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RobertEarl

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104. Yes, reactor #3 has MOX fuel
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 09:09 PM
Jan 2014

There has been some talk about reactor #4 also having MOX fuel. But Tepco has not copped to that.

Not only is the plutonium more deadly than uranium, it is also more reactive, meaning it gets hotter faster. There was a report from a few years ago about an American NPP operator who tried some MOX fuel at the request of the US government. Seems a lot of plutonium from old weapons has been building up and the Department of Energy folks needed to find a way to make use of that excess plutonium.

So, they stuck it in a reactor as an experiment. The operator soon discovered that - the story goes - the MOX fuel got too hot, too fast, expanding considerably, almost making it impossible to remove or control. End of experiment, in the US. Seems Tepco gave it a go?

Given that reactor #3 blew up like it did, it could be that its MOX got too hot, too fast, and BOOM!

There are a couple of plutonium recycling reactors being built. One in Japan that I'm sure of. That Japanese plant is way past the budget and time frame and still not open for recycling. Frankly, the plutonium is very hard to handle. Our US plant, in Hanford, Washington State, is a money pit full of plutonium filled tanks that are leaking.

Each reactor using uranium produces plutonium, so every day more and more plutonium is being produced and we have yet to figure out a way to safely contain it for its thousands of years life span.

Kinda crazy, ain't it?

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2014 #1
Oh, dear me. There is no plume, there are a lot of CT sites however. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #24
This happened in July 2013 kristopher Jan 2014 #35
Yeah. Heat, water, steam, whoda thunk? But at least please get the timeframe right. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #39
Tepco link about the steam rising recently RobertEarl Jan 2014 #79
i went back to bradblog coverage at the time questionseverything Jan 2014 #98
Yes, reactor #3 has MOX fuel RobertEarl Jan 2014 #104
Sarcasm alert - you left out the part about nuclear power being a truedelphi Jan 2014 #105
I just hope and pray that there wont be another severe earthquake in the area darkangel218 Jan 2014 #2
Note: source for article is Arnie Gundersen. longship Jan 2014 #3
+1...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #6
Where did you see Arnie Gundersen as "the source" for this article? BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #7
The "Possibility 3" point of the Ecologist article links to Fairewinds... SidDithers Jan 2014 #8
Thanks, Sid. I was about to post about Fairewinds longship Jan 2014 #9
The link to Hal Turner is more problematic, IMO... SidDithers Jan 2014 #10
You're rather quick to dismiss Arnie Gundersen BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #14
I don't have to take anybody like Gundersen seriously. longship Jan 2014 #25
LOL !!! - Try Reversing That Thought, For A Moment... WillyT Jan 2014 #43
WillyT longship Jan 2014 #48
It Challenges The "Official Narrative"... WillyT Jan 2014 #67
The burden of proof is on people like Gundersen. longship Jan 2014 #68
No... The Burden Of Proof Is On The Industry, The Regulators, And Our Elected Officials... WillyT Jan 2014 #69
I have to agree with that as well, WillyT. longship Jan 2014 #71
Best Regards Back Attcha... WillyT Jan 2014 #73
Yes, I was aware of that. But the OP is about the steam plumes, and they are fact, not conjecture. BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #12
Sorry, getting back after dinner... SidDithers Jan 2014 #41
thanks for your perspective BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #96
How is he not credible, longship? Cooley Hurd Jan 2014 #23
So he and his followers claim. longship Jan 2014 #29
So, because his organization if for-profit, he's not credible? Cooley Hurd Jan 2014 #50
He's not credible because he writes things without any data to back it up. longship Jan 2014 #59
So you would simply dismiss it because you dont like Gundersen? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #28
The problem is that you're not getting the facts from him either. longship Jan 2014 #31
The article thinks Hal Turner is a credible source of information... SidDithers Jan 2014 #47
It seems that Tepco admits that "mysterious steam" is coming from the plant. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #53
Hal Turner. Credible or not?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #57
Are you trying to argue your case by asking questions? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #60
No, I'm trying to ask you if you think Hal Turner is a credible source... SidDithers Jan 2014 #61
You seem to be focused on controlling what is seen by the rest of us. I appreciate rhett o rick Jan 2014 #63
Not willing to take a stand on Hal Turner, eh?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #64
What I am not going to do is follow your attempt at deflection. Have a good evening. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #77
You are attempting to have a conversation with a poster Aerows Jan 2014 #84
And I was attempting a discussion with a GD Host... SidDithers Jan 2014 #91
Well, opinions vary Aerows Jan 2014 #93
+1 darkangel218 Jan 2014 #81
I'm with you Aerows Jan 2014 #82
Thanks Aerows!! darkangel218 Jan 2014 #85
I hope that with 2014 we are all blessed Aerows Jan 2014 #86
Your signature is a loon with a tin foil hat Aerows Jan 2014 #83
I'm wondering why I should care what you're wondering... SidDithers Jan 2014 #90
You shouldn't n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #94
I don't...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #95
Kindness isn't weakness Aerows Jan 2014 #103
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #4
The Japanese gov't admits TEPCO can't handle this crisis alone. pa28 Jan 2014 #5
I didn't know GD was supposed to be a forum for woo. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #11
Do you like road kill? MyNameGoesHere Jan 2014 #21
What? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #26
Exactly MyNameGoesHere Jan 2014 #38
How do you know it's woo? Can you refute any of it? nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #22
Sid Dithers and longship covered that upthread. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #27
Sid Dithers told you it was woo and that's all you need? Why not do some research and rhett o rick Jan 2014 #30
Oh good grief. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #33
Yes. I dont know any thing about him. Is he on some list and is forbidden to be discussed rhett o rick Jan 2014 #45
Agree...this poster says some other posters have implied something wrong KoKo Jan 2014 #51
I have some problems with the explanations provided by the article but do rhett o rick Jan 2014 #62
But if someone on DU says it is woo, truedelphi Jan 2014 #100
Yes...if "someone on DU says it's WOO" it seems to be that way... KoKo Jan 2014 #101
No, that's not how it works. longship Jan 2014 #42
So if Tepco came out and made a statement about the status of the plant, would you call that woo? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #49
I would expect them to also publish their data. longship Jan 2014 #54
I am glad that you seem to believe in discussing issues instead of locking them or hiding them. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #58
He writes things that are untrue. longship Jan 2014 #66
My gawd, where to begin? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #80
Well. longship Jan 2014 #87
The discussion is about you RobertEarl Jan 2014 #88
Sorry you want to make this personal. longship Jan 2014 #89
The proof is the responsibility of the claimer. Real proof. n-t Logical Jan 2014 #44
He is speculating. It's done all the time. Every tv pundit speculates. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #97
"Relax. They're just venting a little steam." bvar22 Jan 2014 #13
+1 villager Jan 2014 #16
Same to ya. bvar22 Jan 2014 #20
One is still with us madokie Jan 2014 #32
I think I've encountered her suffragette Jan 2014 #46
This is why I am banned from E&E RobertEarl Jan 2014 #70
Wow. That's messed up. suffragette Jan 2014 #74
That and you posted nonsense. zappaman Jan 2014 #75
I asked her to put you on ignore too XemaSab Jan 2014 #76
So, now everyone knows the Truth RobertEarl Jan 2014 #78
I won't see her, thankfully. chervilant Jan 2014 #72
bravo heaven05 Jan 2014 #34
That simple malaise Jan 2014 #36
Indeed...one has to hold head in hands to keep from the outrage KoKo Jan 2014 #52
10-4 Agony Jan 2014 #65
k&r... spanone Jan 2014 #15
Many thanks for this! onwardsand upwards Jan 2014 #17
Why no pictures of the steam? seveneyes Jan 2014 #18
My guess is that Tepco wont let anyone near. What do you think? nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #92
Nuclear power needs to be abandoned blackspade Jan 2014 #19
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #37
The lies come from Tepco flamingdem Jan 2014 #40
Tepco has lied from the get go. Aerows Jan 2014 #56
Deliberate, systematic lying (R) is diabolical Berlum Jan 2014 #99
What I don't understand is why BP, TEPCO ...STILL HAVE THIS POWER? KoKo Jan 2014 #102
The fukushima disaster has seriously lead me to doubt the safety of nuclear power Aerows Jan 2014 #55
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