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yardwork

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83. So far he hasn't been asked to defend his actions. The police chose not to press charges.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 11:05 AM
Mar 2012

Now, after weeks of public outcry, a grand jury is going to review the case. I don't have a lot of faith that this will lead to charges. The DA presents the evidence to grand juries, and the DA, police chief, and town manager think that there is no reason to arrest Zimmerman.

It does not matter...... Logical Mar 2012 #1
I'm totally talking out of my ass, because I'm not a lawyer, but... Bicoastal Mar 2012 #6
I agree with you that this is a tough case to prove...... Logical Mar 2012 #12
But...I've noticed over the years that many are willing to believe a man accused of rape... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #32
Yes, and he out weighed the kid by 100 pounds. Hard to believe he was worried about his.... Logical Mar 2012 #34
People make such a big deal out of weight. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #44
I realize size is not all that matters. But I have trouble believing Zimmerman felt scared. Logical Mar 2012 #50
Me, too. Esp since he was armed. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #64
Zimmerman is 28 starroute Mar 2012 #75
It's very likely Zimmerfuck did it to himself Taverner Mar 2012 #57
my thought too Broderick Mar 2012 #80
yes. he stated he was following. he was told not to and he did anyways seabeyond Mar 2012 #14
The 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman to not follow the victim rustydog Mar 2012 #33
Exactly. Noodleboy13 Mar 2012 #7
Wrong cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #41
A Knife? Well hell yes. Wow! But if someone parked in your spot and you get out of the car.... Logical Mar 2012 #47
What if they pull a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea on you? Shoot them? uppityperson Mar 2012 #69
Major Whole in your theory. Two witnesses called 911 reporting Zimmerman's actions. NOT only Justice wanted Mar 2012 #2
So hopefully it doesn't matter who threw the first punch, right? Bicoastal Mar 2012 #10
My guess: Zimmerman tried to "detain him until police arrived" arcane1 Mar 2012 #18
WHAT RIGHT DID ZIMMERMAN HAD TO DETAIN HIM?! Trayvon was on a PUBLIC street! I'm tired Justice wanted Mar 2012 #26
+1, there have been other stories with the premise that these "authorities" have the right uponit7771 Mar 2012 #51
Technically, it was a private street but that does not make a difference csziggy Mar 2012 #58
That's just it. The streets to get to the houses are really public because not just ONE person own Justice wanted Mar 2012 #61
He had no right whatsoever to detain him! n/t arcane1 Mar 2012 #53
+1 X_Digger Mar 2012 #28
+1. and he had no right to detain the kid, either. MADem Mar 2012 #37
That's what I thought about this story from day 1 too. chrisa Mar 2012 #39
THIS IS A CHILD being stalked by a man! but YOU ONLY SEE BLACK AND WHITE! Justice wanted Mar 2012 #24
Yes, I was very upset when they were calling him a man when this first started. This was a child. jwirr Mar 2012 #84
If some man approached me carrying a gun, I'd try to run. If he kept stalking me, I'd hit out too uppityperson Mar 2012 #70
Is there something that indicates Zimmerman was brandishing? X_Digger Mar 2012 #71
Well, he certainly had it out in his hand before he shot. "brandishing" is not specific enough, true uppityperson Mar 2012 #72
As far as I can recall, none of the witnesses who saw Zimmerman on top of Martin mentioned a gun. X_Digger Mar 2012 #73
It's the kid who was screaming for help in the 911 call background. aquart Mar 2012 #3
Self inflicted Politicalboi Mar 2012 #4
Maybe a family member hit him with a cast iron pan because he's an idiot. nt MADem Mar 2012 #38
They said he did have some calls on domestic violence from a former fiance. Maybe his wife gateley Mar 2012 #65
That's what I was thinking. vaberella Mar 2012 #89
But witnesses say there wasn't fight. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2012 #5
Perpetrators injure themselves more frequently Mariana Mar 2012 #68
Could be that Trayvon defended himself successfully and got away (almost) arcane1 Mar 2012 #8
