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redqueen

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124. Constant assault on language? No, these are basic sociological terms.

Wed Feb 19, 2014, 08:16 AM

Feb 2014

Terms which explain relatively simple concepts that have been explained over and over and over and over.

There's even a handy video that been posted repeatedly just in the past few days.

Those who still don't get it simply Do. Not. Want. To.

And as for "graduate school women's study feminist speak"?

Might want to dial back the MRA talking points. This is SOCIOLOGY.

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There was a point to it, you know [View all] MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 OP

I don't think you needed to explain yourself Manny. RiffRandell Feb 2014 #1

There are a lot of chunks missing from my butt after that thread MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #2

you should see the other guy Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #4

Yeah he did. There's a lot of DU members lacking the sarcasm gene. Scuba Feb 2014 #125

deconstructing? objectifying? Sacrebleu! Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #3

No explaining necessary you were just shining a light on hypocrisy in you usual eloquent style Drew Richards Feb 2014 #5

This is so true Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #226

People either get you or they don't Manny. Autumn Feb 2014 #6

Sadly, some people choose to not get it. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #9

It does give them something to do and Autumn Feb 2014 #20

Things got a little quieter because of that thread. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #7

Yep. nt oldhippie Feb 2014 #22

Don't neuter satire by explaining it 1000words Feb 2014 #8

Well I thought it was well played. KentuckyWoman Feb 2014 #10

You wanted to stir shit and start a flame war MattBaggins Feb 2014 #11

+1 Squinch Feb 2014 #12

Cheeky provocation is just his style LittleBlue Feb 2014 #36

Manny being Manny ... 1000words Feb 2014 #39

Some people are looking to "flame". I call them self-righteous bullies. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #37

Standard operating procedure for some. FSogol Feb 2014 #152

You Better Believe It! nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #160

You are clueless, nothing more. HERVEPA Feb 2014 #180

This ^^^^^^^^^^^ treestar Feb 2014 #207

Satire or not, I didn't get it yesterday and I don't get it today. Hoppy Feb 2014 #13

Don't worry about it, most people here got it ... sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #27

It might make more sense if you are aware of Manny's posting history. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #31

His stuff is not that thought provoking at all MattBaggins Feb 2014 #32

Fortunately, I don't get offended easily. TexasTowelie Feb 2014 #35

Gee, does Manny annoy you Matt? HangOnKids Feb 2014 #69

I agree with HOK pintobean Feb 2014 #79

Self-delete Feral Child Feb 2014 #229

Then I suggest you put Manny on ignore. I dont think he will mind. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #38

That's a fucking bummer. cliffordu Feb 2014 #49

Do you find Monty Python funny? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #53

And now ... 1000words Feb 2014 #60

I knew Monty and Manny is no Monty MattBaggins Feb 2014 #82

Yes, but they need to suggest that if you didn't find it funny, you have no sense of humor. Squinch Feb 2014 #114

No. I do find Manny funny. 840high Feb 2014 #182

Meh.. he tries to hard MattBaggins Feb 2014 #187

Self delete. Feral Child Feb 2014 #230

Manny set up a straw man about "dirty music." joshcryer Feb 2014 #59

Perspective is such a critical thing Fumesucker Feb 2014 #67

Oh fer fuck sake you have no control over yourself? MattBaggins Feb 2014 #84

You think sexual orientation is a choice? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #89

Orientation. No. Day to day behavior - of course. bettyellen Feb 2014 #104

Perspective Fumesucker Feb 2014 #107

Did you really not see the thread about the SI threads making this a hostile place? bettyellen Feb 2014 #128

Do you really not get it? gaspee Feb 2014 #112

It's not mind-boggling to me.....it's quite obvious to me what the major malfunction is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #168

People who are racist say the same thing....it was so much better in the "olden days" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #85

Do you think sexual orientation is a choice? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #90

What does that have to do with what I just said? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #91

When did you choose what turns you on? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #93

