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If the revelation of spying is apt to start a war DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #1
My question, exactly n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #2
Are you okay with the fact that he is dumping sheshe2 Jan 2014 #16
I put a question out there. You replied with a different question. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #21
I'll answer it. It is highly probable that Indonesia knew the Aussies would try, and likely, succeed okaawhatever Jan 2014 #27
Well, you started to answer, but you got sidetracked and blamed me for refugees' woes DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #30
That's the question I'd love to have answered in this thread Aerows Jan 2014 #31
No one seems to want to answer it. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #34
No, I did answer. It's the revelation itself. I don't buy the meme that the issue was the spying okaawhatever Jan 2014 #53
I would like to hear an answer to that also. n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #58
Well when you don't like the answer doesn't mean it wasn't answered... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #122
Ahhh . . . why is Aussie/Indonesia covert operations our business? brush Jan 2014 #154
but that's not what's being discussed DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #158
Huh? brush Jan 2014 #184
If no one is shocked, if everyone knew, then your reason for warfare just evaporated. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #218
Guess you haven't kept up with the latest on the Aussie/Indonesia situation. nt brush Jan 2014 #252
Your question: JDPriestly Jan 2014 #309
It's not a nonsensical claim. Igel Jan 2014 #216
If someone starts a war to save face, that entity is responsible for the war. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #219
This is the most eloquent defense of this position I have seen in this thread TroglodyteScholar Jan 2014 #245
A betrayed wife has the choice to stay with her husband or leave him. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #312
If Indonesia or Australia claimed to be starting a war over this, it is m JDPriestly Jan 2014 #307
It seem like Manning and Snowden were very similar yet people here defend Manning and attack Snowden Travis_0004 Jan 2014 #66
Manning stayed and faced the charges. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #76
You showed no respect for Manning when she was in the news, prior to conviction. Marr Jan 2014 #91
Seriously Marr? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #102
So where are the links that you have accused me of defaming Manning? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #117
So you are blatantly ignoring the content and simply looking at the veneer. cui bono Jan 2014 #295
Ah, who is really defending their idol... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #297
I have no idol. I am against unconstitutionalNSA domestic spying. cui bono Jan 2014 #299
LOL, yes, then his ass would be in jail already. Biased much? n-t Logical Jan 2014 #116
yep. I'm fine with it. since you asked. I'm less fine with your beloved NSA cali Jan 2014 #212
Sorry cali... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #244
Citation please for how Snowden is "dumping these documents willy nilly". cui bono Jan 2014 #290
Because 1) he could not have just walked up to a member of JDPriestly Jan 2014 #305
It's not an either/or question. -eom gcomeau Jan 2014 #50
I think its pretty naive iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #69
Every country has their own KT2000 Jan 2014 #75
I blame the revelation. Spying is a fact of life. All countries with the capability do it. pnwmom Jan 2014 #81
Exactly. I'm so sick of hearing that bullshit that 1awake Jan 2014 #83
So how will you ever learn just what was leaked to other countries? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #125
If a tree falls in a forest and...nt kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #134
the daily banter? grasswire Jan 2014 #3
Shh! Aerows Jan 2014 #9
You missed "liar" and "coward". [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #73
Snowden was unfriendly to his neighbors in Hawaii. QC Jan 2014 #100
Well you forgot to bring Greenwald into it. cui bono Jan 2014 #296
As Charles Pierce said, diplomacy is hard when you're stupid. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #4
Charles Pierce Aerows Jan 2014 #5
At the behest of the NSA? No pone else is claiming that. Australia has it's own spy agency and has okaawhatever Jan 2014 #32
The program that the OP and Pierce are referring to is an NSA program Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #98
"Five Eyes" Aerows Jan 2014 #186
Yes. But Stateroom is an NSA program eliciting the assistance of our "Five Eyes" partners. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #202
Libertarians are salivating at the thought of Snowden's revelations starting a war Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #6
Because Libertarians, Progressives Aerows Jan 2014 #10
Progressives love starting wars? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #13
You were the one discussing Aerows Jan 2014 #14
My post was specific to Libertarians Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #15
Oh, so YOU specifically are a Progressive? Please stand up and IDENTIFY in this thread :D n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #18
Nowehere did I say Progressives wanted to start a war Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #24
Ah ah ah Aerows Jan 2014 #25
