asleep in class. Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #145
Just a thought: King_Klonopin Mar 2014 #149
There are people illegally carrying guns on campus everyday hack89 Mar 2014 #156
Isn't that argument just a regurgitated NRA talking point... King_Klonopin Mar 2014 #164
No - because actual facts say otherwise hack89 Mar 2014 #165
Sick society. secondvariety Mar 2014 #151
Lets look at an environment where everyone carrys a weapon and see what happens kmlisle Mar 2014 #157
CCW has been around for a long time. There are real facts on record hack89 Mar 2014 #158
DOD policy is not based on real facts? kmlisle Mar 2014 #160
As a 20 year Navy veteran I have often had my doubts. hack89 Mar 2014 #161
About Greg Hampikian IDemo Mar 2014 #162
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