"Nothing is perfect" (Reply #86) - Democratic Underground

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Thu Jan 16, 2014, 04:33 PM

nobodyspecial (2,286 posts)

86. "Nothing is perfect"

WTF?!?!? That is your response to innocent people being killed by the state?

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156 replies	Author	Time	Post
Executed Killer Dennis McGuire Gasped And Snorted For 15 Minutes Under New Lethal Drug Combo [View all]	WillyT	Jan 2014	OP
Good.	TroglodyteScholar	Jan 2014	#1
Wish I could recommend your post (n/t)	Amaril	Jan 2014	#4
Maybe we should take a leaf from the book of the animal kingdom	Aerows	Jan 2014	#11
perhaps we need to seriously address why that person is in prison for a marijuana offense..	frylock	Jan 2014	#38
I would first rather address someone that killed a newlywed that was 8 months pregnant.	William769	Jan 2014	#49
very simple; life in prison without parole..	frylock	Jan 2014	#52
I like the option used in this case better.	William769	Jan 2014	#55
i do. you have the same view as they do in north korea and saudi arabia..	frylock	Jan 2014	#62
I always do!	William769	Jan 2014	#63
as i'm sure you do when innocent people are executed	frylock	Jan 2014	#69
You're a mind reader?	William769	Jan 2014	#71
just using basic logic here..	frylock	Jan 2014	#72
Nothing is perfect.	William769	Jan 2014	#75
you accept the murder of innocent people as the cost of doing business..	frylock	Jan 2014	#85
"Nothing is perfect"	nobodyspecial	Jan 2014	#86
Awful.	kcr	Jan 2014	#88
I probably could have phrased it better but considering who I was responding to, I didn't see	William769	Jan 2014	#89
Perfect is impossible	kcr	Jan 2014	#91
There will NEVER be a way to make it "perfect"	BuddhaGirl	Jan 2014	#100
human rights are human rights	CreekDog	Jan 2014	#120
Your right human rights are human rights.	William769	Jan 2014	#121
Victims' rights are indeed important, but killing someone gives nothing good to a victim	CreekDog	Jan 2014	#122
"The lowest crime rates are precisely where death is not a penalty."	Skip Intro	Jan 2014	#135
I'd respond to the always class act William769	CreekDog	Jan 2014	#136
Called it. n/t	Skip Intro	Jan 2014	#138
Yes I did	CreekDog	Jan 2014	#139
.	Skip Intro	Jan 2014	#141
ALERT ALERT! I wuv Creekdoug!	Rex	Jan 2014	#144
!	CreekDog	Jan 2014	#145
Wonderfully put.	Tommy_Carcetti	Jan 2014	#147
If I'm ever murdered...	TroglodyteScholar	Jan 2014	#127
And then we become what we say we despise the most. I will never allow a monster who murders	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#143
I'm right with you	get the red out	Jan 2014	#97
Have you heard of cruel an unusal punishment. He may have deserved the penalty, but not the	lostincalifornia	Jan 2014	#102
the problem is it doesn't make us safer	CreekDog	Jan 2014	#119
+1000. eom.	Ranchemp.	Jan 2014	#57
Me too n/t	Aerows	Jan 2014	#74
Never argued anything different	Aerows	Jan 2014	#50
indeed	frylock	Jan 2014	#53
much easier, and much more profitable as they can seize property. nt	littlewolf	Jan 2014	#116
"Take a leaf from the book of the animal kingdom..."	TroglodyteScholar	Jan 2014	#124
Unfortunately, too few in our bloodlust society will come away with that response.	Tommy_Carcetti	Jan 2014	#146
I'll bet they won't be using that method again.	MADem	Jan 2014	#2
Beheading of firing squad would be more humane	Aerows	Jan 2014	#5
Indeed . . .	markpkessinger	Jan 2014	#41
It's true	Aerows	Jan 2014	#42
Beheading is barbaric.	WinkyDink	Jan 2014	#125
No argument there . . .	markpkessinger	Jan 2014	#140
No, no, and vehemently no to the idea of beheading as "humane." Death is quick, yes, but the sheer	WinkyDink	Jan 2014	#123
Hasn't it been shown that the head lives	Hayabusa	Jan 2014	#130
Similar to the once favored Crucifiction	warrant46	Jan 2014	#8
Enjoy getting locked up for something	Aerows	Jan 2014	#12
Whaa ?	warrant46	Jan 2014	#46
I'm not certain what part I should enlighten you about	Aerows	Jan 2014	#48