You're a Progressive? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #26
Did I lose my credentials Aerows Jan 2014 #29
Based on your replies to me.... Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #33
I'm thrilled you recognize conservative behavior Aerows Jan 2014 #38
Yep....you definitely have it down Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #41
Oh, I will Aerows Jan 2014 #43
"I am a proud Progressive" Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #45
Are you a Progressive? Aerows Jan 2014 #46
LOL....you think I'm gonna play your conservative games? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #48
I think you knew Aerows Jan 2014 #52
You replied to me first, dear. Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #57
Oh, I think the point was made Aerows Jan 2014 #88
"I am a proud Progressive" Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #90
Interesting question Aerows Jan 2014 #92
That was the question I posed to you. Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #96
Well Aerows Jan 2014 #97
There are numerous people I've disagreed with, but I still remember their names Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #99
Okay Aerows Jan 2014 #103
You're the one who initially replied to me claiming I said Progressives love to start wars Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #104
And you also Aerows Jan 2014 #106
LOL. There you go again Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #107
Yes, well Aerows Jan 2014 #108
You really have a hard time understanding what people say Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #110
Well Aerows Jan 2014 #111
I usually do forget people who cannot engage in policy discussions Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #112
Alright Aerows Jan 2014 #113
You really need to stop twisting people's words Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #114
Have a good night n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #115
In the future, don't misrepresent what people say Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #193
Enough, you two brush Jan 2014 #172
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #214
Oh...look who's back from their timeout Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #215
Every country is spying on each other....that is not news at all... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #126
He certainly is front page news for the last week flamingdem Jan 2014 #17
I think he wants to come home very badly... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #19
It is winter over there flamingdem Jan 2014 #35
That is indeed food for thought, flamingdem. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #37
Imagine being in a Russian winter...unable to drink. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #59
He can't drink? flamingdem Jan 2014 #63
Comrade Eddie claims adult-onset epilepsy. The number one cause of that is alcoholism. msanthrope Jan 2014 #67
A Bill Frist-style remote diagnosis. What part of law school covers medical diagnoses? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #124
Dude...Comrade Eddie's PR team spoke openly about his illness until they msanthrope Jan 2014 #204
Oh, yes he can. The results aren't pretty, though. He's there for the free-dumbs. BTW, freshwest Jan 2014 #269
LOL. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #121
Wodka or Gin? flamingdem Jan 2014 #127
Wodka that is kept in the freezer! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #131
You guys are funny, in a sad sort of way. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #156
+1 Phlem Jan 2014 #231
So. He controls the news, does he? Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #23
You must be a Libertarian Aerows Jan 2014 #28
and that is the modern day conservative behavior. nt neverforget Jan 2014 #77
Guess who else calls themselves "Progressive"? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #129
oh myyyyy... Hillary considers herself a progressive... Whisp Jan 2014 #147
or perhaps the term Progressive is meaningless... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #151
Yeh, some Progressives want Instant Gratification Whisp Jan 2014 #152
If I remember it correctly...it was Hillary using it...the first time I heard it! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #153
Well, she did work with them (Goldman Sachs) AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #274
Obama is not much like the Clintons Whisp Jan 2014 #275
Well, he is definitely to their right politically AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #279
to their right? Whisp Jan 2014 #280
Very much so AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #291
Of course he's to the right of the Clintons. Why do you think he isn't? n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #298
lol Whisp Jan 2014 #308
TPP, escalation of BushCo's domestic spying, banksters in the WH.... cui bono Jan 2014 #313
Tell me about it. Phlem Jan 2014 #232
Well, this story came back up because the Australian FM said she spies 'for human freedom' muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #40
thank you for that distinction. nt grasswire Jan 2014 #227
...is a monumentally stupid thing to assert. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #161
Libertarians want chaos and disorder Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #191
Where are you getting your ideas about Libertarian beliefs/desires? n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #301
From those same Libertarian dumbasses. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #318
Non-answer, but thanks for playing. cui bono Jan 2014 #319
