Like most of your assertions, that would be a lie, my friend. (Reply #295)

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Fri Jan 10, 2014, 07:19 PM

zappaman (20,596 posts)

295. Like most of your assertions, that would be a lie, my friend.

First post in journal:

I should be flattered you googled me!
Bush is a big stinky man and so are his offspring....particularly Jeb, Dubya, and Neil.
Happy now?

So, tell me...are you accusing Gerald Ford as being an accessory to the assassination of JFK?

Or will you just evade the question as usual?

Why do you lie like that, Octafish?

ETA: to make clear what was my journal entry by italicizing.

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307 replies	Author	Time	Post
NBC News: Mysterious California Crop Circle plowed over [View all]	Berlum	Jan 2014	OP
Occam's Razor -	Dash87	Jan 2014	#1
Too bad.	darkangel218	Jan 2014	#2
It's too square to be a crop circle. nt	Xipe Totec	Jan 2014	#3
Would this qualify?	Berlum	Jan 2014	#7
Remember this one?...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#12
Hahahaa....	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#4
It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!	X_Digger	Jan 2014	#6
Is that Braille or Conway's Life in the middle?	longship	Jan 2014	#8
Ahhh...	greytdemocrat	Jan 2014	#10
Looks like a CPU mask	ryan_cats	Jan 2014	#18
Exactly!!! n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2014	#42
"Aerial photographer"	pintobean	Jan 2014	#11
Heheh...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#13
Lol. Great minds	pintobean	Jan 2014	#17
The chemtrails made him do it!!	trotsky	Jan 2014	#186
This one was pretty interesting, sort of relaxing to sit and stare at it!	RKP5637	Jan 2014	#5
local link...	hunter	Jan 2014	#9
Other than Uri Geller, has any other "phenomenon" been as thoroughly debunked?	Orrex	Jan 2014	#14
Hey, are you the Scientific Materialist claque?	arcane1	Jan 2014	#16
I brush between scientific materialist meals to eliminate scientific materialist claque	Orrex	Jan 2014	#21
Some scientists...	liberalmuse	Jan 2014	#208
Scientists are frequently fooled by hucksters and charlatans like Geller...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#210
"Scientific Materialist claque"?	Vashta Nerada	Jan 2014	#15
Those are so damn cool.	Autumn	Jan 2014	#19
The idiot is the guy who created his artwork without permission...	Iggo	Jan 2014	#103
Weird.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#20
A good plan and a few simple surveying tools.	pintobean	Jan 2014	#22
Tractor and GPS...	onpatrol98	Jan 2014	#36
Of course we can explain it. nt	RedCappedBandit	Jan 2014	#23
Hahahahaaha	zappaman	Jan 2014	#24
My thoughts exactly. n/t	X_Digger	Jan 2014	#27
+1...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#31
Bingo. This rather puts Octafish's obsession with JFK CTs in perspective, does it not?	stopbush	Jan 2014	#93
No. It demonstrates the lengths certain posters will go to smear me.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#96
and in the 25 years since you think they MIGHT have an explanation?	ProdigalJunkMail	Jan 2014	#116
That's the thing.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#121
As usual, your interpretation of history is wrong...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#122
You practice what you accuse others of doing.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#128
Your credulity at every CT and bit of woo is becoming legend, octafish...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#129
Smearing me must be your objective; it's not mine.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#134
I don't smear you. You smear yourself...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#138
If you want to practice science, you would search for truth.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#150
bltresearch?...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#151
Has BLT Research	edhopper	Jan 2014	#154
Now you've made me hungry...	zappaman	Jan 2014	#159
I am as anti-woo as they come, SidDithers, but Octafish is a good DUer	Heidi	Jan 2014	#233
And, as usual, when the "evidence" is debunked, it gets ignored.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#174
So, we have a tall tale and a drawing	pintobean	Jan 2014	#127
Er, the late 1980s were 25 years ago.	stopbush	Jan 2014	#190
Show where I've intentionally lied or presented information that was not true on DU.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#192
I can't read your mind to divine your intentions.	stopbush	Jan 2014	#197
Nailed it!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#199
How telling.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#201
Awwwwww.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#202
That reads like what Allen Dulles and J Edgar Hoover wrote.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#200
As for Crop Circles, no where did I post who or what created them. As far as I know, no one knows."	zappaman	Jan 2014	#203
