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d_r

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20. Here is an example
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:48 PM
Mar 2012

from youtube.

Now, please don't say something like "everything on youtube is copy right free because they check" because that simply wouldn't be true. There are gazillions of copyrighted materials on youtube.

So tell me, is this video copy right free?

It is a "vocaloid" song - it uses the yamaha voice synthesizer. The voice is from "Kaito" a Japanese singer, who's speech was captured at a phonetic level and used to sing a song the original singer never sung. The song was originally by Klaus Nomi, who died of AIDS in 1983, and whose original performances exist as videos of his live performance. It was originally posted to Nico Nico, the japanese video sharing site were music is often mixed.
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Now, is that copyrighted? And who would own the copyright? Yamaha who produced the software that produced it? The Japanese singer whose voice was used? The individual who actually did the programming for the music and video? The estate of Klaus Nomi? The record company that Klaus Nomi was under contract to in the late 1970s? Nico Nico?

I honestly don't know. I honestly don't know if it is copyrighted or not. But the mere inclusion of it on youtube is certainly no guarantee that it is not copyrighted. I wouldn't begin to know how to find out if there is a copy right on that.

And that is on youtube.

Now take something like bit torrent. If I open up transmission, there are plenty of files that are copy right free and plenty that are not. And, no, the copy right free doesn't say right in the torrent name that it is copy right free necessarily, and frankly I think the "assume it isn't free unless it is free" idea isn't a workable one in this world.
Does downloading stuff from Youtube count? limpyhobbler Mar 2012 #1
Sounds like they're concentrating on P2P networks - so probably not GOTV Mar 2012 #3
Almost certainly not. Youtube has a policy MineralMan Mar 2012 #7
Huh, I thought they already did that. eShirl Mar 2012 #2
No worries here. I don't download pirated MineralMan Mar 2012 #4
I disagree. randome Mar 2012 #5
Depends on what the file contains. MineralMan Mar 2012 #6
how do you know it is copyrighted before you download it? d_r Mar 2012 #8
And, on the sites where those videos, games, and music MineralMan Mar 2012 #9
What if you must download the work in order to use the product you purchased? Occulus Mar 2012 #10
With P2P systems, free and copyrighted works are lumped together. randome Mar 2012 #12
When someone loans you a CD, they no longer have MineralMan Mar 2012 #16
I don't think the owner gets to determine as much as you think. randome Mar 2012 #18
Here is an example d_r Mar 2012 #20
Remember - it never was or will be about copyright - it's about maximizing profits. Initech Mar 2012 #11
Copyright exists to make sure the owner of a work can profit from it. MineralMan Mar 2012 #17
But you could argue that the property creator isnt the copyright holder. Initech Mar 2012 #21
On a case-by-case basis. MineralMan Mar 2012 #23
"it won't yet lead to a total cut off" BadgerKid Mar 2012 #13
I sincerely doubt this will be allowed to go forward. randome Mar 2012 #14
You mean inspecting content? BadgerKid Mar 2012 #15
Yeah, you're probably right. randome Mar 2012 #19
Would VPN's make this whole thing useless? Zalatix Mar 2012 #22
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