I am NOT changing the course of this conversation....no matter how hard you try... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #94

When did you choose what turns you on? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #95

Not going to happen.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #96

When did you choose what turns you on? Fumesucker Feb 2014 #99

This isn't about sexual attraction, it's about objectification. boston bean Feb 2014 #101

Perspective Fumesucker Feb 2014 #103

I would like you to do is stop supporting boston bean Feb 2014 #106

y'all alienate people with accusations like that arely staircase Feb 2014 #113

So, pointing out the difference and explaining boston bean Feb 2014 #120

Constant assault on language? No, these are basic sociological terms. redqueen Feb 2014 #124

what is MRA? arely staircase Feb 2014 #134

A couple of very informative links: redqueen Feb 2014 #136

I was actually talking about "framing" and "derailing" arely staircase Feb 2014 #139

When did YOU choose that someone needs to put photos of what turns you on in front of Squinch Feb 2014 #116

They are the He Men!....DO NOT tell them they aren't allowed to objectify women any VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #165

You say that this is sarcasm, but I am being told in another thread that the Squinch Feb 2014 #186

I agree....just added the sarcasm because I didn't want it to be misconstrued that "I" was saying it VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #197

You nailed it- after mocking offense at watermelon jokes, he wrote a bettyellen Feb 2014 #138

Famesucker, this has nothing to do with your sexuality, and you know it. Squinch Feb 2014 #115

As soon as I saw the first one...I knew it would be followed by another half-assed VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #166

So if you see an attractive woman in church, you have to rip her clothes off and fuck her, right? jeff47 Feb 2014 #161

WWBD? Squinch Feb 2014 #188

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA gollygee Feb 2014 #213

It's bizarre that gassing off on topics you do not even understand .... bettyellen Feb 2014 #144

Right, those throngs of Feminists bagging on Beatles songs were getting out of hand kcr Feb 2014 #14

But now he's pointing out all his reasonable goals for the thread. While blinking innocently. Squinch Feb 2014 #15

Uhhhmmmm Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #16

it was a nice followup to the thread making fun of the fried chicken issue from last week.. dionysus Feb 2014 #154

there seems to be a pattern doesn't there? I noticed it too .. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #167

kind of like Republicans who said it was just Food JI7 Feb 2014 #17

Yeah....what's so racist about food? Why you've gone too far now....I cannot even joke VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #87

This thread feels like a Paula Deen plantation themed wedding - bettyellen Feb 2014 #105

Yes. We are just being silly. Squinch Feb 2014 #122

I got where you were coming from, I think, TDale313 Feb 2014 #18

as such though hfojvt Feb 2014 #19

Objectification is a cultural practice that reduces women to things BainsBane Feb 2014 #21

Oh, I think that your point came across. Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #23

What you'd hoped to do vs what you did: yewberry Feb 2014 #24

I remember my neighbor protesting he wasn't being racist while mocking black folks Lex Feb 2014 #25

+1 BainsBane Feb 2014 #26

So you think Manny was mocking? Who was he mocking? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #46

He was mocking people who objected to GD being turned geek tragedy Feb 2014 #48

Really? He really said that? Please give me a quote. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #50

His words: geek tragedy Feb 2014 #57

Watch it. You wouldn't want to go too far deconstructing everything! joshcryer Feb 2014 #61

If Manny has ever objected to sexism from someone at DU geek tragedy Feb 2014 #63

Greatist satirist on DU! joshcryer Feb 2014 #64

Um, do you know who founded the Elizabeth Warren group? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #66

Doesn't take much to support geek tragedy Feb 2014 #68

So my non-support of a woman I disagree with MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #70

I wouldn't say that BainsBane Feb 2014 #77

Yes...you even have a woman friend....check! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #88

Some of your best friends, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2014 #146

But not yours, eh?! MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #156

E.g., MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #72

That person was trying to be clever and geek tragedy Feb 2014 #73

He's quite confused about the real difference between sexual attraction boston bean Feb 2014 #102