You seem awfully defensive when it comes to me going after libertarians..... Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #320
Not at all. But you keep avoiding answering my questions, and now you're trying to deflect. cui bono Jan 2014 #321
Yep...very very defensive Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #322
Really? How so? And why are you avoiding answering a simple question? cui bono Jan 2014 #331
Many people here use the word "libertarian' QC Jan 2014 #205
That's not the only similarity to teabaggers. But I disagree with you on using ignore. cui bono Jan 2014 #332
But in secret she has a thing for Snowden. Phlem Jan 2014 #234
Yes, there or here. All the better to install their fascist Koch brothers dystopia. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #271
What? Libertarians want war? Since when? Links please. n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #300
LOL Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #323
See, you have absolutely no answer to that. Why do you bother to post here? cui bono Jan 2014 #324
I touched a nerve, eh? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #325
No, you didn't. That's another little ploy people like you like to use. I'm simply trying to get cui bono Jan 2014 #326
Oh yes I did. It's quite obvious my statement about libertarians has you grinding your teeth Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #327
Yes you did what? Answer my question? Nope. What is this the 5th time you are avoiding it? cui bono Jan 2014 #328
So very defensive of libertarians. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #329
How so? And why do you refuse to answer a simple question? Where you get your info? cui bono Jan 2014 #330
Perhaps Australia shouldn't have been committing illegal acts of espionage LittleBlue Jan 2014 #7
Which Australian law makes the actions illegal?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #12
International laws make it illegal LittleBlue Jan 2014 #20
Hardly Egnever Jan 2014 #123
since when is a "covenant" a law? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #132
How does apply in cases of foreign intelligence? Adrahil Jan 2014 #209
Illegal? Who says so? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #130
Thanks for that. Phlem Jan 2014 #236
what's "reckless and ill-conceived" is the DSD tapping Yudhoyono's phone.... mike_c Jan 2014 #8
well, I learned something about the blogger grasswire Jan 2014 #229
Cesca lives in Hawaii? WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #246
hmmmmmmmm..... grasswire Jan 2014 #333
The Obama fan base is throwing everything at Snowden hoping something finally sticks. Broward Jan 2014 #11
Snowden needs no help from us.... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #160
Why do you call him Eddie? Are you his friend? I believe he goes by Edward. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #181
I think of him as Eddie Haskell on Leave it to Beaver~ sheshe2 Jan 2014 #183
Now I see why your thoughts are so deep on this subject. cui bono Jan 2014 #302
It is commonplace in criminal enterprises to blame the one who speaks too. Savannahmann Jan 2014 #22
This site is infested with a particularly insidious cadre of posters Maedhros Jan 2014 #78
Damn, that made me laugh mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #86
I can imagine these types interacting with one another: Maedhros Jan 2014 #89
It has indeed, Maedhros! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #182
Did you just make a post demonstrating the exact behavior I was mocking? [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #206
Yes. But since she used the :rofl: smiley she automatically wins the argument. cui bono Jan 2014 #303
Sorry, couldn't help it. Phlem Jan 2014 #237
"Revelations" do NOT "start wars". bvar22 Jan 2014 #36
What are you trying to do dampen the "lynch Snowden" movement? The conservatives among us rhett o rick Jan 2014 #175
And another Thank You bvarr22 Phlem Jan 2014 #240
The revelation is the problem, not the spying. WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #39
A dumping of the documents all over the world is the work of a hero! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #47
Documents were given by Snowden to two individuals (Greenwald and Poitras) Maedhros Jan 2014 #80
I'm pretty sure the answer to your question mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #93
So how do you know for a fact that China and Russia got nothing from the laptops? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #144
That makes...little or no sense.[n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #166
Seriously? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #169
This: Maedhros Jan 2014 #173
You made the claim. bvar22 Jan 2014 #217
What claim? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #251
So how do you know for a fact that China and Russia got anything from the laptops? AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #278
Oh let us be honest here... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #283
Your defense of blanket authoritarianism is duly noted AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #287
As is yours... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #289
I don't defend blanket authoritarianism AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #292
Good for you... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #293
Indeed, good for me AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #294
somehow judicious and GG should Not be in the same sentence. Whisp Jan 2014 #149
Really? So you can show that he has not been judicious? cui bono Jan 2014 #304
