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13. Well... That makes it so much less batshit crazy...

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Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:46 AM

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Hitler sought the destruction of Christianity. [View all] Nye Bevan Dec 2013 OP

I guess Hitler knew Jesus wasn't white! Coyotl Dec 2013 #1

Some religious nutjob distancing himself from Hitler... Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #2

He was referencing the New York Times (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #3

Well... That makes it so much less batshit crazy... Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #13

Written one month after Pearl Harbor. arcane1 Dec 2013 #53

Remember the stories about Kuwaiti babies thrown from incubators?..nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #54

Lots of DUers favoring Hitler over the New York Times in this thread. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #56

The NYT article is wartime propaganda... SidDithers Dec 2013 #57

So, any story the NYT published about the Nazis during the war, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #58

Not all of them... SidDithers Dec 2013 #64

I think you need to do more research, not just pull a 1942 article out of the archives. El_Johns Dec 2013 #95

OK. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #99

I have no idea whether Hitler was a "Christian" or not (whatever "Christian" might mean in the El_Johns Dec 2013 #102

Or the "weapons of mass destruction-related program activities"? arcane1 Dec 2013 #74

That blog is serious crazyville... SidDithers Dec 2013 #7

I've added the link to "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William H Shirer (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #8

William H. Shirer is widely criticized among relevant scholars. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #20

You think he's a 'religious nut job' because he distanced himself from Hitler? sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #48

No. I think he's a religious nut job because I took a look at his blog Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #49

Holy fuck, what a batshit loony site... SidDithers Dec 2013 #4

How about the acclaimed journalist and historian William L Shirer? Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #6

You should read what Shirer said more closely Major Nikon Dec 2013 #110

Are you saying that there are no other sources for this information?? You have not sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #50

No, I'm saying that the sOurce that the OP led with... SidDithers Dec 2013 #52

Since I already knew Hiter's views of Christianity it wasn't necessary to go the site. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #109

Maybe you should go to the site... SidDithers Dec 2013 #112

I don't care about the site. I care about the information which I am more than familiar sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #113

Yeah, sure... SidDithers Dec 2013 #115

It's not my job to educate you about this topic. Google is a great source of information, IF sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #119

Oh I forgot... SidDithers Dec 2013 #120

She does not have to because she already knows that information! treestar Dec 2013 #122

Exactly!! And yes, I DID expain it clearly to Sid. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #123

You must spend a lot of time doing homework treestar Dec 2013 #121

Of course I do, doesn't everyone? Well, ALMOST everyone. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #124

Sid was talking about a particular blog treestar Dec 2013 #125

I stated a FACT. I had no need to read a blog I am not familiar with when sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Dec 2013 #111

One of my history books records the attempt of the regime to "nazi-ize" even Christmas steve2470 Dec 2013 #5

That's what I understood - initially an agressive nationalization campaign bhikkhu Dec 2013 #16

Nah, even their belt buckles read "god is with us".... They used God like the RW does here... grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #9

No, that's what they kept asking on the Russian front... jberryhill Dec 2013 #12

Owie... bobclark86 Dec 2013 #14

... LAGC Dec 2013 #39

Thread win!!! Glassunion Dec 2013 #41

I was all like ROFL, and then I started picturing the poor bastards, eeech:0 grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #47

Yeah jberryhill Dec 2013 #89

OMFG I'm ROTFLMAO. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #77

I'm sure we agree on plenty jberryhill Dec 2013 #86

Word! Brother Buzz Dec 2013 #15

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2013 #32

that is one weird site JI7 Dec 2013 #10

He should have just waited jberryhill Dec 2013 #11

And this article was in the NYT about a month after Germany declared war on the US Fumesucker Dec 2013 #17

Heh. A New York Times article is unreliable because of what Judith Miller wrote 60 years later. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #24

The first casualty of war is truth. Fumesucker Dec 2013 #26

Perhaps a 2002 article would be better... JHB Dec 2013 #34

Considering that the Reich Church had been extant for nearly 10 years before the article appeared, El_Johns Dec 2013 #103