It's sarcasm-- but I think you replied to someone else	warrant46	Jan 2014	#51
It's kind of as WTF? as your post	Aerows	Jan 2014	#58
Thank you for the intelligent reply	warrant46	Jan 2014	#67
Well that's certainly relevant	Aerows	Jan 2014	#77
10,000 female people	Aerows	Jan 2014	#79
In Iran, Saudi Arabia and a few other countries, it IS a public spectacle. Still.	MADem	Jan 2014	#30
reminds me of The Green Mile	Whisp	Jan 2014	#25
"Mengele chemical gawdwfulness"	Aerows	Jan 2014	#45
Actually Beheading isnt quite humane.	Mrdrboi	Jan 2014	#60
Ok--you have a choice. You can drown from "air hunger" for five minutes, or you can	MADem	Jan 2014	#81
Seems like a firing squad or guillotine would be more humane.	Cleita	Jan 2014	#3
Every single society	Aerows	Jan 2014	#7
We have other means of separating them from society.	Cleita	Jan 2014	#9
In this case there was no chance that he was innocent.	Ranchemp.	Jan 2014	#14
That's actually where my sympathy lies too, with the family.	Cleita	Jan 2014	#17
So true. eom.	Ranchemp.	Jan 2014	#18
This message was self-deleted by its author	frylock	Jan 2014	#40
How?	Aerows	Jan 2014	#15
People like that are damaged beyond repair and belong in a psychiatric institution that has	Cleita	Jan 2014	#21
I would metaphorically wield it	Aerows	Jan 2014	#29
No it is because you see your fellow man as nothing more than animals	MattBaggins	Jan 2014	#95
Yeah, we're a little different from the rest of the animal kingdom.	The Stranger	Jan 2014	#39
You can't get past being an animal?	MattBaggins	Jan 2014	#93
If we did use the guillotine, the jury would have to look at the accused and think......	LongTomH	Jan 2014	#19
The guy who invented the guillotine did so because he felt it was a quicker	Cleita	Jan 2014	#23
To say nothing of a head that was still alive, conscious and in obvious pain for a minute or so.	RC	Jan 2014	#35
Gosh that's just terrible	legcramp	Jan 2014	#6
An eye for an eye...	joeybee12	Jan 2014	#10
Eye for an eye is immediate death	Aerows	Jan 2014	#13
yeap	Egnever	Jan 2014	#16
There is no doubt she suffered horribly. And there is nothing that will ever erase	msanthrope	Jan 2014	#22
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2014	#43
Great, so we sink to just barely above his level.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#94
Joy Stewart	donco	Jan 2014	#20
She can't rest in peace or non-peace. She's just dead.	HERVEPA	Jan 2014	#36
One thing is for certain	get the red out	Jan 2014	#98
He wasn't killing anyone when he was behind bars now was he?	neverforget	Jan 2014	#132
She's dead. I doubt her non-existence has any opinion on the guy's execution.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#92
Where the hell have they kept her body so that she's	morningfog	Jan 2014	#113
if you murder some one	beachbum bob	Jan 2014	#24
As does mine.	840high	Jan 2014	#28
I remember when his victims died, reading articles about their horrible final moments	CBGLuthier	Jan 2014	#26
I can't work up any sympathy...	sendero	Jan 2014	#37
They're made in Europe and the EU forbids using their products in executions	jmowreader	Jan 2014	#137
Aren't lethal injection drugs supposed to just stop your heart?	Dash87	Jan 2014	#27
Lethal injections rarely kill instantly	Harmony Blue	Jan 2014	#33
Basically, they used him as a test animal to test the new protocol.	riqster	Jan 2014	#31
It would not surprise me if someone decide to use this guy as a guinea pig	Baitball Blogger	Jan 2014	#32
I am unalterably opposed to the death penalty.	MineralMan	Jan 2014	#34
My opinion is that I don't give a shit if he suffered. Joy Stewart, her baby, and their family...	ChisolmTrailDem	Jan 2014	#44
Yet isn't it interesting that virtually every other western democracy . . .	markpkessinger	Jan 2014	#65
Don't get me wrong, I lean heavily anti-death penalty. However, I often find	ChisolmTrailDem	Jan 2014	#84
Yeah, you sure do.	2ndAmForComputers	Jan 2014	#155