The point is, there should have been a thorough police investigation. MoonRiver Mar 2012 #9
The girlfriend thing makes me so mad... Bicoastal Mar 2012 #11
Criminally negligent and maybe worse. MoonRiver Mar 2012 #15
Whose blood was on Zimmerman's clothes? mysuzuki2 Mar 2012 #13
So many balls dropped here XanaDUer Mar 2012 #16
Yes, Zimmerman's clothes should have been forensically examined csziggy Mar 2012 #60
This is what Chief Bill Lee said. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #17
That dog don't hunt. Bicoastal Mar 2012 #20
Yeah it doesn't make sense. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #21
Hmmm problem with that statement is that Trayvon's girl friend -who was on the phone with Trayvon Justice wanted Mar 2012 #29
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2012 #52
the 911 tapes completely disprove that theory frylock Mar 2012 #35
Trayvon seems to have lost Zimmerman Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #76
If Zimmerman laid hands on Martin to detain him, or took the first swing- no. X_Digger Mar 2012 #78
zimmerman was clearly the instigator therefore losing any right to claim self defense.. frylock Mar 2012 #93
Isn't this a gated community? Where are the surveillance tapes? Seems such a paranoid area would Mnemosyne Mar 2012 #19
If they was never medically examined it could have been Trayvon's blood. alphafemale Mar 2012 #22
Or it could have been from hitting his head on a cupboard the day before. uppityperson Mar 2012 #27
how do we know there was a wound ? JI7 Mar 2012 #23
Exactly KT2000 Mar 2012 #25
Bingo. Police normally photograph that stuff. savalez Mar 2012 #36
True, the police dept isn't on the up and up uponit7771 Mar 2012 #54
so, he hit his head bigtree Mar 2012 #30
Go ask Zimmerman. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #31
It bothers me too... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #40
The hobby argument doesn't fly either... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #42
REPEAL THE 2ND AMENDMENT. nt Joseph8th Mar 2012 #43
If Trayvon hit his sorry racist ass hard enough, be could have hit his head on the way down. morningfog Mar 2012 #45
Did you also happen to hear the police recording, where Zimmerman was told Th1onein Mar 2012 #46
A good prosecutor would rip apart a wound defense. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #48
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #49
The shooting took place more than a few yards from where a vehicle could be csziggy Mar 2012 #55
Was this "noticeable wound" a backwards B? n/t gkhouston Mar 2012 #56
I think it was a backwards N. nt gateley Mar 2012 #59
I'm not a lawyer. But say you initiate a fistfight, because you're a racist. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #62
In Florida? Maybe.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #66
The 911 tapes record the sounds of a young person screaming for his life. yardwork Mar 2012 #77
Right, which means he can't avail himself of this defense. X_Digger Mar 2012 #79
So far he hasn't been asked to defend his actions. The police chose not to press charges. yardwork Mar 2012 #83
Have you ever been on a grand jury? X_Digger Mar 2012 #87
I hope you're right. yardwork Mar 2012 #88
Someone fighting for their life can exhibit amazing strength Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #63
If a hospital admittance report shows up ... frazzled Mar 2012 #67
Finally sonmeone in this thread spouts the obvious... trumad Mar 2012 #90
Just a thought - would any of us not defend ourselves if some guy stalks us and does not identify jwirr Mar 2012 #74
I dont suppose they tested the blood on his head.... Evasporque Mar 2012 #81
Let me simplify it for you. Ganja Ninja Mar 2012 #82
That's why we have trials. n/t DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #85
Police are saying Zimmerman wasn't confronting Trayvon when Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #86
That makes no sense. vaberella Mar 2012 #91
the police look like they're either covering or derelict, which is it? newspeak Mar 2012 #94
Trayvon was on the phone with this girlfriend when the girl heard a scuffle before it went dead. vaberella Mar 2012 #92
The longer this murderer remains loose EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #95
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