If I had, I wouldn't have bothered pointing it out.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#205
Good luck with your investigation of "The Mysterious Crop Circle Mystery"!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#206
When all you have is ridicule, zappaman...	Octafish	Jan 2014	#214
ok	zappaman	Jan 2014	#307
Posting a bunch of links to your own DU posts isn't exactly proof of anything	stopbush	Jan 2014	#217
True. What it shows is how wrong you are.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#218
Isn't it funny how someone can imagine all kinds	zappaman	Jan 2014	#219
And even funnier how they cling to the tangential, while rejecting that for which	stopbush	Jan 2014	#221
Well said...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#193
How brave.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#194
Waah...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#195
Really?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#196
when everything you posit has been thoroughly debunked over and over and over... it makes you look a	dionysus	Jan 2014	#278
If you think that is so, you are wrong.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#287
i take your attempted insult as a badge of honor!	dionysus	Jan 2014	#288
You've no Journal or any memorable posts.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#289
Yeah	zappaman	Jan 2014	#290
does this mean i have to post a shit ton of woo to make myself more memorable?	dionysus	Jan 2014	#293
Don't forget allegations that you never can back up when challenged!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#297
i, sir, am an astronaut. has that one been taken yet?	dionysus	Jan 2014	#302
Heh. I remember your journal when it first started, zappaman.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#294
Like most of your assertions, that would be a lie, my friend.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#295
Where did I lie, zappaman?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#298
Is your computer broken?	zappaman	Jan 2014	#299
Implying something I did not write does not make it so.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#300
LOL!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#301
How does my stating: 'I remember your journal when it first started, zappaman' constitute a lie?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#303
Because the post you copied wasn't when it "first started"!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#304
Mitchell and Webb do Scooby Doo...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#306
Lee Harvey Oswald made a crop circle on the grassy knoll.	Orrex	Jan 2014	#228
I'd love to hear the naysayers explain that one.	seattledo	Jan 2014	#25
Yes, humans can't be precise.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#26
Well, circles and squares are notoriously hard to make...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#39
Not at all. A guy upthread claims he could do it with a tractor and a GPS.	librechik	Jan 2014	#167
Who says they're created by drunks?...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#30
Who says they have to be drunk? Or that it was only two of them?	arcane1	Jan 2014	#32
Too precise for drunks, so it must be....	Brickbat	Jan 2014	#34
You start with a drawing, then grab a couple tall stakes, some string, and some boards.	X_Digger	Jan 2014	#35
Some of us love math.	Codeine	Jan 2014	#48
A handful of guys with boards made these works of crop circle art.	Codeine	Jan 2014	#52
Got a link to that?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#59
Here's where the images came from:	arcane1	Jan 2014	#68
Obviously, aliens made that site to throw us off.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#69
I'm kind of curious about this "Mirage Men" documentary now	arcane1	Jan 2014	#76
Big deal. That website is hawking a book. They do not show they made anything...	Octafish	Jan 2014	#94
What? That site is full of videos of them making circles.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#145
Not the circles depicted in those images.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#147
So if there is no video of humans making that one, then humans didn't make it?	arcane1	Jan 2014	#160
Duh.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#161
The claim was that the site made the ones illustrated.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#163
I only claimed that the site is where the photos came from.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#171
That's because you only look at select woo-sites.	Codeine	Jan 2014	#75
!!!!!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#77
No, as nothing at that website shows them making the crop circles pictured.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#95
So, unlike what you wrote, there is no video of people making those particular crop circles?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#227
This one of Sarah Palin definitely made by aliens	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#271
Several farmers enjoy creating art in their fields.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#274
Do we have video of the artists creating that?	zappaman	Jan 2014	#296
This one took 2 nights to make...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#62
How do we know they weren't aliens?	Hassin Bin Sober	Jan 2014	#143
any idea how long it took to make those? How many is "a handful"?	solarhydrocan	Jan 2014	#182
Your set of alternatives is a couple of yahoos or the fantastic?	cthulu2016	Jan 2014	#80
And they were drunk!	arcane1	Jan 2014	#81
You are claiming it was not humans??? nt	Logical	Jan 2014	#109
I'd love to hear the yaysayers explain why EVERY SINGLE ONE of these "mysterious" things	sibelian	Jan 2014	#207
Don't worry, some of DU's best investigators are on the case!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#216
I think the BFEE makes 'em...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#28
Yup, they are just testing their earthquake and weather making machines.	FSogol	Jan 2014	#113
Fascinating! I hadn't seen that one. Incredible. Thanks for posting.	solarhydrocan	Jan 2014	#37
that's amazing	Liberal_in_LA	Jan 2014	#41
Green for victory!!...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#44
Holy shit. do you actually believe the tripe you just posted?	Codeine	Jan 2014	#49
Did I say that I believed the external content I posted?	solarhydrocan	Jan 2014	#180
You do realize that those are not the only two people who make these things, right?	arcane1	Jan 2014	#188
Thank you for the information on that amazing image.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#64
...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#66
Proof there is no limit to human gullibility.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#67
What really frustrates me:	arcane1	Jan 2014	#70
Shhhhh!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#71
You actually believe we put a man on the moon?	pintobean	Jan 2014	#73
Now you've done it.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#74
What the real mystery seems to be- is why it bothers you and your ilk so much?	notadmblnd	Jan 2014	#149
Credulity Kills	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#204
LOLZ. I bet the OP is a big History Channel watcher	Viking12	Jan 2014	#198
I love Giorgio!	Amaril	Jan 2014	#215
he has never been as stoned, or had his hair bouffed out so much, since that day...	dionysus	Jan 2014	#281
Hey Sid	pintobean	Jan 2014	#82
Hawkeye's an ass...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#85
I disagree	pintobean	Jan 2014	#87
You're Mr. Research right? If you spent any time looking into these phenomenon	snooper2	Jan 2014	#119
Condescension suits you perfectly.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#125
LOL	snooper2	Jan 2014	#133
Here's how a Thinker put it...	Octafish	Jan 2014	#146
The gullibility of the crop circle suckers is truly amazing: "Confession Hollow" !	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#284
Thanks for this great post.	democratisphere	Jan 2014	#158
Look at the lengths decoders go to:	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#280
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2014	#38
Uhh, we can explain it just fine.	NutmegYankee	Jan 2014	#40
+1, n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2014	#43
"Can't explain"? Except that whole part where they've been totally fucking explained, right?	Codeine	Jan 2014	#47
Please.	sagat	Jan 2014	#50
Here's an explanation and demonstration of the phenomenon	pintobean	Jan 2014	#51
They're sober, doing hard work, with meticulous planning	arcane1	Jan 2014	#54
All the kids at my high school with straight A's were alien spawn.	Coyotl	Jan 2014	#118
I hear you	arikara	Jan 2014	#83
you just might be a big silly	NJCher	Jan 2014	#86
When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras. n/t	X_Digger	Jan 2014	#89
I couldn't agree more	NJCher	Jan 2014	#91
Thanks for nothin' ET. We already figured out PI. Tell us something new. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jan 2014	#92
Weird	William Seger	Jan 2014	#98
Yes, you nailed the stupidest point of the assertion	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#137
Did the Amazing Randi tell you that, jberryhill?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#250
LOL!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#251
What's really goofy	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#253
Standard Operating Procedure.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#255
How many times did you meet Frank Zappa, zappaman?	Octafish	Jan 2014	#260
17 and a half.	zappaman	Jan 2014	#285
Only in your paranoid imagination	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#252
Yes, but he has talked to astronauts!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#254
As a point in fact, I have	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#256
Did you ask them where these "mysterious" crop circles came from?	zappaman	Jan 2014	#257
Remarkably, it didn't occur to me to ask, no.	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#258
''Paranoid Imagination.''	Octafish	Jan 2014	#262
"That's the language the FBI disinformation artists used"	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#264
You misunderstood: Followers of Amazing Randi use similar techniques as the FBI.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#267
Yeah, you know what else McCarthyites and disinfo peddlers do?	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#269
Not my job.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#272
Denigrating you?	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#275
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2014	#110
Why would aliens encode a decimal number?	jberryhill	Jan 2014	#140
Indeed, why would the Simpsons use base 10?	William Seger	Jan 2014	#230
Mocking people has nothing to do with "democratic" ideals. It has to do with making your case.	MADem	Jan 2014	#142
Sigh...what's next, flat earth?	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#243
Gee. I don't recall treating other DUers like I've been treated on this thread.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#248
I don't have explanations for every single crop circle ever made.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#249
I brought up the astronauts because you brought up the flat earth.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#261
Oh FFS...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#263
SidDithers, DU's friend of what is and what should be.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#265
Monitoring?...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#266
''Don't fucking flatter yourself''? You're the one who said it, Dude.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#270
"Certainly some, if not most, are man-made. Some, however, have no plausible explanation"...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#276
The thing is Sid...	CanSocDem	Jan 2014	#279
Thanks for your comments...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#282
I will be keeping an eye on you!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#291
crop circles	Skittles	Jan 2014	#29
Now THAT I can believe!	arcane1	Jan 2014	#33
"Scientific Materialist" - those nasty people that insist on actual evidence...	Archae	Jan 2014	#45
I guess you are still bummed you can't post about "chemtrails"...	zappaman	Jan 2014	#46
WARNING: You are having forbidden thoughts & using forbidden words	Berlum	Jan 2014	#57
There's certainly nothing natural	pintobean	Jan 2014	#58
Nice picture of contrails...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#60
Dude, take your meds. Seriously.	LeftyMom	Jan 2014	#90
It looks to me like you're taunting admin	pintobean	Jan 2014	#156
Not everything is a conspiracy. Some things are just bullshit.	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#305
Please let me know if you think aliens did this. Because I will laugh. n-t	Logical	Jan 2014	#53
I'm with Dusty Smith on this one.	Gore1FL	Jan 2014	#55
Logic.	Iggo	Jan 2014	#104
You think a Japanese utility has something to do with flattened plants in Salinas?	LeftyMom	Jan 2014	#56
I was wondering that myself.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#61
I hope the OP is busy writing a script.	LeftyMom	Jan 2014	#63
The OP is a plain and simple news report from NBC News...	Berlum	Jan 2014	#100
Um, it wasn't "scientific materialists of yesteryear" who persecuted Galileo	William Seger	Jan 2014	#141
They were locked into their narrow perception of reality...so	Berlum	Jan 2014	#162
So words mean whatever you want them to mean	William Seger	Jan 2014	#166
Why do you keep equating people creating crop circles	sufrommich	Jan 2014	#168
It's a deliberate attempt to discredit the claim that hu7mans created the circles.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#172
Amazing, isn't it...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#169
I'll watch the movie too if it has MindMobsters	cemaphonic	Jan 2014	#220
So, when is the OP going to admit that they were wonky-woo about the original crop circle	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#241
No point in doing actual research?	Berlum	Jan 2014	#244
No point in this case or any crop circle case.	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#245
Spreading falsehoods just casts Scientific Materialists in an uglier light	Berlum	Jan 2014	#246
You wrote:	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#247
Ooo Corporate deception! Aliens!	Bernardo de La Paz	Jan 2014	#268
You know historically it's been woo pushers that have conspired against science	NuclearDem	Jan 2014	#242
Nah. I never said that. No need to set up a straw man	Berlum	Jan 2014	#120
Have you seen the amazing beach sand artist of New Zealand? He's not anonymous....	Hekate	Jan 2014	#65
Beautiful! They are being done in snow too.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#72
