General Discussion

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)

20. Having one big conservative party has effectively neutralized the progressives of the Party.

Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:44 AM

Jan 2014

This wasnt an accident. Obama ran as a progressive and got support from the left. But immediately, starting at his inauguration he leaped right. I saw it with his choices of Rick Warren and Rahm Emanuel and the dismissal of Howard Dean. Couldnt wait to distance himself from the left.

Technically it's still a two party system but one party is conservative and the other party is wacko. This is the perfect system for the Powers To Be. They use the wackos to scare the hell out of us, then we are grateful for the party of Gen Clapper, Penny Pritzker, Tim Geitner, Lawrence Summers, Ben Bernanke, William M. Daley, Jeff Immelt, Dave Cote, Robert Gates, Gen Stanley McChrystal, Jacob Lew, Jeremiah Norton, Gen Petraeus, John Brennen, Chuck Hegal, Michael Taylor, James Comey, Robert Mueller, Rahm Emanuel, Gen Alexander.

And what is in our future? Eight more years of pro-Wall Street administrations and the sinking of American workers. How ironic that Citizens United may play a major role in getting H. Clinton-Sachs elected.

It's time we run the conservatives out of our party and back to the Republican Party where they belong.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

133 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

''Over the last 30 odd years, Democrats have moved to the right and the right has moved ... [View all] Scuba Jan 2014 OP

Agree 100%. Sadly. djean111 Jan 2014 #1

cowards who are running along side of the republicans into the dark of night... madrchsod Jan 2014 #2

HAHA! True! grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #3

Beautifully stated. And where does that leave the rest of America? JDPriestly Jan 2014 #4

s-c-r-e-w-e-d. nt antigop Jan 2014 #6

+1 harun Jan 2014 #71

So right, unfortunately. kairos12 Jan 2014 #5

Maybe instead of the Republicans splitting in two... Kablooie Jan 2014 #7

the replaced the Whigs in pretty short span of time yurbud Jan 2014 #73

30 years ago creeksneakers2 Jan 2014 #8

+1 hibbing Jan 2014 #10

greedy, stupid Democrats Skittles Jan 2014 #15

And today, Saint Ronnie wouldn't make the cut in his own party Bettie Jan 2014 #32

Want to realize how FAR to the Conservative Right the Democratic Party has moved? bvar22 Jan 2014 #41

Reagan ProSense Jan 2014 #74

Yes. Reagan sucked, bvar22 Jan 2014 #87

So you're promoting Reagan's hypocrisy? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #88

Speaking of hypocrisy. bvar22 Jan 2014 #92

"As conservative as Reagan was, pledging to NOT cut our Social Security wasn't too much for HIM. " ProSense Jan 2014 #95

Reagan didn't cut SS creeksneakers2 Jan 2014 #99

"Reagan didn't cut SS but he was the first one to tax it, which was in effect a cut." ProSense Jan 2014 #100

...and neither Clinton nor Obama has seen fit to "untax" Social Security. bvar22 Jan 2014 #128

Clinton expanded the tax, but ProSense Jan 2014 #129

Quite Sad And So True colsohlibgal Jan 2014 #9

What does it say that so many Democrats think he's Progressive? [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #13

Yeah, that's scary too. RC Jan 2014 #70

For most people, politics is emotional. Maedhros Jan 2014 #75

It shows, in large part, that they lack an immediate better option... nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #116

It shows that they don't have a clue what "Progressive" means. Maedhros Jan 2014 #119

I voted for Obama twice. So to some degree, I have to take responsibility for his bad decisions nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #120

But you're not insisting he's a Progressive, either. [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2014 #122

+1. I have to laugh whenever I hear people call him a commie, but you can't convince them El_Johns Jan 2014 #19

K & R L0oniX Jan 2014 #11

True. The DC DEMS champion Bob Dole's 1996 HealthCare Scam, and claim it as their own. blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #12

Damn skippy. Myrina Jan 2014 #14

It was Clinton, Rahm zentrum Jan 2014 #16

Don't forget xxqqqzme Jan 2014 #62

Completely agree. zentrum Jan 2014 #93

How right you are.. Dwight Eisenhower really would not recognize truedelphi Jan 2014 #64

The DLC was funded by the Koch Brothers, bvar22 Jan 2014 #127

That's horrifying. zentrum Jan 2014 #130

It IS horrifying, bvar22 Jan 2014 #132

They communicate by ham radio .... MindMover Jan 2014 #17

Creeping normality progressoid Jan 2014 #18

Having one big conservative party has effectively neutralized the progressives of the Party. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #20

Damn, that is one great post right there. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #24

In 2008 Cheney and Bush assumed a very unusual behavior. Both shut the F up and crawled out rhett o rick Jan 2014 #44

huge dem turn out can overcome the "rigging" questionseverything Jan 2014 #57

I will have to read that. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #78

An old guy with cancer and Enthusiast Jan 2014 #76

Communism?? Ah shit, I completely forgot about Communism. I been worried about corporate fascism. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #124

it was more that a democratic win was a foregone conclusion. unblock Jan 2014 #84

Funny how politicians have to run on progressive values. gtar100 Jan 2014 #37

Well said dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #46

Some among us want to badly to believe they are "free" because they get to vote. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #47

Exactly dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #50

Good point. The right to vote is a necessary but not sufficient condition of freedom. n/t pampango Jan 2014 #51

Good way to put it. In some countries they get to vote but only one candidate runs. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #79

We must go forward, not backward! Upward, not forward!" Maedhros Jan 2014 #90

Hear, hear, well said. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #49

Spot On! BodieTown Jan 2014 #52

Most excellent post n/t Titonwan Jan 2014 #56

Indeed! Saviolo Jan 2014 #94

The Democratic Party playbook sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #110

Bill totally nailed it there. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #21

"We have to rely on comedians for the truth in this nation ". Sad state of affairs. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #123

C'est vrai. ..... Explains why things are as FUBAR as they are now. marmar Jan 2014 #22

"and the right has moved into the mental hospital" TBF Jan 2014 #23

Meant as a comedic remark, but...... RoverSuswade Jan 2014 #97

I can't argue with that at all! nt TBF Jan 2014 #98

du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #25

Yep. nt LWolf Jan 2014 #26

Agreed! nt valerief Jan 2014 #27

it is hard to advance a progressive agenda when 40% of the country thinks what would have been once Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #28

I disagree that 40% of the country thinks this way. Scuba Jan 2014 #29

in terms of issue by issue - I agree with you. I'm sure issue by issue - there are many Tea Party Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #31

But it's much worse than you think. Many will not even admit that A Simple Game Jan 2014 #35

Good question. Here's the answer, in order. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #55

Or more likely, A Simple Game Jan 2014 #66

Sadly true. nt DLevine Jan 2014 #30

He's not even a republican by standards 50-60 years ago. pangaia Jan 2014 #33

Bravo Liberalynn Jan 2014 #34

We have discussed this before... freebrew Jan 2014 #36

One more explanation of this movement here on DU... Demenace Jan 2014 #38

I don't recall ever seeing anything that resembled "government is tyranny" here at DU. Scuba Jan 2014 #39

Only screaming that the US government is "facist" and a "police state" ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #58

Thank you for pointing out the obvious... Demenace Jan 2014 #60

I looked at all four of those links. None included DU'ers saying our government is tyranny. Scuba Jan 2014 #61

FEMA isn't the government? The NSA isn't? The military? ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #67

None of those posts had DU'ers saying those agencies were tyranny, or much else. Scuba Jan 2014 #68

false equivalence noiretextatique Jan 2014 #69

Reading comprehension... Demenace Jan 2014 #106

100% Truth. Democrats need to take their party back! reformist2 Jan 2014 #40

Is Barack Obama significantly to the right of Bill Clinton? Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #42

I'd put them on similar ground, what I call "corporate Democrats". Scuba Jan 2014 #43

So it's not really fair to say that Democrats have moved to the right "over the last 30 years" Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #45

Probably somewhat of an unfair argument dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #48

Spot-on reply, thank you. Scuba Jan 2014 #63

Dreamnightwind, it is also true that truedelphi Jan 2014 #65

Yes, info was very hard to come by then dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #131

k and r frwrfpos Jan 2014 #53

Bill's right. Titonwan Jan 2014 #54

So how do we escape from the corporate $$$ grip. INdemo Jan 2014 #59

Only escape is stopping the Corpo dollars harun Jan 2014 #72

Exactly INdemo Feb 2014 #133

and he schtups Coulter and plagiarizes Bill Hicks reddread Jan 2014 #77

The "lesser of two evils" isn't as less as it should be and the greater evil has gone nuts. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #80

I have ProSense Jan 2014 #81

Question: When the Democrats gain influence (e.g., the White House and the Senate) ... Scuba Jan 2014 #83

What ProSense Jan 2014 #85

That's it? DADT and one good Democratic Senator? Scuba Jan 2014 #101

Wait, ProSense Jan 2014 #102

Dodd-Frank is not a shift to the left, it's a shift back toward the center, but only a bit. Scuba Jan 2014 #104

"Dodd-Frank is not a shift to the left, it's a shift back toward the center" ProSense Jan 2014 #105

No, "left" would mean more stringent regulation than Glass-Stegall. Dodd-Frank is less stringent ... Scuba Jan 2014 #107

That makes no sense ProSense Jan 2014 #108

Sorry, ProSense, but you stated "Everytime the Republicans gain ground (enough to influence) ... Scuba Jan 2014 #112

You cannot escape the fact that Dodd-Frank moves to the left after the repeal of Glass-Steagall. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #113

To the left of a far-right absence of regulation, yes. To the left? No, Dodd-Frank's still right. Scuba Jan 2014 #114

And it's still ProSense Jan 2014 #115

I'll let you split the hair that it's left of the repeal, but not that it makes the OP nonsense. Scuba Jan 2014 #117

"250+ DU'ers agree." ProSense Jan 2014 #121

You can see it right here on this forum whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #82

His Words Echo My Complaints fredamae Jan 2014 #86

And that imaginary Mason Dixon boomerbust Jan 2014 #89

In the 1980s I worked very hard, bvar22 Jan 2014 #91

As a voting Democrat for nearly five decades democrank Jan 2014 #96

What ProSense Jan 2014 #103

Here's a video link to that quote. robertpaulsen Jan 2014 #109

Great clip, thanks! n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #125

Couldn't agree more! bvar22 Jan 2014 #126

He also said Obama is "too white" for Liberals. great white snark Jan 2014 #111

Obviously a stupid comment. But he's still right more often than a whole lot people are... nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #118