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Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:42 AM Jan 2014

Plutonium from Fukushima is a global catastrophe. [View all]

In these images, the building containing Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant Reactor 3 explodes.
The thing ran on fuel rods that contain a mixture of plutonium and uranium oxide.

TEPCO has been lying from Day One. The company's boss continued his holiday driving tour the day of the disaster. On this side of the great ocean, the U.S. government has not done a very good job of keeping the public abreast of Fukushima and the dangers it represents. It fired Gregory Jaczko, the head of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, after he pointed out the emergency in public.

One important thing everyone should know is the incredible amounts of plutonium -- one of the most deadly elements known -- that have been introduced into the environment from Fukushima.

Here's some more of what everyone on DU and around the entire planet should know:


Guide of Good Practices for Occupational Radiological Protection in Plutonium Facilities


4.2.3 Characteristics of Plutonium Contamination

There are few characteristics of plutonium contamination that are unique. Plutonium
contamination may be in many physical and chemical forms. (See Section 2.0 for the many
potential sources of plutonium contamination from combustion products of a plutonium fire
to radiolytic products from long-term storage.) [font color="red"]The one characteristic that many believe is
unique to plutonium is its ability to migrate with no apparent motive force.[/font color]
Whether from
alpha recoil or some other mechanism, plutonium contamination, if not contained or
removed, will spread relatively rapidly throughout an area.

SOURCE (PDF file format): http://energy.gov/hss/downloads/doe-std-1128-98

Why I bring this is up: This is information about Fukushima and plutonium that people have a right to know, yet is what the press and governments of the United States and Japan apparently want people to forget. Thank goodness news and information aren't censored on DU.

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Ah c'mon Octafish. Cleita Jan 2014 #1
Thanks, Cleita. That's why I posted. Few who know are talking about Fukushima in public. Octafish Jan 2014 #3
Maybe when people start discovering they have polluted a whole food supply chain, they will Cleita Jan 2014 #6
I feel the same, Cleita! countryjake Jan 2014 #15
It was brought up on the Stephanie Miller radio show... Rockyj Jan 2014 #24
Why would the media lie? Octafish Jan 2014 #96
Stephanie Miller isn't all that smart. She means well, but she's not one to go to for info. cui bono Jan 2014 #97
we don't know what to do questionseverything Jan 2014 #60
More On Fukushima Unit 3, TEPCO Fails To Explain Levels Octafish Jan 2014 #134
Starfish dying in the NW Pacific antiquie Jan 2014 #2
No, plutonium isn't killing the starfish. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #5
Ok then ...we won't worry about it. Thanks. L0oniX Jan 2014 #27
On this you should not nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #39
Oh ...my auto sarc tag isn't working again. My bad. L0oniX Jan 2014 #42
Thank you for pointing that out, antiquie. We need more information. Octafish Jan 2014 #7
I worry about my grandkids. antiquie Jan 2014 #8
That's the kicker, isn't it? Whisp Jan 2014 #30
We can protect our kids from this RobertEarl Jan 2014 #32
They'll still be human when they grow up Shivering Jemmy Jan 2014 #226
Yes, in the case of star fish yes they do nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #48
absolutely! Me too. n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #138
See 39 please nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #40
Die off started before the reactor blew up. jeff47 Jan 2014 #21
Yep. Plutonium has been there awhile. RobertEarl Jan 2014 #25
So....never took a biology class, huh? jeff47 Jan 2014 #26
"there is no telling what may happen" NuclearDem Jan 2014 #29
Not like this. antiquie Jan 2014 #36
Yes, like this. In fact, it is literally this die off. jeff47 Jan 2014 #38
That has zero to do with fukushima nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #34
Plutonium G_j Jan 2014 #4
1 Millionth of One Gram of Inhaled Plutonium Will Give You Cancer -- Helen Caldicott, MD Octafish Jan 2014 #9
thank you G_j Jan 2014 #14
G_j, have you heard about this? countryjake Jan 2014 #18
yes, but I haven't seen this latest update G_j Jan 2014 #28
Corporate media and government silence on Fuku is deafening. JEB Jan 2014 #10
Thanks for the heads-up, JEB. Don't have a replacement for the original, yet. Octafish Jan 2014 #55
our granddaughter wanted to spend this summer in Japan... that was nixed in a heartbeat secondwind Jan 2014 #11
That's very good flamingdem Jan 2014 #12
Do you remember the special trip Hillary made to Japan after Fukushima? flamingdem Jan 2014 #13
So you are claiming the Obama administration is complicit? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #63
It's more of a tendency rather than a blatant policy flamingdem Jan 2014 #74
They've done it for banksters and corporations. n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #98
Orders. Word from above... Octafish Jan 2014 #133
No. Agschmid Jan 2014 #205
Oh, BULLSHIT! ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #16
Yeah, go shopping. JEB Jan 2014 #17
You first, (in the hug your plutonium for real department with no shielding) nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #35
You do realize I was being facetious, right? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #37
When it comes to this subject my sarcasm-o-meter is non functional nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #41
Bananas! 1000words Jan 2014 #50
Phew, not the only one who noticed that meme nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #59
LOL! Plutonium is good business. Octafish Jan 2014 #67
Wrong. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #19
Natural plutonium is extremely rare. Rex Jan 2014 #20
But if it were natural, then it would be healthy and good Orrex Jan 2014 #197
I tried to buy some from GNC and they called the cops! Rex Jan 2014 #219
I've wondered if there could be a link between southerncrone Jan 2014 #101
That may be so, but the fuel in Reactor 3 is enriched with plutonium. Octafish Jan 2014 #104
I wouldn't trust TEPCO to tell us the truth no matter what. Rex Jan 2014 #122
Something like 80% of the mass of the core of the reactor at Chernobyl AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #131
It is extremely embarrassing RobertEarl Jan 2014 #22
Nuclear Information and Resource Service Octafish Jan 2014 #222
100th rec RobertEarl Jan 2014 #225
Don't worry, there's an app for that MyNameGoesHere Jan 2014 #23
Didn't they take that one off the market? Octafish Jan 2014 #70
wow, that's uhhhh flamingdem Jan 2014 #75
Not this again, Jesus! nt Logical Jan 2014 #31
Fukushima is all over the news? Octafish Jan 2014 #92
Nope. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #117
One would think, just based on the SCALE of the disaster, it'd be on TV. Octafish Jan 2014 #119
They must not like the smell of plutonium and stapelia gigantea. Sucks the breath right out of them lonestarnot Jan 2014 #147
EDIT: Original line here contained statistics I pulled out of my ass. It was wrong, and I apologize. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #33
But it's going to annihilate all life in the Northern hemisphere!!!!!!!!! jeff47 Jan 2014 #43
That is the stupidest thing I've read all day! Just how the fuck can you say that? You have ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #44
thank you G_j Jan 2014 #45
"You fuckers"? zappaman Jan 2014 #47
And all the other side has is a bunch of hyperbolic faulty reasoning. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #51
the comment G_j Jan 2014 #53
And the jury results are.... aikoaiko Jan 2014 #88
Looks like the post was edited after the alert was sent...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #109
Where did I mention starfish? Octafish Jan 2014 #49
Didn't say you did. But I know RobertEarl's OP probably triggered this OP. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #52
No. Plutonium is the trigger RobertEarl Jan 2014 #54
You're unbelievable. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #57
So, you brought it up to conflate the issues. Octafish Jan 2014 #56
Ah, Christ. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #58
"Octafish, is there anyone who disagrees with you that isn't a COINTELPRO operative? "... SidDithers Jan 2014 #61
Tag team is so profound, SidDithers. Octafish Jan 2014 #65
The BFEE are killing starfish!!...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #66
Ha ha. It is to laugh at Fascism. Octafish Jan 2014 #68
If you want honest discussion, don't attribute to me what I didn't write then. Octafish Jan 2014 #62
You really don't understand any of this, do you? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #64
"International problem" is pretty far from "global catastrophe." NuclearDem Jan 2014 #72
International problem is global. RobertEarl Jan 2014 #73
For the record, I enjoyed the DU Mail back and forth just a few minutes ago. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #76
And? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #77
You have GOT to be joking. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #79
You caught me RobertEarl Jan 2014 #80
You mean like the half a nano sievert increase in radiation over BC? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #81
See that>>> ""increase in radiation"" RobertEarl Jan 2014 #83
You know what a nano sievert is right? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #85
Concentrated RobertEarl Jan 2014 #86
Mercury contamination in fish RobertEarl Jan 2014 #87
Seriously, enough plutonium to completely contaminate the food supply? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #89
There were many tons of plutonium RobertEarl Jan 2014 #90
Again, at levels far, far below levels that would cause even minor health risks. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #91
Again RobertEarl Jan 2014 #93
Where the hell are you getting that 4.194 pCi/kg figure? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #95
It is found in this DoE report RobertEarl Jan 2014 #120
Granted those figures are in that study... NuclearDem Jan 2014 #126
Point is RobertEarl Jan 2014 #127
No. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #128
Like I say RobertEarl Jan 2014 #129
So you've got nothing else then? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #130
huh? questionseverything Jan 2014 #135
I never said that wasn't true. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #136
p239 is an isotope and lasts about 2 years questionseverything Jan 2014 #139
I think you're confusing Pu-239 with Cs-134 NuclearDem Jan 2014 #141
yes i did questionseverything Jan 2014 #143
Except that study indicated the plutonium, americium, and uranium levels corroborated with pre-2000 NuclearDem Jan 2014 #144
my theory is not either or questionseverything Jan 2014 #145
it si the nonuniform distribution in particulate form questionseverything Jan 2014 #146
Yes, questionseverything RobertEarl Jan 2014 #140
links? nt G_j Jan 2014 #71
And dismissing real concerns is being very disingenuous to the people suffering. Rex Jan 2014 #123
The word "catastrophe" may not mean what you think it means cthulu2016 Jan 2014 #46
You are so right. The lights are still on. Octafish Jan 2014 #69
What do you think it means for the Japanese? Rex Jan 2014 #124
As a child in the 1950s, I got lots of propaganda about the "promise of the peaceful atom." LongTomH Jan 2014 #78
Better Dead than Red. Octafish Jan 2014 #84
How could it not be? Whisp Jan 2014 #82
It's a disaster on a planetary scale and yet Corporate Media pretend it isn't. Octafish Jan 2014 #94
What exactly do you think it's going to do? Sirveri Jan 2014 #102
I try not to dwell on this because, frankly, there's Jack Shit that I can do about it. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #99
I feel that way too, Electric Monk. Problem is, TEPCO also feels that way, too. Octafish Jan 2014 #107
Because Justin Beiber's antics are more important southerncrone Jan 2014 #100
No one died when Justin Bieber got drunk -- but they could have. Octafish Jan 2014 #106
same with the who questionseverything Jan 2014 #137
Here's a report on plutonium from Fukushima: only detectable very close to the reactor muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #103
Here's a report where plutonium was found 40 km from the plant. Octafish Jan 2014 #105
this part shows how ununiform movement can be questionseverything Jan 2014 #121
Thank you - TBF Jan 2014 #108
It is impossible for it to impact weather patterns hack89 Jan 2014 #110
Ionizing Radiation - TBF Jan 2014 #113
Your links saying nothing about changing weather patterns hack89 Jan 2014 #115
Still reading - I found one USA Today TBF Jan 2014 #118
Krypton Gas effecting weather? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #125
Thank you! It's an older article but that's probably better - TBF Jan 2014 #132
You are most welcome, TBF. Octafish Jan 2014 #112
Very helpful - TBF Jan 2014 #114
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #111
LOLOLOLOL! Thanks, DeSwiss. ...except for the Aerosolized Plutonium... Octafish Jan 2014 #116
well, I'll not argue... FreeJoe Jan 2014 #142
How Dangerous Is 400-6000 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Octafish Jan 2014 #148
Wow, first of all, that's a hell of a range (400-6000). NuclearDem Jan 2014 #149
I'll side with Helen Caldicott. Octafish Jan 2014 #150
What does Helen Caldicott's position on transparency have to do with the validity of her claims? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #151
Diversion, misattribution, strawmen and ad hominem attack. Octafish Jan 2014 #152
Yep, most of those were in your post. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #153
Now you are projecting. Octafish Jan 2014 #154
Projecting? You can't be serious. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #155
Perfectly serious. That's why the OP. Octafish Jan 2014 #156
Written entirely without any sort of awareness. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #158
No. Caldicott made a mistake, based on what was then known. A lot different than what you call her. Octafish Jan 2014 #159
No, she took a study that fit her preconceptions despite its numerous known flaws NuclearDem Jan 2014 #161
Again, TEPCO lies. Octafish Jan 2014 #164
Did I ever say TEPCO can be trusted? At all? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #165
Thank you for bringing some rationality to this issue. zappaman Jan 2014 #157
So, you've nothing to write about plutonium from Fukushima, zappaman. Octafish Jan 2014 #160
Nope. zappaman Jan 2014 #162
OK. I'd rather be called Brad, than Dude. Octafish Jan 2014 #167
Whatever... zappaman Jan 2014 #168
Why sources matter, from a journalist at Project Censored... Octafish Jan 2014 #170
Release of plutonium isotopes from the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant accident SidDithers Jan 2014 #163
As opposed to this? Octafish Jan 2014 #166
As everything you've republished has links to originals dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #169
It may have to do with clouding the central issue: Fukushima is a global catastrophe. Octafish Jan 2014 #171
So are US CO2 emmisions since the late 1840's dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #172
Carl Sagan and Helen Caldicott... Octafish Jan 2014 #174
You continually claim the plutonium from Fukushima is a 'global catastrophe' without any evidence muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #173
The OP and most of my replies are sourced. Octafish Jan 2014 #175
I gave you science from sources independent of TEPCO, or governments, in #103 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #176
Great. And I gave you sources in #105 that showed where it was found 25 miles away from FNPP. Octafish Jan 2014 #177
Thank you. Now I see where you're coming from. Octafish Jan 2014 #178
And 25 miles is not 'global' (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #180
Right. But it's plutonium and found 25 times further from the plant than you reported in #103. Octafish Jan 2014 #181
No; the paper found some at 16km away too. But it's patchy muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #182
I'd rather people get the facts and use them to set policy. The phrase is democracy. Octafish Jan 2014 #184
was this supposed to be "safe" too? questionseverything Jan 2014 #187
Globalresearch.ca. LOL... SidDithers Jan 2014 #195
For the cost of Iraq War, we could've built National 100% Renewable Clean Energy Grid. Octafish Jan 2014 #224
... longship Jan 2014 #179
Exactly... SidDithers Jan 2014 #183
Don't worry. The situation may even be worse than what's posted on this thread. Octafish Jan 2014 #188
3-5 orders of magnitude less bad than Chernobyl... SidDithers Jan 2014 #189
But Helen Caldicott said Chernobyl killed nearly a million people! NuclearDem Jan 2014 #191
''3-5 orders of magnitude less than Chernobyl.'' Octafish Jan 2014 #192
Oh for crying out loud. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #198
I want you on the record about this..... Logical Jan 2014 #190
Where did I write that, Logical? Octafish Jan 2014 #193
You claim this is a real true crisis! Where is the coverage??? nt Logical Jan 2014 #196
Oh, I see. If it's not on tee vee, it's not real. Octafish Jan 2014 #204
Where is it? Why was Chernobyl on the tee vee? Or TMI??????? nt Logical Jan 2014 #208
Unfortunately, the facts say otherwise: Plutonium from Fukushima is a global catastrophe. Octafish Jan 2014 #185
ARRRRRGH!!!! longship Jan 2014 #186
They found Fukushima shit in NM? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #194
Same report said it was of no environmental concern. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #199
What is it with you? Any amount of plutonium is cause for concern. Octafish Jan 2014 #202
Alright, so you didn't read the report then. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #206
I read the article where the scientist from NMSU said they detected plutonium on March 14, 2011. Octafish Jan 2014 #207
No, that's not what he said. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #211
do you back the use of depleted uranium in weapons too? questionseverything Jan 2014 #209
Oh, there's a straw man if I ever saw it. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #212
i was just pointing out questionseverything Jan 2014 #213
What bearing does that have on this? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #214
you have been telling me for days how safe things are questionseverything Jan 2014 #215
There's a big difference between depleted uranium and the nearly-undetectable cesium in tuna. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #216
Sure they did. longship Jan 2014 #200
No wonder all you got is ridicule. Octafish Jan 2014 #201
The article itself.......... NM_Birder Jan 2014 #210
Doesn't the US military use plutonium missiles ... MindMover Jan 2014 #203
May explain the birth defects... Octafish Jan 2014 #217
Yes, plutonium is bad. Any amount in your lungs causes cancer but... ryan_cats Jan 2014 #218
An Admirable Ability. Here's what Physicians for Social Responsibility said back in March, 2011... Octafish Jan 2014 #223
I saw about a three minute report last night. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #220
Did they ask: 'What if the Fukushima nuclear fallout crisis had happened here?' Octafish Jan 2014 #221
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