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In reply to the discussion: In defense of George Zimmerman. [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)105. There needs to be an independent investigation and a trial.
I think what is going to come out of this is a better definition of when you can stand your ground and defend yourself.
If you go looking for a fight and you find one you can't claim self-defense, even if you didn't start the actual fight.
And that's what it looks like happened with Zimmerman.
He went looking for a fight. We don't know who started the actual physical confrontation, but it doesn't matter. Zimmerman went looking for a confrontation, and he got one. Even if Martin was beating his ass, Zimmerman started the entire chain of events.
And he knew it, or should have known it, as soon as he stepped out of his car.
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Are you perhaps confusing support for the right to a fair trial with 'conservatism'?
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#1
No, I am not mad but the tenor of the discussion clearly indicates a prejudice toward guilt
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#22
You're missing the whole point. If Zimmerman was on trial, this would be a non-story.
Scuba
Mar 2012
#98
if this goes to trial and he's found guility with the existing SYG laws in place
belcffub
Mar 2012
#100
The Cops screwed up big time in this case. Massive negligence in collecting vital
crunch60
Mar 2012
#96
Just one correction, the body was not in the morgue for three days. The shooting was on the 26th
sabrina 1
Mar 2012
#48
You rather miss the point that we want him to go to trial. So far he hasn't been charged and that is
uppityperson
Mar 2012
#20
How can there be a fair trail WHEN CHAIN OF EVIDENCE HAS BEEN COMPROMISED BEYOND belief?
Justice wanted
Mar 2012
#28
He is innocent until proven guilty in this country. But first, he has to be charged.
appleannie1
Mar 2012
#2
No, he's a murderer. Whether he's charged or convicted is irrelevant to that fact.
Son of Gob
Mar 2012
#6
Might be a fact. But until proven in a court of law, it's an unsubstantiated one. /nt
TheMadMonk
Mar 2012
#32
I am probably one of those "supporters" and I resent that, I don't "support" HIM, I support his
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#14
Do you want him charge, brought to trial? Simple questions. Please answer.
uppityperson
Mar 2012
#21
I want a trial if that's the appropriate avenue. I don't know what 'evidence' exists and I don't
sikorsky
Mar 2012
#33
Inadmissibility due to broken chain of custody is not in question...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Mar 2012
#94
I want to see him charged and brought to trial. You seem to think those of us frustrated by the pace
peacebird
Mar 2012
#25
No, what progressives want is a thorough investigation of this whole incident.
mysuzuki2
Mar 2012
#10
You can be a Heritage Foundation Disciple in love with guns and tax cuts and be
Dragonfli
Mar 2012
#24
People are "guilty" of being conservatives because they support Conservative assumptions, thoughts
Dragonfli
Mar 2012
#31
You took it personally, I was talking about conservatives, It appears part of you identifies as such
Dragonfli
Mar 2012
#69
Respectfully, you dodged. This thread is about conservative postings on DU.
morningfog
Mar 2012
#104
If he felt a black teenager walking quietly through the neighborhood was a threat to his life, he
uppityperson
Mar 2012
#73
We appear to both not realize how conservatism is but one shade of progressiveness
Dragonfli
Mar 2012
#55
This progressive board tolerates extreme right wing positions on gun infatuation.
Warren Stupidity
Mar 2012
#54
You put that very well, better by far than my attempts, simple and indisputable.
Dragonfli
Mar 2012
#77
Perhaps the President should just put his name on the "kill by drone strike" list
MNBrewer
Mar 2012
#76
Makes as much sense as Zimmerman's "kill by gun strike", he also solved his goals sans Due Process
Dragonfli
Mar 2012
#79