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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
42. You are full of crap. People are killed driving forklifts.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

They can kill others. If think driving a 'lift is a piece of cake, you're wrong. You have to have a forklift license to drive a 'lift. You have to be certified on each TYPE of 'lift in order to drive it safely.

Forklifts weigh much more than cars or trucks. They have to in order to be able to move heavy loads. They operate differently from cars or trucks. You have to mindful all the time driving one, in order not to cause damage to equipment or injury to your co-workers or yourself.

I have had a 'lift license for over 12 years. I know how dangerous they can be. Fortunately no one has ever been killed or serious injured in our facility.

http://www.toolboxtopics.com/Gen%20Industry/Forklift%20Fatalities.htm

FORKLIFT FATALITIES

OSHA estimates forklifts cause about 85 fatal accidents per year; 34,900 accidents result in serious injury; and 61,800 are classified as non-serious. According to the Industrial Truck Association, there are about 855,900 forklifts in the U.S. Therefore, over 11% of all forklifts will be involved in some type of accident each year (assuming only one accident per forklift).

The ITA also reports that the useful life of a lift truck is about 8 years. This means that about 90% of all forklifts will be involved in some type of accident during their useful life--again assuming only one accident per forklift. If you operate this equipment, there is a possibility that you may have an accident at some point during your career. To help reduce the possibility of being injured, it's important to understand where and how these accidents occur.

Studies show that many of these accidents could have been prevented by better training. No one starts out with the innate knowledge, skills, and abilities to safely operate a forklift. As OSHA requires, drivers must be properly trained to do so. The lesson to be learned is, operating a forklift without training is dangerous and can even be fatal to you or other employees working in the area..

Training can also prevent or reduce the severity of an accident related to the stability of a lift truck traveling with an elevated load. Keep the load as low as possible to increase vehicle stability and to help prevent tip-over accidents. Even if drivers ignore this rule, and the vehicle tips over, injuries are usually minor if they stay with the vehicle instead of jumping off. The normal tendency is for a person to jump downward, so the driver lands on the floor or ground--usually directly into the path of the overhead guard. The most common result is a crushing injury to the head, neck, or back where the overhead guard strikes the employee.


http://ohsonline.com/articles/2013/09/01/death-by-forklift-is-really-the-pits.aspx

Death by Forklift is Really the PITs

By Chuck Paulausky
Sep 01, 2013

The owner of a machinery and equipment training school was killed while filming a forklift safety video. He was thrown from the forklift and crushed. The investigation revealed the fatality was due to driver error, high speed over rough terrain, and an unused seat belt. Unfortunately, this type of forklift fatality is all too common. OSHA statistics indicate that there are roughly 85 forklift fatalities and 34,900 serious injuries each year, with 42 percent of the forklift fatalities from the operator's being crushed by a tipping vehicle.

OSHA has established detailed regulations for operation of "powered industrial trucks," which include all types of material-handling vehicles, from forktrucks to powered pallet jacks to order-pickers. The Powered Industrial Truck (PIT) regulations can be found at 29 CFR 1910.178. Incorporated into the regulation by reference, ANSI B56.1-1969 covers the design and construction requirements for PITs.

The OSHA regulation provides specific designations for PITs based on the type of power source and safeguards. In addition, "designated locations" are identified, such as hazardous atmospheres. The regulation also covers a variety of other topics, including operation, maintenance, and regular, documented inspections of the vehicles. One critical part of the regulation covers operator training.

PITs can be especially unforgiving under the wrong conditions. Operators need to understand that PITs are very different from regular vehicles in the way they maneuver and are balanced. Employees who have never driven a PIT will not have the innate knowledge and skill to drive one without training. For this reason, much of the required training is focused on operation, load capacity, stability, and operating limitations.


More at link.