He is better at words than I am but you are certainly proving his point. Seeking the slightess rhett o rick Feb 2014 #150

he pulled this crap when the discussion was harassment of women in public. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #153

Relax MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #58

I see they have a "swarm" thing going. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #151

I see you have decided which "swarm" you want to be associated with...THANKS! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #170

You mean the 160+ on the thread about the hostile bettyellen Feb 2014 #177

Yeah....thats what all the bigots say about Black people too! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #169

+1000000000000000000000000000 redqueen Feb 2014 #54

No need to explain, I got it zeemike Feb 2014 #28

then YOU would be wrong... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #172

"which is why we groom ourselves - so people will look at us." Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #29

... 2naSalit Feb 2014 #47

K&R. You took a lot of abuse in that thread LittleBlue Feb 2014 #30

Manny please explain your explanation. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #33

What amazes me is that a thread on TPP obxhead Feb 2014 #34

Manny is a lightening rod for the self-righteous bullies. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #44

He is also one of them MattBaggins Feb 2014 #86

Then why dont you put him on ignore? Or do you seek an excuse to ridicule and mock? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #149

Would you tell Black people that if he insulted them? "Just put them on ignore" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #174

I believe Manny is the one who has posted numerous threads about the Squinch Feb 2014 #202

Clearly projection. While Manny may find some posts objectionable, ridicule and mocking are tools rhett o rick Feb 2014 #204

Clearly basic observation. And you made the rules about "quit yer damn complainin and just Squinch Feb 2014 #208

I am disappointed at your total misrepresentation of what I said. I guess it makes it easier rhett o rick Feb 2014 #211

You know you're going in circles, don't you? You tell people to put those they object to on Squinch Feb 2014 #212

Once again you change my words. I suggest that the bullies be put on ignore. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #218

but you're pissed off that Manny is mocked and ridiculed by DUers? and loved by Tea-Baggers? bettyellen Feb 2014 #214

so sit back and SHUT UP women....right? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #173

You're god damned right! obxhead Feb 2014 #200

So we should SHUT UP until....YOUR pet issue is addressed with the respect YOU think it VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #201

No I don't think you should shut up obxhead Feb 2014 #209

The Tiffany cover of that song was much more offensive than your thread. Orrex Feb 2014 #40

omg. you are right. yes. yes. I do think we found something more offensive. Proof here: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #43

Yup! That would be proof right there! 2naSalit Feb 2014 #51

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #56

I thought it was a great post, Manny, Blue_In_AK Feb 2014 #41

I thought so too. 2naSalit Feb 2014 #52

He who laughs last jtuck004 Feb 2014 #42

The problem is that we have a lot of faux liberals posting here. Closed-minded conservatives rhett o rick Feb 2014 #45

Risky asking African Americans to lighten up because it never occurred to him bettyellen Feb 2014 #140

So I am a "clueless ass"? I guess you are stepping forward to prove my point. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #148

If you post suggestions to people on topics you're bettyellen Feb 2014 #158

YES you are if YOU think that calling others NOT"true Liberals" for taking the opposing position VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #178

"true liberals".....do you really want to go down THAT road? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #176

"deconstructing everything in search of nefarious stuff" joshcryer Feb 2014 #55

I liked it. It was funny. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #62

and maybe YOU are wrong.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #179

right Chaco Dundee Feb 2014 #65

What we do need to protect the world from is ... 1000words Feb 2014 #71

I thought it was the Civil Rights Act of 1964? BainsBane Feb 2014 #78

I'm still not sure you are not a woman. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #74

That's an interesting thought. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2014 #81

I'm still not sure you are a troll Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #80

No worries. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #147

P.W.'s post needs extra props for the use of "seabeyond sockpuppet." Botany Feb 2014 #217

But it is unfortunate when people buy into the corporate stereotypes about what is and is not JDPriestly Feb 2014 #76

