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bvar22

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36. DURec for Snowden and the Whistle Blowers.

Reply to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:55 PM

Jan 2014

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Rampant Government Secrecy and Democracy can not co-exist.

Persecution of Whistle Blowers and Democracy can not co-exist.

Government surveillance of the citizenry and Democracy can not co-exist.

Secret Laws and Democracy can not co-exist.

Secret Courts and Democracy can not-co-exist.

Our Democracy depends on an informed electorate.

You either believe in Democracy,
or you don't.
It IS that simple.

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If Snowden Made Us Stronger How Is He a Traitor? - FDL [View all] WillyT Jan 2014 OP

the fan club will be right along to explain Skittles Jan 2014 #1

! KG Jan 2014 #2

here, I'll get it started KG! ------> HILLARY!!! HILLARY!!! <------- Skittles Jan 2014 #4

Can I play? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #23

WORSHIP THEIR LEADER? Skittles Jan 2014 #31

Post endless beach phptos? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #34

LOL !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #5

You Were Soooo Correct... WillyT Jan 2014 #21

the debate could have been had with or without snowden JI7 Jan 2014 #3

And... Precisely... Just HOW Would That Debate Have Been Initiated ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #6

the NSA has been around for decades JI7 Jan 2014 #8

Obama was totally going to start that conversation in February 2014! Fumesucker Jan 2014 #11

he could have had the conversation anytime unlike China and Russia which was his point JI7 Jan 2014 #12

Exactly! Fumesucker Jan 2014 #13

Snowden is weakening his claims by hanging out in Russia and not criticizing Russia and China JI7 Jan 2014 #14

Precisely, if Snowden had stayed in the US he could have accessed the press like Chelsea Manning did Fumesucker Jan 2014 #16

he could have done it in many ways , since Snowden wasn't military like Manning he would have had JI7 Jan 2014 #18

Tell us more about these "more options" and the many splendid ways... R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #25

He "ran off" to China and Russia pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #29

Snowden should be brought up on charges of treason for R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #24

We could have just "gone along" SPYING ON AMERICANS".... KoKo Jan 2014 #9

He should be in prison ProSense Jan 2014 #7

I'm not sure that you have a point. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #26

Lol! From you this is truly funny Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #27

FDL? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #10

He should have stopped with releasing info on domestic . . . brush Jan 2014 #15

Well said Egnever Jan 2014 #19

+1, Der Spiegel said the docs he gave them could place opperatives in danger, that was needless uponit7771 Jan 2014 #33

The president himself was surprised at the scale NSA spying so Snowden did him a service as well. pa28 Jan 2014 #17

FDL is the "Newsmax" of Progressive circles. Don't believe jazzimov Jan 2014 #20

"The debate was going to happen - Obama called for it repeatedly." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #28

lol Marr Jan 2014 #39

Don't confuse us with reason! jimlup Jan 2014 #22

Why don't you think its possible for creeksneakers2 Jan 2014 #30

Snowden Hypocrisy = The surveillance programs should be part of national discussion and ... uponit7771 Jan 2014 #32

Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2014 #35

DURec for Snowden and the Whistle Blowers. bvar22 Jan 2014 #36

K&R times 1000. nt riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #37

Snowden showed the world what the roaches at NSA are doing and Obama responded with band-aids. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #38