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Heidi

(58,237 posts)
171. Thank you, MrS.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:58 AM
Feb 2014

That this needs to be explained to so-called progressives is incredible, but thank you for stepping up with this explanation.

I will add, for those DUers who insist on defending fried chicken and watermelon as a perfectly appropriate way to acknowledge black history: Your insensitivity--even worse, your doubling down--makes DU suck.

I've lived all over America newfie11 Feb 2014 #1
How soon people forget Fuzzy Zoeller. MADem Feb 2014 #8
Nah, I remember it well. malthaussen Feb 2014 #147
I think Fuzzy wuzza racist, myself. MADem Feb 2014 #187
Celebrate nothing yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #20
I've known about that since I was a little boy. Rex Feb 2014 #45
I moved a lot, my dad was an IBEW electrician newfie11 Feb 2014 #99
Consider yourself lucky then. Rex Feb 2014 #111
Or super-sheltered, with no access to television or even books... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #114
Super sheltered lol newfie11 Feb 2014 #142
I had the "advantage" of living in the North, and even I am familiar with this stereotype. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #143
Ya know I'm thinking your name fits. Nt newfie11 Feb 2014 #145
You know, I'm thinking we can keep it to the topic at hand instead of throwing insults. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #146
I grew up in Virginia and heard many fried chicken and watermelon jokes about black people arcane1 Feb 2014 #94
I also lived in VA ( northern VA) newfie11 Feb 2014 #103
You're definitely lucky. I was born & raised in Richmond arcane1 Feb 2014 #128
I'm sure your right newfie11 Feb 2014 #137
It plays to old, old stereotypes.Didn't know it was in Birth of a Nation--it no doubt existed before Hekate Feb 2014 #2
I don't really understand this Major Nikon Feb 2014 #3
As somehow who grew up in the South, Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #10
Its not the food itself pschoeb Feb 2014 #14
Just because you don't understand why it does, doesn't mean it doesn't. Iggo Feb 2014 #27
I've never heard anyone say that sort of thing Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #32
Then it never happened. Iggo Feb 2014 #46
So, because you never experienced this directly - it must not exist? Rex Feb 2014 #47
There might be 6 billion people on this planet, Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #154
Try this - type watermelon and fried chicken into google, hit search, then click on images. whopis01 Feb 2014 #138
you will not understand this 1960's cover from Ike and Tina Turner either then! lunasun Feb 2014 #158
Oh, I understand that cover, all right Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #169
Here--let Dave explain it to you. I mean, come on--no one can be that obtuse. MADem Feb 2014 #188
I knew this at 5. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #84
it's a very common racist thing used against blacks JI7 Feb 2014 #4
If the school wanted to celebrate madaboutharry Feb 2014 #5
Probably a good way to cover ones ass. In my hometown in N. Florida, Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #12
Savannah HockeyMom Feb 2014 #28
Just this morning, the Mexican-American lady next Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #80
were you hung over? TexasProgresive Feb 2014 #121
No, but I've taken the cure before! Mine can be ordered with pig's feet. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #126
MMMmmm How about some tripas TexasProgresive Feb 2014 #131
Indeed. My Mom bought sacks of stewing hen gizzards Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #149
To me it's all included in a category I've always heard and referred to as "Soul Food" notadmblnd Feb 2014 #100
Better yet, pay local African American owned/managed restaurants Jamastiene Feb 2014 #107
See, that would have been a great idea. cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #213
If they really wanted a authentic African American meal TexasProgresive Feb 2014 #6
I can't think of too many things that bridge cultural gaps better than cuisine Major Nikon Feb 2014 #16
Yes,something is wrong with that picture. Go Vols Feb 2014 #152
Mmmm, collards and sweet potato pie! polichick Feb 2014 #51
Picky-picky I notice you did not go for the whole menu. TexasProgresive Feb 2014 #52
Yeah, no thanks. :) polichick Feb 2014 #54
If they'd served chitterlings and collards, mainer Feb 2014 #63
Actually, the message might be to ASK a question. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #83
What should they have served? mainer Feb 2014 #110
They should have served "lunch." ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #112
So nothing that would in any way relate to the event being celebrated? mainer Feb 2014 #115
Is pig and poi related to Hawaiian's being lazy, shiftless, good-for-nothings? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #117
Well, I'm learning how angry people are about fried chicken mainer Feb 2014 #118
I believe you are being deliberately obtuse and disingenuous. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #120
I just admitted I'm getting an education here mainer Feb 2014 #122
You listed quite a few foods in another post. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #123
Back when they cooked real food in school Go Vols Feb 2014 #157
Just don't ask me to cook the chitlins. X_Digger Feb 2014 #156
Thank you. n/t cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #7
This pasty-white Irish-American LOVES fried chicken! Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #9
I guess there's no way to include Soul Food in a school observance of Black History Month MNBrewer Feb 2014 #11