I'm just glad you didn't pull out the Big Ten Inch! adirondacker Feb 2014 #83

The purpose of the thread was to show your support, boston bean Feb 2014 #92

Manny, You're our DU pastor! defacto7 Feb 2014 #97

mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them JTFrog Feb 2014 #98

That song was written from the point of view of a twenty-something, not a fifty something. pnwmom Feb 2014 #100

If you say so! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #108

Deconstructing everything The Straight Story Feb 2014 #109

So, it was just as stupid and asinine as I thought? Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #110

+1 gollygee Feb 2014 #111

FWIW, I got it, loved it, shared it. OffWithTheirHeads Feb 2014 #117

Its a tough job being one of DU's High Priests of Liberalism. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #118

Or Elizabeth Warren. Squinch Feb 2014 #123

+1 JoePhilly Feb 2014 #127

I am guessing you think it's soo much easier to be a conservative. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #219

I'm often a fan of your OPs TBF Feb 2014 #119

so do you think that feminists have gone overboard in their control and domination of media and Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #121

Now now Warren JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #126

+1 RBStevens Feb 2014 #175

I hope you see how quickly now certain people will throw tar and feathers at you. Bonobo Feb 2014 #129

Over a web site? JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #130

If you have been here a decade or more, it becomes a part of your presence, your identity. Bonobo Feb 2014 #131

Hmmm JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #133

Thank you. Bonobo Feb 2014 #135

You feel this website is so important ... 1000words Feb 2014 #185

Prove where I have JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #192

It was alerted multiple times. 1000words Feb 2014 #194

Uh JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #195

Reacting to someone's behavior (as opposed to their exterior) bettyellen Feb 2014 #143

Manny I am a supporter of your politics but I'm a woman first. It is hurtful to me that people seaglass Feb 2014 #132

Yep, he decided to make GD more hostile with bettyellen Feb 2014 #141

+1 Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #181

But BAGELS! hootinholler Feb 2014 #137

I truly hope so or I'm gonna be in a world of trouble. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #142

I tried the gefilte fish Manny suggested and this Goyem is fine. Autumn Feb 2014 #145

154 replies, over 3,000 views for this thread Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #155

Some people in this thread posted or recced some of those threads Autumn Feb 2014 #157

Yep. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #162

Sorry, Manny..... Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #159

I'm with you Bobbie Jo. great white snark Feb 2014 #196

Someone here compared a thirty year old bettyellen Feb 2014 #199

It's either an extreme analogies, or those he seems unaware are bettyellen Feb 2014 #198

Most young ones learn to separate 'words in a song as fantasy, kind of like a cartoon princess... Tikki Feb 2014 #163

I'm sorry your post demonstrating cluelessness did not get the reaction you wanted. jeff47 Feb 2014 #164

This ^^^ nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #210

Meanwhile.... Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #171

Amid all these attacks on you Union Scribe Feb 2014 #183

I find it fascinating BainsBane Feb 2014 #184

Lol. Union Scribe Feb 2014 #189

It's an observation of behavior, of patterns BainsBane Feb 2014 #193

Hot DAMN Number23 Feb 2014 #216

+1 n/t JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #227

Gosh darned you! H2O Man Feb 2014 #190

Well... It got high praise on the usual right wing web sites that watch DU Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #191

Really?? Well, that's logical. Squinch Feb 2014 #203

I looked. OMG, he's their HERO! He must be so proud. Squinch Feb 2014 #206

And you just won the thread. Though it's so interesting that there is a loud small group Number23 Feb 2014 #215

I'm with Manny. K&R! Enthusiast Feb 2014 #205

As it was pointed out up thread.... Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #220

Why do you love the TPP? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #222

Nice try, Manny Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #223

So you're an enabler, not a "basher"? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #224

I'm not an enabler or a basher. I'm a Dem. Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #225

You see it's an issue that can divide DU treestar Feb 2014 #221

What I find kind of funny in this... NCTraveler Feb 2014 #228