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Igel

(35,282 posts)
51. Rather the contrary.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jan 2014

People like Newton believed in alchemy. They developed methods to test it, to try to improve it. But what alchemy was after, the claims it made, the predictions it made, all failed. That this went on for centuries before observation and prediction were considered important enough to count for much of anything is truly impressive.

Alchemy died. The methods that were finally responsible for its death lived on because what they produced was rigorous, predictive, and observationally grounded. They were not, however, derived from alchemy itself.

Similarly, astronomy grew out of the corpse of astrology, but it took a rethinking of the entire meaning of the observations to reach that observation. Astrology lives in, rather unchanged since before astronomy really established itself. Astronomy, however, has produced some rather startling insights.

It's rather like saying we get broccoli from dirt, so nutritionally there's no difference between the vitamin content of broccoli and clay.

Woo shaming [View all] B2G Jan 2014 OP
Shame on woo! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #1
lol Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #7
Poor Mason Woo! icymist Jan 2014 #55
What the hell is Woo? vi5 Jan 2014 #2
I don't think it's an acronym. Phlem Jan 2014 #6
Please don't tell me you're saying Homeopathy, Crystals are current science. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #11
If they weren't many others are... gcomeau Jan 2014 #13
No that's not what I'm saying. Phlem Jan 2014 #14
Well, your post was not clear to me. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #16
try re reading my post, I've updated it. Phlem Jan 2014 #17
OK. I reread it. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #19
If one believes you can dilute something out of existence and think the memory. Phlem Jan 2014 #22
Wow. So quick to reply to all my posts until this one. How very courteous of you. Phlem Jan 2014 #24
I am at work, actually, so can't always reply right away. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #26
I have PTSD since early child hood from an abusive stepfather Phlem Jan 2014 #29
Sorry about your PTSD HERVEPA Jan 2014 #30
Do you believe in work, HERVEPA? MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #34
Read the frigging stream of posts HERVEPA Jan 2014 #62
"why don't just stick it…" ??? MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #63
'Winning Others Over' according to the Gallup Business Journal icymist Jan 2014 #60
ideas considered irrational or based on extremely flimsy evidence or that appeal to mysterious... PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #23
You could say that about a lot so science. Cleita Jan 2014 #36
Look, don't pull me into this flame fest. I have no dog in this fight. I was just answering the ? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #37
Well try a different definition. Cleita Jan 2014 #40
yes, I fucking said it was derogatory. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #45
What issues do you have with quantum mechanics? n/t Gore1FL Jan 2014 #44
Perhaps that it's a decent model. Igel Jan 2014 #49
A decent model?!!! athena Jan 2014 #52
What would you say about quantum mechanics, again? athena Jan 2014 #48
Except that quantum physics actually makes testable predictions that are verified by experiment. Salviati Jan 2014 #54
Nobody has denied that. Cleita Jan 2014 #61
Alchemy used to be "woo" to most people, but now it's part of what we call chemistry. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #43
Neat! PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #46
Rather the contrary. Igel Jan 2014 #51
willful stupidity nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #53
World Of Outlaws icymist Jan 2014 #56
This Atman Jan 2014 #3
Woo should be ashamed! L0oniX Jan 2014 #4
He should, but he is probably a Republican, so he has no shame. RC Jan 2014 #42
If there is a hell I should burn in it WITH SHAME get the red out Jan 2014 #5
For Shame! Phlem Jan 2014 #8
Herbal tea is good. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #12
woo is me. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9
Woo should be shamed. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #10
I see nothing wrong with this store icymist Jan 2014 #59
But together, you've created something hilarious and true! reformist2 Jan 2014 #15
I believe you meant to say twoo. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #18
How could I miss that! lol reformist2 Jan 2014 #25
How about "woo shaming and consensus privilege"? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #20
Woosh! Puzzledtraveller Jan 2014 #21
OK, I'm a fan of some things that are scientifically proven but are being called Squinch Jan 2014 #27
And the biggest "woo" offender of all Phlem Jan 2014 #28
"Woo Shaming" is so excellent, that I just submitted it to Urban Dictionary. Thanks! Ian David Jan 2014 #31
Nice! B2G Jan 2014 #32
The first instance I could find of the phrase was a Facebook posting from 2012. Ian David Jan 2014 #35
Lol...I didn't Google it so I'm surprised B2G Jan 2014 #38
Pretty much. Just you and a couple others, as far as I can tell. n/t Ian David Jan 2014 #39
I prefer my woo in entertainment form. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #33
I here ya B2G Phlem Jan 2014 #41
Shame on failed scientific experiments that created generations of heartbreak. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #47
Can I buy you a beer? Drahthaardogs Jan 2014 #50
Why the fuck is everyone so infatuated with the Sham Woo guy madinmaryland Jan 2014 #57
Was it really that bad a movie? icymist Jan 2014 #58
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