Try here. antiquie Feb 2014 #29
Fried chicken is on their suggested menus! mainer Feb 2014 #67
What if I add dry white toast and a coke to the order? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #72
I think it works this way: What makes chicken and watermelon racist depends on who cooks it..... marble falls Feb 2014 #13
Do y'all really think we just make this shit up so we can whine about something? M0rpheus Feb 2014 #17
Not what I said. Racism is as bad in this country as it ever was. I thought it was going away. It .. marble falls Feb 2014 #18
I apologize. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #22
I know what you mean. We need to be pay attention, something I started do fail at until the last ... marble falls Feb 2014 #24
Satd the best way mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2014 #57
Not saying there wasn't a racist version in 1916 Fastcars Feb 2014 #41
Let me help ya there... M0rpheus Feb 2014 #42
My apologies.... Fastcars Feb 2014 #70
No apologies needed. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #79
Thanks for the enlightenment. I just learned a lot about the background of the watermelon seaglass Feb 2014 #58
Thank you! gollygee Feb 2014 #75
These foods have a history fasttense Feb 2014 #15
Very good opinion. marble falls Feb 2014 #19
All foods are ethnic and have a history in America Drahthaardogs Feb 2014 #25
I think it's time to get past this. Fried chicken is too good not to just enjoy. badtoworse Feb 2014 #21
Wanda Sykes, the comedian has a bit about black people and watermelon woolldog Feb 2014 #39
She's a scream but I have mixed feelings about the skit badtoworse Feb 2014 #55
hmmm....the way I see it woolldog Feb 2014 #78
That's the way I took the routine. Sykes is phenomenal. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #129
Would fried rice and wonton be considered racist mainer Feb 2014 #23
That would really depend on which asian population's history you were celebrating. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #37
So what if it was ramen on tuesday, lumpia on wednesday mainer Feb 2014 #59
Can't wait for Thursday. Pho is good stuff! But anyway... M0rpheus Feb 2014 #81
OK, I do see your point mainer Feb 2014 #104
That is exactly, the issue here. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #108
please, no kimchi.. dionysus Feb 2014 #62
Many school cafeterias already have kimchi on the condiments table mainer Feb 2014 #65
ewwww... dionysus Feb 2014 #73
I'm thinking the real question is SheilaT Feb 2014 #26
That has been my "burning question" throughout the whole dust up. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #50
Now that something to explode some teaheads. TexasProgresive Feb 2014 #125
Fried chicken and watermelon were summer picnic favorites FarCenter Feb 2014 #30
what silly shit people waist their brains thinking about. GeorgeGist Feb 2014 #31
I love fried chicken and watermelon, LWolf Feb 2014 #33
Your explanation is backwards, in my opinion. Fawke Em Feb 2014 #40
It's not an explanation of anything. LWolf Feb 2014 #43
Thank you for the history lesson! hedgehog Feb 2014 #34
Every month should be black history month. roody Feb 2014 #35
"Everybody" loves fried chicken DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #36
That meal simply sounds "Southern" to me. Fawke Em Feb 2014 #38
+1 Go Vols Feb 2014 #159
Out of all Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #44
You know who stereotypically LOVE watermelon? The Chinese mainer Feb 2014 #60
And yet, you don't see depictions of the chinese loving watermelon in the US... M0rpheus Feb 2014 #106
Expressing yourself about issues like this poses difficulties. bigmonkey Feb 2014 #48
Manufactured outrage. goldent Feb 2014 #49
here is why this was a racist thing to propose lapfog_1 Feb 2014 #53
When is that from? badtoworse Feb 2014 #56
30s or 40s looney tunes is my guess. dionysus Feb 2014 #64
I doubt it's aired in decades. Time to let it go. badtoworse Feb 2014 #109
You're right, those stopped airing decades ago, and yet we get new digital versions. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #116
Or this... this happened a month ago... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #119
Exactly. It's not as if the stereotype has gone anywhere. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #127
As long as it continues to be a hot button, some "people" will continue to push it. badtoworse Feb 2014 #150
I don't have another 50 years to ignore. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #151
The only thing you have any control over is how you react to it. badtoworse Feb 2014 #181
There are something like 40 million African Americans in the US gollygee Feb 2014 #191
That's not what I said. Reread the thread. badtoworse Feb 2014 #192
What I read gollygee Feb 2014 #193
That's your interpretation. badtoworse Feb 2014 #194
No doubt ... i am wondering about the mental gymnastics those denying ... etherealtruth Feb 2014 #85
There are better examples Major Nikon Feb 2014 #165
It doesn't matter what they served mainer Feb 2014 #61
You're just determined not to learn a damned thing. M0rpheus Feb 2014 #96
next month is March, and I'm Irish, yorgatron Feb 2014 #66
That makes you racist against yourself. mainer Feb 2014 #69
I thought the national dish was a potato & a sixpack. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #133
it's such a stupid and outdated stereo type by now, i bet the racists making those jokes eat plenty dionysus Feb 2014 #68
So is this "soul-food advisor" website racist? mainer Feb 2014 #71
I really find your reaction to this thread fascinating. MrScorpio Feb 2014 #82
No, I'm not angry, just very sad that the cafeteria people got slammed mainer Feb 2014 #105