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I remember back before george w bu$h readjusted the economy, government workers made less, often way RC Feb 2014 #59
Which is why I *NEVER* understood the logic behind the Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #25
The ragefests are being cultivated by the corporations. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #70
Nope. I love me my sportsers; however, I think they are all overpaid. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #89
Jealousy is much easier to use than logic when marketing a product. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2014 #32
Also, LOL at "forklift" = "heavy machinery." Brickbat Feb 2014 #3
Me too sharp_stick Feb 2014 #7
Running a forklift means that someone is sitting on their butt all day. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #14
You do not know what you are talking about. MicaelS Feb 2014 #61
You are full of crap. People are killed driving forklifts. MicaelS Feb 2014 #42
Thank you. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #50
A thank you from me too hibbing Feb 2014 #69
And bullshit back to you. People are killed and injured working in the food service industry also. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #81
No, I'm not. MicaelS Feb 2014 #92
You know what, I've seen people sit on their butts all day doing nothing in both blue collar TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #103
You did see the point where I said "working class" right? MicaelS Feb 2014 #105
I guess that the definition of "working class" is where we disagree. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #106
lol, yeah. Marr Feb 2014 #11
It would be pretty "heavy" if it slammed into you at full speed Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #13
LOL. Brickbat Feb 2014 #20
Not defending this douche but some forklifts are heavy machinery progressoid Feb 2014 #21
It is heavy machinery. RC Feb 2014 #65
So what would happen to the minimum wage for tipped employees? badtoworse Feb 2014 #4
That hasn't been raised in thirty years, it is still $2.15 Bandit Feb 2014 #23
Then the higher minimum wage would not apply to them badtoworse Feb 2014 #24
Not in Washington State it's not Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #28
Each state has their own minimums but I was referring to the Federal one Bandit Feb 2014 #33
In Washington tipped employees make the same minimum wage trixicopper Feb 2014 #41
Line cook was the hardest job I ever had. tridim Feb 2014 #5
At bare minimum, you have to get certified as a fork lift operator Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #19
"Nonsense." redqueen Feb 2014 #46
BOOM! 7962 Feb 2014 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #76
PW, I'm often on your side; but I drove a fork lift in Chapel Hill, NC, to supplement ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #43
It remained that way in Ohio into the late 1980s. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #74
+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #49
Rubs me the wrong way, too Rider3 Feb 2014 #9
Not to mention... "Maybe you should be making more than you do now"... JHB Feb 2014 #10
Hmmmm, living wage for ALL JJChambers Feb 2014 #12
Amen.... daleanime Feb 2014 #39
YES! 1000% YES! fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #79
I really wonder how many of those comments TBF Feb 2014 #15
sadly, i know some family members who just that stupid. they see anything that helps people less off dionysus Feb 2014 #29
You said it. It's a widespread phenomenon. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #78
why thank you! dionysus Feb 2014 #86
We know for a fact that these discussion groups Enthusiast Feb 2014 #75
Agree 100% nt TBF Feb 2014 #98
I understand why this bothers you, but from a practical standpoint, hughee99 Feb 2014 #16
Divide and conquer. woo me with science Feb 2014 #17
+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #80
A forklift ain't a Boeing 747. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #18
Insufficient Data Token Republican Feb 2014 #22
If her job truly is worth more than minimum wage, then her income would be going up too. jeff47 Feb 2014 #34
That hasn't ever been the case for wages going up. It's a myth. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #47
No, you're talking about a different statistics. jeff47 Feb 2014 #52
No. I'm talking about minimum wage. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #63
Then you're wrong. jeff47 Feb 2014 #77
You're arguing against your own arguments. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #91
No, that would be you. jeff47 Feb 2014 #100
Doh! fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #104
Not necessarily Token Republican Feb 2014 #62
Whether or not her company is profitable doesn't change what the job is worth. jeff47 Feb 2014 #72
Respectfully disagree Token Republican Feb 2014 #94
That picture of Data is causing my MicaelS Feb 2014 #44
Deleted Token Republican Feb 2014 #53
Thank you. MicaelS Feb 2014 #60
Try this edhopper Feb 2014 #26
I would still tip, but B2G Feb 2014 #27
Me neither.... I'm a generous tipper partly because I know they get paid crap... Adrahil Feb 2014 #36
Anyone arguing against raising minimum wage... Orrex Feb 2014 #30
How would the critics here feel if we raised wait staff to 15 while lowering teachers to match... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #31
In any job, you pay a premium for training and skill. jeff47 Feb 2014 #35
Concur.... though I have had waiters that were definitely what I'd call "skilled." Adrahil Feb 2014 #37
Correct. But those criticizing this woman seem to feel HER training and skill are irrelevant... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #38
No, we're criticizing her because she doesn't realize that training premium would still exist. jeff47 Feb 2014 #40
It doesn't actually work that way... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #51
That's why I said it isn't linear. jeff47 Feb 2014 #66
pwnage. nice. dionysus Feb 2014 #84
response.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #93
Sooooo much wrong in one place. jeff47 Feb 2014 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author ArtiChoke Feb 2014 #54
Jeff's right. ArtiChoke Feb 2014 #58
that's the exact argument RWers use, your slip is showing... dionysus Feb 2014 #88
Is it? How about adress the point... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #97
I believe the RW term was used because it takes a special person fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #99
So apply it consistently. That's what everyone is dancing around... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #111
I never said those things. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #113
If that waiter doesn't handle her food properly, she could be crapping and puking and MADem Feb 2014 #45
And that is why we should be paying these people more! liberal N proud Feb 2014 #48
I agree. I think a fifteen dollar minimum wage is not unreasonable. MADem Feb 2014 #102
A higher minimum wage will put upward pressure on wages My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #55
That's kind of a sad attitude gollygee Feb 2014 #56
A forklift is certainly NOT heavy machinery. AAO Feb 2014 #57
I tip because... ArtiChoke Feb 2014 #64
I ran a forklift for a while. It wasn't very challenging. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #67
Maybe she should be making more than servers. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #71
If the person is not happy, then why doesn't the person become a waiter. Salaries are determined by lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #73
Not under a minimum wage law, they aren't. N.T Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #90
Of course it needs to go up. But I dont think it should go up a lot INSTANTLY. 7962 Feb 2014 #83
If her jealousy gets the better of her arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #95
Is $15 on the table? I thought it was $10 being discussed? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #96
The correct answer is..... CANDO Feb 2014 #107
too bad greed blinds people frwrfpos Feb 2014 #112
The woman is missing the whole point, that she's worked for 6 years mountain grammy Feb 2014 #114
the person who said that is likely to give zero tip in any case. yurbud Feb 2014 #117
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