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doc03

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8. I don't believe it hurt Mexico more than the US, after all

Reply to marmar (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:52 PM

Jan 2014

where is the biggest selling "American" car the Ford Fusion made, Mexico, Chevy Silverado the second best selling vehicle in the US is also made there now. It has almost totally de-industrialized the US. I started working in a steel company back in 1970 when we had 19000 employees, today only one plant with less than 200 exists. Millions of tons of steel was made in the upper Ohio Valley for over two hundred years, today not one pound is produced here.
A few months ago they shut down the aluminum plant here that operated for over 50 years. It all started in the 70s when manufacturers went to the "right to work for less" south. When wages got to high there they found Mexico then China. If those bastards found cheap labor on Mars they would move there.

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After 20 Years, NAFTA Leaves Mexico’s Economy in Ruins [View all] marmar Jan 2014 OP

Thanks, Bill! jsr Jan 2014 #1

Can we now pronounce neo-liberalism an epic fail? Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #7

Absolutely. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #17

but, but... abelenkpe Jan 2014 #2

Proponents always say nice things about terrible ideas...and those that author them. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #11

And NAFTA / Clinton were one reason we lost a lot of blue collar votes in places like rural Virginia X_Digger Jan 2014 #3

Clinton 2016. It's inevitable. L0oniX Jan 2014 #23

Two words... Fumesucker Jan 2014 #4

Ross Perot was right. democratisphere Jan 2014 #5

He certainly was. Barack_America Jan 2014 #6

I don't believe it hurt Mexico more than the US, after all doc03 Jan 2014 #8

Is Mexico Adding Auto Jobs or Is It Just Losing them Less Rapidly? El_Johns Jan 2014 #13

China produces 4 times the steel we did even when we were number one in the world. From doc03 Jan 2014 #25

"working harder" = No. Investing in new plant & equipment. But part of that is foreign capital El_Johns Jan 2014 #26

It is hard to modernize when you are competing against doc03 Jan 2014 #28

Nothing to disagree with there. El_Johns Jan 2014 #31

Well they did get a lot of battery waste disposal jobs. L0oniX Jan 2014 #24

So presumably Mexico will be moving to pull out of NAFTA soon. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #9

They have greedy and wealthy profiteers as well. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #20

It was Bush Sr. that fast-tracked it before he left office indie9197 Jan 2014 #10

Interestingly, both Joe Biden and John Kerry sure do solarhydrocan Jan 2014 #12

those videos suggest its not a theory TL_dem68 Jan 2014 #21

And with access to US packaged foods .. Mexicans flamingdem Jan 2014 #14

Excellent interview with Lori Wallach octoberlib Jan 2014 #15

NAFTA and welfare reform is why I stopped being a registered Democrat... Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #16

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #18

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #19

Mexico is now the dumping ground for hazarous waste ...like batteries and the like. L0oniX Jan 2014 #22

NPR (Neocon Public Radio) on NAFTA last week IDemo Jan 2014 #27

The horrible things now called tomatoes are no success story. El_Johns Jan 2014 #29

How can Mexicans afford Walmart etc. treestar Jan 2014 #30