because of a film almost nobody saw? hfojvt Feb 2014 #74
Yes, it is because of the way that some people think now MrScorpio Feb 2014 #89
I had to google it hfojvt Feb 2014 #93
You weren't aware that Aunt Jemima was black? MrScorpio Feb 2014 #101
Well done MrScorpio well done JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #140
no one? hfojvt Feb 2014 #170
Oh fiddle dee! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #179
that was kinda my point hfojvt Feb 2014 #168
Well, it seems to me that you are bothered when people are offended about these things MrScorpio Feb 2014 #172
Ditto this JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #178
Just butting in here to say cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #214
Fried Chicken and Watermelon are two of my favorite foods. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #76
it would behoove you handmade34 Feb 2014 #186
I think you misunderstood my point. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #204
An example of why fried chicken is racist... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #77
Why it most certainly is not racist: KittyWampus Feb 2014 #95
Unless you're black... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #98
Thanks. bravenak Feb 2014 #175
... TeeYiYi Feb 2014 #210
After reading so many of the responses in this thread (well, "I" like watermelon, too), ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #86
It is both shocking and amazing to read through this thread etherealtruth Feb 2014 #88
It's almost unbelievable. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #90
I wish I could say I was shocked or amazed etherealtruth Feb 2014 #92
Maybe it's time to outgrow some of your own preconceived notions about what is racist KittyWampus Feb 2014 #97
Maybe you should be a bit more sensitive to other races... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #102
Wtf uponit7771 Feb 2014 #166
I don't think you know the background of soul food. bravenak Feb 2014 #176
+1 redqueen Feb 2014 #135
+1 fishwax Feb 2014 #148
Response by Carondelet HS Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #87
Just a few images to remind folks - Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #91
Breathtaking in their... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #134
I remember that stuff... TreasonousBastard Feb 2014 #164
Having lived for many years in Hawaii mainer Feb 2014 #113
Google "obama watermelon" and check out the images pinboy3niner Feb 2014 #124
To me it's really simple steve2470 Feb 2014 #130
+1 gollygee Feb 2014 #132
Indeed. It's not very complicated BainsBane Feb 2014 #136
Exactly. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. (nt) scarletwoman Feb 2014 #160
+1 cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #215
Does the race of the cook matter? mainer Feb 2014 #139
Check out post 91 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #141
Mr Scorpio JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #144
To tell you the truth... MrScorpio Feb 2014 #155
That this needs explaining Matariki Feb 2014 #153
hey Diane Fedele, didn’t understand the charges of racism either............ lunasun Feb 2014 #161
Oh, for fuck's sake! And I've been seeing the watermelon imagery regarding the White House garden freshwest Feb 2014 #173
did not want to post this- sorry if offensive- but all these people on this thread lunasun Feb 2014 #209
Thanks for sharing this. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #162
Thank you for this thread. scarletwoman Feb 2014 #163
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2014 #167
Thank you, MrS. Heidi Feb 2014 #171
+1 freshwest Feb 2014 #174
+1 In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #183
+1000 JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #195
Great thread. bravenak Feb 2014 #177
So what is your opinion of African American business owners who open "Soul Food restaurants" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #180
Again, it's not the food, it's the stereotyping... MrScorpio Feb 2014 #182
But do you think the owners of said restaurants are playing to a stereotype? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #184
The dishes are about as stereotypical as you can get. MrScorpio Feb 2014 #190
You rather deftly avoided my main question again. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #200
Context is everything. MrScorpio Feb 2014 #212
The watermelon really was out of left field ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #217
Some of the responses surrounding this issue are just jaw dropping. demmiblue Feb 2014 #185
SMH Mr Dixon Feb 2014 #189
MrScorpio, non-black DUers truly DON'T get it mainer Feb 2014 #196
I can't speak for MrScorpio JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #198
I could go into detail on why I think this is happening MrScorpio Feb 2014 #216
An obvious JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #197
That would be nice. bravenak Feb 2014 #203
I've lived in the South my entire life and had never heard about the watermelon thing... Hosnon Feb 2014 #199
Thanks for the thread, Mr. Scorpio. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #201
Yup. It's not the food. It's the stereotype. MineralMan Feb 2014 #202
Ahem JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #205
"I can't wait until St. Patrick's Day. Turn about is fair play." ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #206
Who me? Little old me? Fiddle Dee! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #207
Why would I alert? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #208
someone up-thread mentioned chitlins ("chitterlings") CitizenLeft Feb 2014 #211
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