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malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
15. Been on my list awhile, but haven't gotten to it.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

Know it from reviews, word-of-mouth, etc.

You optimists may be right. But I am a cynical bugger. In every walk of life, there are far more talented and able people for a position than there are positions. Some of the best musicians I know, e.g., never got a recording gig. And sports are no exception, although there are those who will tell you that owners/managers whatever are only interested in winning at all costs.

Take Branch Rickey, for example, and an apposite one in this case. He was a heavy-duty Christian and teetotaler. There is an anecdote about him and Durocher that Bill James related in one of his books. Durocher found that giving a certain pitcher a belt of whisky before the game improved the guy's performance greatly. But when Rickey found out about it, he told Leo that the guy "would never play for Brooklyn again." Yet at the same time, as we know, it was Rickey who opened up the floodgates for black talent to play ball.

Owners can be weird, and they have the money to indulge that wierdety as they will.

-- Mal

I'd say that since he's confident enough in himself to the point he feels he can come out madokie Feb 2014 #1
It will be interesting to see what this does to his draft standing. malthaussen Feb 2014 #2
I agree... clarice Feb 2014 #3
I guess we'll see won't we madokie Feb 2014 #4
But his self-worth is irrelevant to how others might see his worth... malthaussen Feb 2014 #5
You can make an argument though that a confident player is more likely to be a winning player el_bryanto Feb 2014 #11
Sure, you can make that argument. malthaussen Feb 2014 #13
Did you see Moneyball? or read it? Interesting book el_bryanto Feb 2014 #14
Been on my list awhile, but haven't gotten to it. malthaussen Feb 2014 #15
There will be the mother of all media storms if this kid doesn't get drafted. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #38
How he plays yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #9
With his confidence in himself madokie Feb 2014 #10
Such Wisdom you have yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #18
we know how you feel about gays CreekDog Feb 2014 #6
It would really tickle me... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #8
Well, I guess you dont know as much as you thought... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #23
I know you posted a thread saying there are negatives associated with signing a gay player who's out CreekDog Feb 2014 #24
There are multiple potential negatives associated with it... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #25
but all those things you mention could apply to a straight player CreekDog Feb 2014 #32
Wow... You really do think that... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #34
some people don't like to be around Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or Baptists, or atheists CreekDog Feb 2014 #36
Remember what I said about the big boy table... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #37
It sounds like the subject makes you uncomfortable CreekDog Feb 2014 #40
1) You're stealing my lines... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #41
so it sounds like you would have been against black players entering professional sports CreekDog Feb 2014 #42
I know .. I know... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #43
i'm surprised you haven't talked about the "shower" issue CreekDog Feb 2014 #44
Why dont you enlighten the rest of the room... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #46
in your line of work, do you see gays as a negative? CreekDog Feb 2014 #7
you mean like if he's good enough to help them win the Super Bowl? uh yeah. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #12
gays coming out in the military didn't harm the military CreekDog Feb 2014 #16
Still waiting... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #20
Yes, absolutely...but... Chan790 Feb 2014 #17
Good breakdown... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #19
if his draft position drops as a result of him coming out, the NFL should fix that CreekDog Feb 2014 #22
Unless we assume some front office personnel are also Gay. Motown_Johnny Feb 2014 #45
49ers have 11 picks in the draft. karadax Feb 2014 #21
Meh. I don't like the symbolism. Gay people are everywhere; not just in SF. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #28
If (and only if) he plays well, hells yeah. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2014 #26
If he's picked and he's not really, really good justiceischeap Feb 2014 #27
Only by those ignorant Ruby the Liberal Feb 2014 #29
It's the ignorant people that concern me and seem to have the biggest mouthpiece justiceischeap Feb 2014 #31
I think that's a good explanation... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #30
I like the endorsements side of it. He's charming, good looking and comes across well to cameras. libdem4life Feb 2014 #39
The benefits will be based on his game play. dilby Feb 2014 #33
Assuming that his game translates well to the NFL, Maedhros Feb 2014 #35
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