I read the filing. (Reply #9) - Democratic Underground

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:42 PM

Fawke Em (11,366 posts)

9. I read the filing.

And, No 5 of the non-statuatory aggravating factors gave me pause.

It's said, "Shows Lack of Remorse."

Correct me here, but didn't Dzhokhar Tsarnaev plead "not guilty?" As such, he is currently saying he did NOT commit the crime for which he is accused; therefore, how can he feel remorse for something he didn't do?

Which brings me to the second point: reporters, social media, the average citizens have pretty much convicted this guy. When I was reporting on crime, the suspect was, well, a suspect until he either entered a plea or was found guilty by a jury of his peers. All I see on my Twitter feed regarding this issue is how he should be bombed or burned or shot - not a word about the fact that he's not actually been found guilty, yet.

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131 replies	Author	Time	Post
Holder to Boston: #%^* you. [View all]	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	OP
Holder has been one of the worst attorney generals	quinnox	Jan 2014	#1
I strongly disagree. He's been one of the best. EOP nt	kelliekat44	Jan 2014	#4
Exactly what has Holder done well?	DefenseLawyer	Jan 2014	#6
Let me guess : you're not a black voter in	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#20
Okay...kudos...I literally laughed out loud!	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#32
you totally	JustAnotherGen	Jan 2014	#78
There are times when you piss me off, and there are times when I want to hug you.	11 Bravo	Jan 2014	#105
suing the racist Texas Lege.	arely staircase	Jan 2014	#38
Lots of stuff...	nikto	Jan 2014	#68
Bingo.	Scuba	Jan 2014	#72
Holder has handled civil rights and voting rights matters very well.	Laelth	Jan 2014	#80
spot on! this, this, this.	cali	Jan 2014	#81
Good morning, cali.	Laelth	Jan 2014	#87
Citibank and Goldman Sachs agree with you	KeepItReal	Jan 2014	#21
The old slap on the wrist	warrant46	Feb 2014	#124
Not really.	gLibDem	Jan 2014	#63
Are ... are you serious ...?	DragonBorn	Jan 2014	#93
Yes, what a disappointment he has been! To say the least ...	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#58
Wrong.	bravenak	Jan 2014	#103
Go give "Third Way Manny" a wedgie	1000words	Jan 2014	#2
Agreed! He should be put away for life.	hrmjustin	Jan 2014	#3
I actually think he should be found guilty, first. eom	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#10
I agree but I think he did it.	hrmjustin	Jan 2014	#12
I just have to say I don't know.	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#16
Good points. we will just have to see how it unfolds.	hrmjustin	Jan 2014	#18
He said fuck you to the city, the state and the region.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#5
Does it make you sick to your soul? nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#13
I think it is shameful and disgusting.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#31
Meh. I oppose the death penalty as a policy,	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#34
Not even the bombing itself?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#35
"Sick To My Soul" Is A Reference To An OP By WilliamPitt Yesterday	Liberal_Dog	Jan 2014	#102
At least one victims' parents asked for the DP	MH1	Jan 2014	#7
So if a victim's family wants him drawn and quartered?	DefenseLawyer	Jan 2014	#8
I agree with you on that, which is why,	MH1	Jan 2014	#14
I read the filing.	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#9
Maybe he doesn't show sympathy for the victims...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#37
How would anyone know, though, is my point?	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#43
I suppose he has had Psychiatrists or others who could interview him...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#49
The jury will find out. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#56
Catch 22	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#42
Exactly my point.	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#48
And pleading the fifth means your guilty, too, right?	gLibDem	Jan 2014	#65
Sorry, I just saw this.	Fawke Em	Feb 2014	#115
I like your screen name.	gLibDem	Feb 2014	#118
More angsty melodrama. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#11
Wow ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2014	#17
Apparently Derpitious Soul Sickness	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#19
Ahhh Will Gave You A Sad	HangOnKids	Jan 2014	#70
Are you saying ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2014	#74
A real question	BrotherIvan	Jan 2014	#26
Speaking for myself only, I generally oppose the death penalty but I adamantly	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#47
I don't support the death penalty.	gLibDem	Jan 2014	#66
None of the three ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2014	#75
Spinal Tap check.	Desert805	Jan 2014	#23
Being against the death penalty is now "angsty"?	BrotherIvan	Jan 2014	#24
No, claiming that Eric Holder insulted	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#29
"People pounding nails through their own palms."	Capt. Obvious	Jan 2014	#100
Can you ever, ever address the issues?	morningfog	Jan 2014	#33
This discussion isn't about the issue,	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#36
You are still focusing on the poster.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#44
The propriety has nothing to do with public opinion in Boston.	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#46
I appreciate you discussing the issue. Conversations are much more interesting this way.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#51
He still has to use the Boston jury pool	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#53
The full jury pool will likely be against DP,	morningfog	Jan 2014	#54
Medical marijuana shouldn't be prosecuted anywhere.	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#55
What about recreational marijuana?	morningfog	Jan 2014	#57
Prosecutors have vast discretion beyond	geek tragedy	Jan 2014	#59
Since when do the victims of crime get a say in sentencing?	X_Digger	Jan 2014	#15
Happens a lot	davidn3600	Jan 2014	#97
I bet you have no clue how it's decided.	DevonRex	Jan 2014	#22
I know how it's decided and took issue with one point of it above.	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#25
Then yuo should print the formula.	DevonRex	Jan 2014	#27
Could you do us a favor?	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#39
Find it yourself.	DevonRex	Jan 2014	#40
I looked.	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#41
It doesn't exist. It is very much decided on emotion.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#45
Got that? It doesn't exist.	cali	Jan 2014	#85
Here is how it works:	morningfog	Jan 2014	#50
They will make him a martyr.	lpbk2713	Jan 2014	#28
I read an article earlier today	Warpy	Jan 2014	#30
I'm usually against capital punishment....	DrewFlorida	Jan 2014	#52
So is my husband.	Fawke Em	Jan 2014	#60
you ar not against capital punishment. period. at all. so don't claim it.	cali	Jan 2014	#83
No not, "JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE", that's your exageration.	DrewFlorida	Jan 2014	#89
no, it's not an exaggeration. Everyone who supports the DP has their criteria for it- just	cali	Jan 2014	#90
"And honestly, one poster on DU shouldn't make you did in" what is that supposed to mean?	DrewFlorida	Jan 2014	#91
it's a typo- did should have been "dig"- as in dig in.	cali	Jan 2014	#92
I think that authoritarians love the death penalty. It's all about retribution. Nancy Grace will	rhett o rick	Jan 2014	#61
Or maybe Holder supports the death penalty.	gLibDem	Jan 2014	#62
Holder opposes the death penalty.	former9thward	Jan 2014	#110
Apparently not as he is seeking the death penalty.	gLibDem	Jan 2014	#114
I abhor the death penalty.	TheMathieu	Jan 2014	#64
Don't you know the goal of the first black AG is to prove he can be as good as a white Republican?	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2014	#67
What does that mean?	Bobbie Jo	Jan 2014	#79
There is a long time meme that it's easier to slip in the conservative agenda under Dems.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2014	#94
Ok	Bobbie Jo	Jan 2014	#108
Really? It's just like the OTHER meme out there applies to Obama too....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2014	#109
Again...	Bobbie Jo	Jan 2014	#111
He has to be a badass or Republicans will attack him....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2014	#113
Oh, is that why he called for federal oversight of stop-and-frisk in NY?	BeyondGeography	Jan 2014	#82
Look how Republicans are STILL railing about "Fast and Furious"....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2014	#95
We are murdering Mr. Tzarhnaev	DemocraticWing	Jan 2014	#69
I oppose the death penalty, and I insist on a fair trial	Eleanors38	Jan 2014	#71
I was pretty sure this would be the decision. Cowardly as far as I am concerned. The	seaglass	Jan 2014	#73
Pretty much expected though, politically.	Blue_Adept	Jan 2014	#76
Thank you.	Fawke Em	Feb 2014	#116
.	randome	Jan 2014	#77
Just because the DP is on the table doesn't mean it's going to happen	lapislzi	Jan 2014	#84
He can plea deal for life w/o parole in prison	aikoaiko	Jan 2014	#86
Not necessarily. That may not be on the table.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#101
Maybe not.	aikoaiko	Jan 2014	#104
What if he's not guilty?	Fawke Em	Feb 2014	#117
there is the theory that Holder favored the DP only to silence him	soundsgreat	Feb 2014	#119
Then he can defend himself at trial.	aikoaiko	Feb 2014	#121
You Better Believe It!!! nt	msanthrope	Jan 2014	#88
snort	PeaceNikki	Jan 2014	#112
Exactly. n/t	FSogol	Feb 2014	#127
I imagine it would be a rather bizarre country that predicates its judicial sentencing on polling da	LanternWaste	Jan 2014	#96
Yeah, but people on the internet who don't live here want him killed	Capt. Obvious	Jan 2014	#98
To be honest, I think Carmen Ortiz is the driving force behind this. Not shocking	bullwinkle428	Jan 2014	#99
The attack occured in Boston, but it was not an attack on Boston.	JoePhilly	Jan 2014	#106
It's not something that goes up for a vote...	Lost_Count	Jan 2014	#107
But, it is something that is up to the descretion of the AG.	morningfog	Feb 2014	#122
In your opinion...	Lost_Count	Feb 2014	#123
My opinion shared by the majority of nations in the world	morningfog	Feb 2014	#125
Oh...	Lost_Count	Feb 2014	#126
LOL.	morningfog	Feb 2014	#128
It's just a very convenient standard...	Lost_Count	Feb 2014	#130
Although you aren't here in good faith, I'll respond with this:	morningfog	Feb 2014	#131
Federal Court, federal law applies	treestar	Feb 2014	#120
...and you hate holder too!?!... lol... ok Would this be a post if it was about gay marriage and	uponit7771	Feb 2014	#129

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