Proof that aliens use doilies.	pintobean	Jan 2014	#99
That is incredible. Stunning and beautiful. Thanks for posting!	solarhydrocan	Jan 2014	#181
The snow patterns are done by just one guy, Simon Beck	arcane1	Jan 2014	#187
So cool - thanks for posting!	polichick	Jan 2014	#191
If you want a good laugh!	Rosa Luxemburg	Jan 2014	#78
Um... the Scientific Materialist claque is Responsible for this	cthulu2016	Jan 2014	#79
Aliens mapped out the streets of Washington DC	arcane1	Jan 2014	#84
Resembles an old pentium processor. N/T	beevul	Jan 2014	#88
You scientific materialists are so predictable	mathematic	Jan 2014	#97
Nice satire n/t.	edhopper	Jan 2014	#152
Finally...a thread to compete with the moon bombing one...nt	msanthrope	Jan 2014	#101
They're obviously pissed about that	pintobean	Jan 2014	#102
They can do one in my yard and then ...	LisaLynne	Jan 2014	#124
That looks like it was made by a wind turbine blade. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2014	#157
no, 3 meters of hail fell precisely, then melted, leaving no trace....	dionysus	Jan 2014	#286
3 meters, which is also 60cms!	zappaman	Jan 2014	#292
Shame on NBC for calling crop circles "mysterious".	sufrommich	Jan 2014	#105
When in doubt...	CanSocDem	Jan 2014	#106
There is no "mystery". Google	sufrommich	Jan 2014	#107
What's the mystery?...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#108
The mystery...	CanSocDem	Jan 2014	#112
So unsolved arson fires might be aliens? nt	Logical	Jan 2014	#115
What are you talking about...??? (eom)	CanSocDem	Jan 2014	#117
So the mystery of crop circles is	sufrommich	Jan 2014	#123
Mystery solved!!	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#235
It's like finding graffiti mysterious.	Brickbat	Jan 2014	#135
Perfect analogy...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#139
Hmm..."STRING"...hmm...	Iggo	Jan 2014	#155
'String' - I have a theory about that...	MineralMan	Jan 2014	#175
Is there any made up shit you don't believe? Ghosts? Esp? Astrology? nt	Logical	Jan 2014	#111
uh...no?!? (eom)	CanSocDem	Jan 2014	#114
Wow, what higher intelligence could have left such a message?	Glassunion	Jan 2014	#126
the circles are obviously alien college frat pranks n/t	Godhumor	Jan 2014	#130
Unpossible	Glassunion	Jan 2014	#131
They do it for the same reason Jesus	sufrommich	Jan 2014	#132
Or maybe, they are so smart, their efforts to communicate to us seem dumb.	Glassunion	Jan 2014	#136
NononononononononoNO. Not QUITE entirely right.	sibelian	Jan 2014	#209
I humbly stand corrected. lol. nt	sufrommich	Jan 2014	#212
Spooky Jesusoid would be great name for a band...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#213
Space trolls	Hassin Bin Sober	Jan 2014	#144
yep	Glassunion	Jan 2014	#148
" I saw Bigfoot once.	edhopper	Jan 2014	#153
The quotation marks around that statement make me nervous.	Iggo	Jan 2014	#222
Movie reference	edhopper	Jan 2014	#223
Heheheh.	Iggo	Jan 2014	#224
I like how by debunking some crop circles, all crop circles are discounted as a hoax.	cbdo2007	Jan 2014	#164
No they are all real	edhopper	Jan 2014	#165
That's like saying all cave drawings are a hoax because someone last year made	cbdo2007	Jan 2014	#170
Huh?	arcane1	Jan 2014	#173
No one's saying cave drawings were made by space aliens.	Iggo	Jan 2014	#179
That is as it should be. The burden of proof falls on the extraordinary.	cthulu2016	Jan 2014	#176
It was both	pintobean	Jan 2014	#184
bEST.vOLKSWAGEN.eVER.	Iggo	Jan 2014	#185
So your argument...	jeff47	Jan 2014	#226
Show me one that couldn't have been made by humans...	Orsino	Jan 2014	#229
Never underestimate the creativity and perseverance of	MineralMan	Jan 2014	#177
curious which crop the artist vandalized to make this...	Deep13	Jan 2014	#178
I live fairly close to the farm in question	senseandsensibility	Jan 2014	#183
In a circle-making site linked elsewhere in this thread...	arcane1	Jan 2014	#189
ARE WE sure it wasn't made by the	yuiyoshida	Jan 2014	#211
That's not the USC Trojan Marching Band.	stopbush	Jan 2014	#231
Tepco?	Pretzel_Warrior	Jan 2014	#225
Nvidia Promotes New Chip With Crop Circle	Crabby Appleton	Jan 2014	#232
Obviously, Nvidia is getting their technology from aliens	pintobean	Jan 2014	#237
A crummy commercial? Sonuvabitch!	MineralMan	Jan 2014	#240
Crop circle: No, it wasn't aliens, it was marketers	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#234
Obviously, modern processor technology comes from space aliens.	arcane1	Jan 2014	#239
The only mystery about crop circles is why do people believe aliens did it?	hobbit709	Jan 2014	#236
lol! Yup.	HappyMe	Jan 2014	#238
So to get a million smart ass replies, all I have to do is type 'Scientific Materialist claque'?	Rex	Jan 2014	#259
Condescension makes a certain class of mind feel superior.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#273
I knew from the first days in 2001, a very special type of DUer	Rex	Jan 2014	#277
Wow. Just wow. This thread is just a study in how fucking mean DU has become.	ScreamingMeemie	Jan 2014	#283

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