agreed	frylock	Jan 2014	#47
+1	cinnabonbon	Jan 2014	#68
I agree.	enlightenment	Jan 2014	#82
That's how I feel, too. You can't be partly against the death penalty.	MineralMan	Jan 2014	#83
we're such a civilized nation	TimeToEvolve	Jan 2014	#54
I see many here saying they have no sympathy for a killer and that's fine	Arcanetrance	Jan 2014	#56
Who else should do it?	HipChick	Jan 2014	#59
No one we should be better than an eye for an eye	Arcanetrance	Jan 2014	#61
Better?	HipChick	Jan 2014	#64
Ah yes and while we are at it we can start chopping off arms of those that steal	Arcanetrance	Jan 2014	#66
Higher than life in prison	nadinbrzezinski	Jan 2014	#87
Even if I had no sympathy for killers (and I'll admit, I have sympathy for everyone)	Hippo_Tron	Jan 2014	#134
I really dont have the sympathy for someone who commited such a violent murder.	Mrdrboi	Jan 2014	#70
That's disgusting.	cinnabonbon	Jan 2014	#73
Does anyone know how federal courts have ruled on the "cruel" part of cruel and unusual?	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2014	#76
First off it has to be cruel AND unusual.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#112
thanks. I had never thought about both conditions having to be met	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2014	#114
All executions should be public beheadings	LittleBlue	Jan 2014	#78
I guess I'm an asshole	Aerows	Jan 2014	#80
You are onto something	nadinbrzezinski	Jan 2014	#90
wth, did they not use enough? it shouldn't be hard to quickly kill someone with an overdoes of a	dionysus	Jan 2014	#96
Why not just go into the evidence locker and shoot 'em up with a massive heroin overdose?	MADem	Jan 2014	#142
thats what i'm sayin. i'm not pro DP, but if you're gonna do it, even i can think of painless ways	dionysus	Jan 2014	#149
I am on the same page. They'd have done better to consult a veterinarian and ask them how they put	MADem	Jan 2014	#151
and what noises did his pregnant VICTIM make?	pansypoo53219	Jan 2014	#99
Who cares? Why would you eat to know that?	morningfog	Jan 2014	#110
Good... Hope it hurt like hell...	Lost_Count	Jan 2014	#101
and what would that accomplish to give the condemned extra suffering? Would that bring back the	lostincalifornia	Jan 2014	#104
Get lost, count.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#109
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2014	#118
Ugh. I feel sick reading that.	Union Scribe	Jan 2014	#103
THIS is who we've become. We are no better than the Nazis.	Th1onein	Jan 2014	#105
they probably didn't use enough. If 'the state' wants to kill, than give a MASSIVE overdose.	Sunlei	Jan 2014	#106
Okay fine, why not build an instant incineration machine?	Rex	Jan 2014	#107
Shame on Ohio. Fucking barbarians.	morningfog	Jan 2014	#108
Exactly	mokawanis	Jan 2014	#111
I am anti dp	gwheezie	Jan 2014	#115
I just want to comment on the snoring/snorting part	gwheezie	Jan 2014	#117
That's pretty much what a natural death looks like..	Barack_America	Jan 2014	#126
There's no pain or discomfort in "natural death?"	morningfog	Jan 2014	#128
I didn't say that.	Barack_America	Jan 2014	#131
If we are going to use capital punishment,	Hayabusa	Jan 2014	#129
Do we know those are indicators of pain? From my understanding...	Hippo_Tron	Jan 2014	#133
i agree, it's easy to use massive doses of drugs to kill someone quickly	dionysus	Jan 2014	#150
Wonder how long the innocent woman and her child gasped for air before they died ?	NM_Birder	Jan 2014	#148
Ever see someone you love removed from life support?	2pooped2pop	Jan 2014	#152
yes, my mom. but i think it was harder for us watching than it was for her. she wa on a large dose	dionysus	Jan 2014	#153
I expected her to go quietly	2pooped2pop	Jan 2014	#154
some of it, i guess, you just can't avoid... it was mostly peaceful, but at the end there was what i	dionysus	Jan 2014	#156

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