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JHB

(37,128 posts)
90. I think we're arguing about octane levels in the fuel
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jan 2014

We agree that both racism and conservative scorched-earthism are at play here. You attribute a higher percentage to racism, I think that doesn't give enough credit to how far the scorched-eartherism has taken root and grown.

Would you concur with that characterization and agree to disagree?

Clinton was impeached. nt Romulox Jan 2014 #1
And Carter was trashed in the media Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author madokie Jan 2014 #6
They pretty much did to Carter what they're doing to Obama now madokie Jan 2014 #80
back to the despicable tactic of broadly hinting that people who don't support the President cali Jan 2014 #4
I don't think that's the posters intention, I think poster is JaneyVee Jan 2014 #18
Ayup LondonReign2 Jan 2014 #26
Well said. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #31
I don't dislike him. I find him extremely likable. I think he's probably a good human being cali Jan 2014 #2
LOL treestar Jan 2014 #7
Wow Cali! Puglover Jan 2014 #19
yeah, there's nothing like smilies to wound one. cali Jan 2014 #20
Down at our place in Ecuador. Puglover Jan 2014 #34
They might as well rename the rofl smiley Union Scribe Jan 2014 #54
... Puglover Jan 2014 #65
No, it's hilarious that the board's chief Obama hater treestar Jan 2014 #66
And again, you guys are unable to separate disagreement with issues and 'hate'. laundry_queen Jan 2014 #69
The 5th grade is where you learn all about politics and how treestar Jan 2014 #71
Projection. It's where it's at. nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #72
Nice try there. Puglover Jan 2014 #74
You never really loved him!!!1 QC Jan 2014 #75
Frankly QC I would Puglover Jan 2014 #76
Oh well, it's marginally better than shouting at a lesbian DUer, QC Jan 2014 #78
... Puglover Jan 2014 #79
That thing is vicious libodem Jan 2014 #86
He would be the greatest President ever and would have gotten a D Congress throughout treestar Jan 2014 #5
I would think mostly the same as far as policies go, and probably think less of him if he were quinnox Jan 2014 #8
You need to add 'and was from a silver spoon family.' They hated Clinton because he grew up poor. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #9
Bill Clinton was treated like shit BuelahWitch Jan 2014 #10
Erm...but Clinton left himself wide open with a personal character flaw. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #36
But they did believe he was born in the US treestar Jan 2014 #67
They accused him of drug smuggling and running a Murder Inc. JHB Jan 2014 #96
Maybe they would accuse him... Mike Nelson Jan 2014 #11
You mean if he looked like Clinton and was named James? Autumn Jan 2014 #12
One thing both Clinton and Carter had in common... kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #15
Please list the ways that this is different than with Clinton. JHB Jan 2014 #13
Birtherism. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #24
They insinuated he'd renounced his citizenship and was recruited by the KGB... JHB Jan 2014 #38
Clinton's nationality was never questioned. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #29
Actually, it was. At least Clinton's citizenship, which they claimed he renounced. JHB Jan 2014 #43
Right, but only the rumor that he tried to renounce it. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #63
The first President to be asked to produce his birth certificate! treestar Jan 2014 #73
I'll see you the birth certificate and raise you the "Clinton death count" n/t JHB Jan 2014 #85
YOU LIE. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #41
I failed mind-reading in school, but assuming you mean that twerk who... JHB Jan 2014 #55
Well done. That is in fact what I was referring to. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #58
I think we're arguing about octane levels in the fuel JHB Jan 2014 #90
No trumped up scandals made out of nothing treestar Jan 2014 #68
You're joking, right? Vince Foster, "wag the dog", travelgate,... JHB Jan 2014 #84
there was still at least a little of something there in each one treestar Jan 2014 #87
What were they latching onto in four investigations of Vince Foster's suicide? JHB Jan 2014 #89
He raped Juanita B. too-remember. Boomerproud Jan 2014 #94
Please tell me you left off the "They claimed he..." n/t JHB Jan 2014 #95
He is a Democrat, that is all avebury Jan 2014 #14
He would be on Mt. Rushmore by now. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #16
of course that isn't true, but can you succinctly state what he's done that you think merits him cali Jan 2014 #17
Reversing a financial meltdown, ending the Iraq war, getting OBL, JaneyVee Jan 2014 #21
OK. The Economic recovery that isn't. I'll give you expanded healthcare coverage although cali Jan 2014 #30
But the economic recovery has been spectacular... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2014 #33
Shedding 800K jobs a month vs. 5 yrs of job growth, millions with access JaneyVee Jan 2014 #39
I look forward to a day when Americans can even elect a black president MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #22
Wait, what? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #25
Wait, he's... BLACK?! We'll I'll be damned. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #35
...then slightly over 50% of the population can't be too racist to vote for a black man. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #37
Obama's approval rating started at well over 60% MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #44
Don't all presidents lose approval rating over their term? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #46
IIRC, Reagan, Clinton, and Dim Son were substantially higher at this point. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #48
66% of that doesn't surprise me. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #51
You're right MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #60
Same argument Rush Limbaugh makes. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #42
OK, I'm busted. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #45
Much less REELECT a black president to a SECOND TERM... amiright? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #53
And he is treated normally treestar Jan 2014 #70
It's impossible to know, because there's never been a white Democratic presi... hey, wait a minute! Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #23
There would be no tea party countingbluecars Jan 2014 #27
Republicans would still hate him, but maybe some wouldn't as much. DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #28
Yep. They'd still hate him. He's a Democrat, after all. OnionPatch Jan 2014 #56
The left would feel exactly the same about him as we do now. Zorra Jan 2014 #32
A few people would like him more; a few people would dislike him more. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #40
I think it would make more difference than you might think. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #47
I don't know....."Bill Clinton" was about as caucasian sounding as you could get. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #49
They would consider him a Republican. Probably he would have run Cleita Jan 2014 #50
Racists might like him better. polichick Jan 2014 #52
Bill Clinton Renew Deal Jan 2014 #57
They do this shit to every Democrat, going back to Woodrow Wilson. eom TransitJohn Jan 2014 #59
not so treestar Jan 2014 #83
So you're limiting the discussion to filibusters, alone? TransitJohn Jan 2014 #97
The vast majority would think the same - but just use different words. karynnj Jan 2014 #61
He'd be considered mediocre Armstead Jan 2014 #62
Yep. 840high Jan 2014 #64
I don't know. They hated Bill Clinton with a passion too. They fear anything that is different liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #77
I honestly think it would be much the same Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #81
He'd still likely be trashed & ridiculed, no doubt. AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #82
Something different than what they think now. Rex Jan 2014 #88
Oh they would go after his record. But not as hard. If people were given a chance to applegrove Jan 2014 #91
About the same as they do now... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #92
Well, his first name could be Hebrew sakabatou Jan 2014 #93
If he still had the same policies, I'd still think him a "centrist" rather than a progressive. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #98
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