Hmmm... don;t think I agree with your use of "judicious." Adrahil Jan 2014 #210
I'm not an imperialist, so I'm not worried about the weakening of our international hegemony Maedhros Jan 2014 #211
First please don't put words in my mouth. Adrahil Jan 2014 #213
you really believe this? Phlem Jan 2014 #241
It's what I want, not what I think is immediately achievable. NT Adrahil Jan 2014 #247
and one person deciding for everyone else what should remain private....is the work of a "hero" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #135
More misinformation Talking Points posted by the defenders of the NSA. bvar22 Jan 2014 #220
Oh really? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #222
Please post links to support your claim. bvar22 Jan 2014 #223
Easy Peasy...see for yourself! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #224
And THAT thread has NOTHING to do with Snowden. bvar22 Jan 2014 #225
it doesn't? hahahaha... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #226
I smell something burning. bvar22 Jan 2014 #228
Uh no....best check your "hero worshipping status" indicator light VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #230
Oh silly bvar... can't you see VR just won the argument? cui bono Jan 2014 #306
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #257
go back to the library. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #258
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #260
I will miss you. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #261
10 internet points to anyone Aerows Jan 2014 #42
I'll raise you 10 for the first picture posted of Paul Revere. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #51
Isn't Sid the one that usually posts that? n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #54
As you know it's~ sheshe2 Jan 2014 #64
Didn't that person Aerows Jan 2014 #65
Thumbdrive has turned into flamingdem Jan 2014 #60
This is how the modern day Paul Revere gets his Kicks: Whisp Jan 2014 #235
You know that gets me going, gotta get up outta my flamingdem Jan 2014 #238
omg lol. you forgot the thumb drive stuck up his ass... Whisp Jan 2014 #233
See #53 above (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #61
So are we going to war with Australia? Or Indonesia? SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #44
War? Australia? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #56
I think we have already chosen sides .... MindMover Jan 2014 #70
Yes, plenty of opportunities in Aussieland. They've been hiring Americans since last year, IIRC. freshwest Jan 2014 #270
The Australian Spying That Might Start a War Fumesucker Jan 2014 #49
Not Widely Reported In The United States Was That We Were LIED Into A War With Iraq... WillyT Jan 2014 #55
This is why secrecy's so critical. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #68
Good Point... WillyT Jan 2014 #79
At least Snowden will get some attention. Turbineguy Jan 2014 #62
On the bonfire of the vanities of media. I keep thinking of that Bond flick with the Murdoch type freshwest Jan 2014 #273
zomg Snowden is going to kills us alllll! Union Scribe Jan 2014 #71
Good, bad or indifferent Politicub Jan 2014 #72
Hyperbolic bullshit. blackspade Jan 2014 #74
Simple remedy. Stop spying. Which is what all the kerfluffle is about, not Snowden's revelations. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #82
So all countries to cease the practice of espionage against other countries? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #84
I agree. Interesting to see a step towards peace. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #85
What would be the mechanism for enforcement? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #87
Well, if nobody's spying, we wouldn't. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #128
Yes, but is it possible to get all all countries in the world to stop spying? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #143
You don't. SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #145
Blamo HangOnKids Jan 2014 #196
Yeah like thats going to happen....good luck! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #136
Certainly won't happen if we allow the likes of the NSA to continue. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #138
is a woman is raped, and there is a person that witnesses it frwrfpos Jan 2014 #94
This excuse has been worn out for months. Yes we would report the crime, we would Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #105
but the crime continues and is supported by the likes of you and others that see no issue with it frwrfpos Jan 2014 #133
Based on your reasoning if you saw a crime of someone breaking in and raping someone you Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #140
If i witnessed a crime I would gather details and expose the criminals frwrfpos Jan 2014 #142
Did I say he had given anything to China or Russia? I said he went to Hong Kong and Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #157
then we both agree he has been falsely charged by the us government frwrfpos Jan 2014 #162
No, the investigators has determined he has stolen files resulting in charges of Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #163
the investigators work for the government that illegally and criminally spied on US citizens frwrfpos Jan 2014 #165
I have to tell you, your dog don't hunt. Just who does Snowden work? Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #168
Im so glad we agree that the NSA is corrupt to the core. frwrfpos Jan 2014 #177
What words did I post which said NSA is corrupt? I did not say nor do I think they are corrupt. Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #192
Obama Signs Whistleblower Protection Bill into Law sheshe2 Jan 2014 #176
Exactly, many have worked under a non disclosure, our education was a once a year review. Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #194
Obama Whistleblower Prosecutions Lead To Chilling Effect On Press cui bono Jan 2014 #310
false analogy.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #137
spying illegally on Americans is illegal. Rape is illegal frwrfpos Jan 2014 #139
I am appalled that you would have the audacity to compare Eddies leaking documents sheshe2 Jan 2014 #155
its called whistleblowing on criminal activity frwrfpos Jan 2014 #159
Actually no I am not concerned with pole dancing and boxes... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #164
dont know frwrfpos Jan 2014 #167
have you been here before? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #171
have you? frwrfpos Jan 2014 #174
not at all ... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #178
It Is clear she is HangOnKids Jan 2014 #197
Wrong... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #249
Because you say so? HangOnKids Jan 2014 #254
Since I know myself better than you, yes because I said so. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #255
Hysterical much? HangOnKids Jan 2014 #259
Hysterical much? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #263
Nice try. William769 Jan 2014 #264
Hey! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #276
Naw, I'm just giving some of my southern charm that I'm known to be famous for. William769 Jan 2014 #277
Eddie is not a "whistleblower".. Cha Jan 2014 #170
Go get 'em, Cha brush Jan 2014 #179
Excellent analysis, brush.. Cha Jan 2014 #180
More Eddie, huh. Reminds me of when Freeper types refer to the President by his middle name. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #185
Sorry, you don't like Edward Snowden being refered to as Eddie.. but, that Cha Jan 2014 #187
You work for the State Department now Cha? HangOnKids Jan 2014 #200
Results of jury review: D23MIURG23 Jan 2014 #267
Ha Ha Ha! HangOnKids Jan 2014 #268
Wow, a clean sweep. WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #286
That fits the definition, doesn't it? freshwest Jan 2014 #281
ES.. the venal Cha Jan 2014 #282
Hey, we didn't say it first. GG did. Truth will out. I'm not mad, just sad that this is what is now freshwest Jan 2014 #284
Of course he is a whistleblower. And he will always be a whistleblower in this case cui bono Jan 2014 #288
Authoritarians never, ever blame the authority. Marr Jan 2014 #95
So Marr...where are all those links sheshe2 Jan 2014 #250
Well, here's one that took about 1 minute to find. Marr Jan 2014 #256
about to watch Sotu...so this is fast... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #262
Ah yeah the poster that promoted that trash the Left website ThePeoplesView. neverforget Jan 2014 #265
Thank you for this invaluable information via Bob Cesca, she.. Cha Jan 2014 #101
Great Links! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #109
Loaded for bear! Cha Jan 2014 #148
Interesting thought treestar Jan 2014 #118
Unmitigated bullshit. Australia wants to scape goat Snowden for their impropriety. morningfog Jan 2014 #120
So it's revealing the wrongdoing that's the problem? That's bullshit. Scuba Jan 2014 #141
Responsible custody of sensitive information moondust Jan 2014 #146
As usual, the moment Snowden and leaking arises, defacto7 Jan 2014 #150
How much does HBGary pay you to spew this horseshit? backscatter712 Jan 2014 #188
Cute~ sheshe2 Jan 2014 #190
Just like back Cha Jan 2014 #199
It's more like, "How much ad money did The Daily Bullcrap make from obvious click bait?" Dash87 Jan 2014 #208
"You broke up my marriage, telling my wife I was fucking your wife" TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #189
Good analogy, except the consequence isn't near as drastic (nt) anti partisan Jan 2014 #198
The logic is the same regardless of scale. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #201
Not trying to criticize the logic. My bad. (nt) anti partisan Jan 2014 #203
I looked in Webster's for "grasping at straws" and came up with this article anti partisan Jan 2014 #195
A war? Really? Dash87 Jan 2014 #207
There will be no war AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #272
It's funny that those who condemn Daniel Ellsberg... WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #221
And it is the same people pushing the same FUD here over and over. Rex Jan 2014 #239
Well, I'll give them an "A" for persistence, but beyond that... WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #242
Well we became very skeptical under the BFEE years, while some came to love the BFEE years. Rex Jan 2014 #243
None of this is news to anyone that has stepped more than eight feet outside of the US border Number23 Jan 2014 #248
Thanks Number23... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #253
FYI the ruling party of Australia is conservative. neverforget Jan 2014 #266
FYI there is no "ruling" party in Australia Number23 Jan 2014 #285
Welcome to Politics 101 anti partisan Jan 2014 #311
If you're going to insert yourself into a conversation, you could at least keep up with it Number23 Jan 2014 #314
Blah blah blah. So what's your point? anti partisan Jan 2014 #315
Again, if you're going to LEAP ass first into a conversation, at least try to keep up with it Number23 Jan 2014 #316
You're not making a point, and then personally attacking to divert that question anti partisan Jan 2014 #317
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