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In reply to the discussion: Man Over pays Child Support, And visits his son too much, Sentenced to 180 Days in Jail [View all]newcriminal
(2,190 posts)144. Bullshit.
Most lawyers are not any closer to that 1% as the rest of the 99%.
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Man Over pays Child Support, And visits his son too much, Sentenced to 180 Days in Jail [View all]
Heather MC
Jan 2014
OP
I have never understood why two people that claimed to have loved each other dearly
bluestate10
Jan 2014
#2
Do you work for free? Or are you upset you had to pay for the problems you helped create?
last1standing
Jan 2014
#32
Yes there are a few & we know who they are (talking in terms of local bars)
WolverineDG
Jan 2014
#192
LOL. Anything to keep from having to take responsibility for your own problems.
last1standing
Jan 2014
#228
"Nobody said anything about anyone giving anything away." Isn't that what you wrote?
last1standing
Jan 2014
#244
Wow... we used a "family law" attorney when my husband adopted our daughter...
ScreamingMeemie
Jan 2014
#39
You know most family law attorneys would be happy just to charge a flat fee
WolverineDG
Jan 2014
#191
Yup, my lawyer did the same to me, charged me full hours when split his actual time with several ..
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#108
Fraudulent billing is standard & customary practice in the legal profession.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#133
Which has nothing at all to do with the point made. Want to try again? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#169
I had my lawyer call me, keep me on the phone for an hour and sent me a bill for $200.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#152
Yes, they could be "working". No way to verify anything really. Just "trust me".
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#172
Even better, you can simply claim to have been thinking about a case and bill it.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#171
So in order to "play the game" you feel I must subject myself to fraudulent billing?
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#209
I think lawyers charge exorbitant fees. Not that they have to work for free.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#109
Where does it say that he "overpays his child support and visits his son too much"?
Sheldon Cooper
Jan 2014
#3
I used to work with somebody who couldn't get the State of California off his back
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Jan 2014
#31
I have been a member of the DU "racist hetero patriarchy" for some time
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Jan 2014
#98
As a divorced dad it's my experience that child "support" systems often start with the assumption
villager
Jan 2014
#36
Yes, it's severely scary for fathers out there. The system is just itching to screw them!
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#50
Actually, non-custodial parents of either gender. For a time my ex had custody of my child
GreenEyedLefty
Jan 2014
#142
"Judge Millard tells Fox 26 after she found Hall in contempt he walked out of the courtroom"
Gravitycollapse
Jan 2014
#8
Yes, but he gets paystubs and he knows that he has a child support obligation.
LeftyMom
Jan 2014
#22
I have a friend at work that overpaid by around $6000 because of HER not reporting income!
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#51
Yes, but if the change was not made previously because of the receiving parent's fraud,
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#174
Oh no, I meant to send the check to the CSPA (or local equivalent) NOT to the custodial parent.
LeftyMom
Jan 2014
#55
Also, if he was showing up fore visits (unscheduled) when he shouldn't be that is an issue itself.
boston bean
Jan 2014
#123
What bothers me is that he is being threatened with jail. Throw him in jail and it ruins
madinmaryland
Jan 2014
#27
I personally don't mind the payroll deduction. It ensures I know it is paid and that there are ...
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#49
This exposes the fact that in the family court system, men are treated like garbage.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#33
The feeling you get as a dad in the system is that "all are guilty," axiomatically
villager
Jan 2014
#40
Do you feel threatened by the notion of a man wanting equal rights to his children and...
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#46
Reread your post! You accused women of driving men away and exploiting them for money.
LeftyMom
Jan 2014
#60
You said she's on welfare. They don't give that out to people who are living well.
LeftyMom
Jan 2014
#88
She barely works, she gets $500+ a month on food stamps, my money, tax money (yes EIC included),
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#97
Her not doing well is her CHOICE. She knows she doesn't HAVE to work because ...
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#115
I know everybody has stories. We should all be working for a system that doesn't create these
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#175
Because she gets to claim them because the judge says she gets to claim them.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#151
Exactly. Men fighting that system in order to become an equal parent under the law shows...
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#77
When it really comes down to it. A lot of mothers (not all) really don't want the fathers around.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#80
So the experiences we have as fathers of being treated a certain way by the system...
villager
Jan 2014
#81
So he's part of the system. If he doesn't see there's a bias, then he's lying.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#61
When joint custody is not the default arrangement, the system will always favor women
Major Nikon
Jan 2014
#93
So a man that did the right thing and supported his family BEFORE the divorce,
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#106
So you're saying that men who worked before the divorce aren't equal parents
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#114
First, you've assumed that the father just isn't normally capable of being an equal parent
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#116
I didn't misquote you at all. If the father worked, the mother should have the upper hand.
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#118
Again I never said if the Father works the Mother should have the upper hand.
newcriminal
Jan 2014
#121
Joint physical should not be the default because it does not adequately address the needs of the
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#183
But when you change the default, you but an unreasonable burden on the primary caregiver,
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#189
First, a default that does not take into account the well-being of the child is patently
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#202
Custodial orders don't even happen unless the parents can't work them out on their own
Major Nikon
Jan 2014
#220
I think you haven't read the law you are touting. And if you have read it, you haven't
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#229
Equal parenting is not always in the best interests of the child. Sorry....but it's not. You are
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#234
Anecdotal evidence is shit and you either already know it or should know it
Major Nikon
Jan 2014
#237
I didn't give you anecdotal evidence. I gave you valid hypos which underscore the bad law you tout.
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#238
You are the one advocating for a change in law, it is you who must provide proof that
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#240
You are using a 20-year old study to justify precisely, what? What I am not understanding
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#247
I'm not disagreeing with you that shared parenting is a good thing when it is in the best interests
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#249
The ones that want to participate in their child's life. The ones that don't mind paying a
Darkhawk32
Jan 2014
#101
He'll lose. He admits there was an arrearage and he is responsible for that. Further
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#186
Carefully reading between the lines, this person was screwing around with the support and
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#187