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theHandpuppet

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71. The Catholic Bishops in Uganda have NOT condemned the new laws
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:56 PM
Feb 2014

Their latest stance is that they will "reserve judgment" on the newly passed laws while reaffirming their opposition to LGBT rights. Over the years their position on the anti-gay laws has seesawed from pushing the "kill the gays" bill, then withdrawing their support until the death penalty clause was removed, then supporting the bill again when it was reintroduced. Now they simply "reserve judgment". Ugandan Minister of Ethics and Integrity, Simon Lokodo, a former Catholic priest, has such a hatred for gays that he has stated that to commit child rape is better than being homosexual. So please don't try to pass off the Catholic leaders in Uganda as advocates for LGBT rights -- they are anything but.

There are plenty of folks here who have condemned and ridiculed the religious right's involvement in anti-gay violence and hatred. That they should find no support here is a given. The difference is, folks here don't post cheerleading threads for Rick Warren or Pat Robertson or Scott Lively (currently facing charges of crimes against humanity). They don't post threads here praising promoters of homophobia even as gays around the world are fighting for their rights and lives because most folks understand how incredibly insulting and hurtful that is. GLBTs and their supporters JUST won a victory in Arizona and are still fighting a similar law in Kansas, both bills backed by the Catholic conferences of both states. So instead of granting us just 24 hours to breathe a sigh of relief what we get instead is a reminder of the religious bigotry we still face. Well gee, thanks a freaking lot. That will really take my mind off the fact that women and gays are still facing scores of lawsuits filed in the church's "religious liberty" campaign.

Finally, you know, most of us can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can fight the war on poverty and income inequality, against unjust wars, support labor unionization, fight for immigrants, and yet do so without throwing the rights of women and LGBTs under the bus. Some of us actually see all of these battles as a common cause.

Pope Francis quote... [View all] Playinghardball Feb 2014 OP
Great quote, in other words there is not any trickle down economics. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #1
Precisely. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #43
tinkle down + there's no PEE. pansypoo53219 Feb 2014 #45
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #2
waiting for usual haters to pipe in leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #4
OP was at 1:22 Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #11
not surprising that same person always has wonderful things to say. leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #13
Francis says my family is a destructive attack on God, he's the hater, pal. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #16
yea he should ride in there in there in his papal tank and blow them all away leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #19
He should open his mouth and speak against this evil. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #20
im saying that uganda wont listem to him anyway no matter what he says. his followers leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #24
Uganda's largest religion is the one he leads, if his words are worthless to them Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #28
1800s were a long time ago and this pope didnt behead anyone leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #47
He has not said a word against this law, not one word. He has said many nasty Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #51
my point was that things change given time and his words were about finding peace rather than leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #55
What influence does the Pope have on the American Televangelists who are responsible for spreading sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #64
The Catholic Bishops in Uganda have NOT condemned the new laws theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #71
We have fought the war on poverty? Really, tell that to women who have to work three jobs, 'thanks sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #73
Yes, there is a war on poverty theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #74
But that would just be words, no? treestar Feb 2014 #79
Well according to some... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #83
I think this comment defines the Francis Fans. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #23
"Thou shall not kill" Lordquinton Feb 2014 #25
Wrong. LumosMaxima Feb 2014 #44
Then every catholic priest I've asked about it Lordquinton Feb 2014 #53
Actually, "Thou wall not kill" doesn't apply if you're not Jewish. Of course, I don't know.... Moonwalk Feb 2014 #82
The Pope, through his Papal Nunico to Uganda has objected to that law: happyslug Feb 2014 #41
Francis has not said a fucking word, this bull you are pushing is months old Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #50
Pope is a hate manger who is a bigot and a misogynist. NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #26
no stg81 Feb 2014 #34
Yes. He believes gay couples adopting children is "child abuse". NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #35
What? No answer? I'm shocked! n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #65
As a woman, I am very pleased with this Pope's stand on what most affects women all over the world, sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #66
Tell it these women theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #68
Why would I have to tell women anything? We women know what creates inequality for women. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #69
Yeah, well I'm a woman too theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #72
i was wondering how long that would last leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #54
I see that you didn't have to wait long. Beacool Feb 2014 #61
nope they flocked in like vultures on a carcass. i understand though if i were gay i think i would leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #63
And another... SidDithers Feb 2014 #5
Oh, here's another good one... SidDithers Feb 2014 #6
Wow, so he thinks marriage equality is the "machination of the Father of Lies."?! SunSeeker Feb 2014 #14
i guess tolerance is a one way street leftyohiolib Feb 2014 #15
did you intentionally try to sound like the SB1062 sponsors? nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #37
Yes, he says equality if from the Devil, he is leader of more Ugandans than any Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #17
Is this a recent quote? el_bryanto Feb 2014 #7
It is meant to distract from the reality of Francis' tacit approval of Uganda's hate Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #10
That was the old industrialists…When philanthropy meant leaving a legacy with your name... Tikki Feb 2014 #8
Has he, as spiritual leader of the largest religious group in Uganda, managed to Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #9
The president of Uganda VA_Jill Feb 2014 #36
Because no one here defends those evangelicals for their harmful action but they Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #49
Apparently VA_Jill Feb 2014 #52
Hate is what is being done in Uganda. I am being critical of dangerous teachings Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #78
Apparently some folks need a refresher theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #80
And right on cue... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #85
Especially when it comes to the Catholic Church--richest organization in the world! hue Feb 2014 #12
some food for thought. "How Rich Is the Catholic Church?" hue Feb 2014 #18
Francis is Spirtual Leader of nearly half of Uganda, yet he is silent about the horrific Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #21
"I call you all here to announce that I'm turning over all Vatican materiels to the prosecutors Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #22
The contruction of a pubic image that is counter to the reality is very difficult at best Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #27
Supply side economics is mythology. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #29
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #30
This pope won't let up in his holy war against the 1%! :) reformist2 Feb 2014 #31
The pope is on a jihad Renew Deal Feb 2014 #33
Maybe he meant nothing comes out for the pour. Renew Deal Feb 2014 #32
As much negative posters try they will not destroy the paths Pope Francis leads. Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #38
He also leads people down the path of oppression and bigotry theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #39
Sometimes one becomes a prisoner of their own hate, you can have a glass which is half full or a Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #46
Francis speaks hate againt my family, he is a prisoner of hate, his followers Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #48
Are you saying Pope Francis speaks hate and therefore you speak hate? Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #57
I think what it means is... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #59
Saying his glass is full of shit is criticism of his bigoted views. Why do you defend Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #76
It means his bigoted opinions are full of shit. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #77
Then I suggest Francis free himself from the shackles of his own bigotry theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #58
Yeah, well, I suspect if the same criticism were levied against NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #70
Did you find hate in the original post or did you see sensible reasoning in Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #75
I think it overflows - TBF Feb 2014 #40
k&r for Pope Francis. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #42
I hope that American Catholic voters read this... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #56
You tell them, your Holiness!!! Beacool Feb 2014 #60
When are you going to speak out against Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #62
I'm sorry but this guy needs a food tester....soon Jake2413 Feb 2014 #67
Francis is the only pope I've ever loved. AikidoSoul Feb 2014 #81
Good Pope warrprayer Feb 2014 #84
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