Totally propaganda crap. defacto7 Dec 2013 #18

Given the totality of what we know about Hitler, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #22

I agree vdogg Dec 2013 #29

And there was a lot to learn about power and control from the Roman Catholics. arcane1 Dec 2013 #68

I think his ultimate goal would be to bring all power sources exboyfil Dec 2013 #88

So, you tend to give Hitler the benefit of the doubt on this. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #63

... SidDithers Dec 2013 #67

Now there's the twisted sense of reason defacto7 Dec 2013 #114

To suggest that The Third Reich targeted Jews and Christians equally is mindlessly absurd. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #19

That would indeed be absurd. I hope nobody suggested that. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #23

Your own OP suggests it. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #130

It would be mindlessly absurd if anyone had suggested it. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #128

"The way that Hitler could pursue the annihilation of Christianity along with the Jews..." Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #129

SSame as "The Family." blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #21

American neo-Nazis are going to hate this guy. aikoaiko Dec 2013 #25

My thoughts exactly. countryjake Dec 2013 #37

Hitler sought to replace one religion with another in which he was the god. nyquil_man Dec 2013 #27

+1. IMO this has more in common with "prosperity gospel"... JHB Dec 2013 #33

"The Jews and their lies" by Martin Luther The Straight Story Dec 2013 #28

Ri-i-i-ght so Hitler kow-towing to the Pope and kissing the rings of Cardinals intaglio Dec 2013 #30

Yes, he did recruit some Lutheran ministers, along with Bohunk68 Dec 2013 #31

Bonhoeffer was an exception jberryhill Dec 2013 #38

Was not trotting him out Bohunk68 Dec 2013 #43

I don't understand what you mean by "read minds" jberryhill Dec 2013 #44

More about your "some" jberryhill Dec 2013 #42

Someone is trying to rewrite history. B Calm Dec 2013 #35

That's not a reliable source of information. nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #36

Links to Crazy Town really don't make the 'faith community' look better. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #40

Hitler used the climate of Christian antisemitism in Germany. He could not have Quixote1818 Dec 2013 #45

I fully agree. And this is in no way inconsistent with the premise of this OP. (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #82

Kick... SidDithers Dec 2013 #46

Hitler wanted to fill Bundt cake holes with puppy blood! DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #51

I have a NY Times story. What do you have? Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #55

I wouldn't make shit up, no sir. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #59

Some of the very best DUers like to cite the NY Times as a source. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #61

Yes. Some of the best. But this is a diversion from puppy murder. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #65

Here's a 2002 NY Times article with more information. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #70

I am aware that Hitler wasn't a fan of Christianity. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #73

Would you like the NYT stories on Iraq having WMDs? jeff47 Dec 2013 #78

Hmmm. Between the NY Times and Adolf Hitler, who to give the benefit of the doubt? Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #81

Hmmm...Between the NY Times and Saddam Hussein, who to give the benefit of the doubt? jeff47 Dec 2013 #83

What's your point here? Marr Dec 2013 #60

There's been a few recent posts claiming that Hitler was a "devout Catholic" (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #62

Hmm. Odd to see that trotted out, just as the new Pope is proving so unpopular with rich assholes. Marr Dec 2013 #69

So that's why they had military chaplains in the Wehrmacht! rdharma Dec 2013 #66

And I simply cannot think of any reason why this would have been the case, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #72

Is your OP an attempt to ..... rdharma Dec 2013 #75

Reminds me of Henry VIII. Re-writing "religion" in ones own image. Cerridwen Dec 2013 #71

Uh-huh. Please explain why he didn't arrest Christians and send them to concentration camps like Zorra Dec 2013 #76

He did. Polish Catholic Clergy and Jehovah's Witnesses in particular. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #80

Not acceptable evidence, IMO. Most "Christians" don't consider JW's "Christian". Zorra Dec 2013 #90

I think you may be a little bit confused. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #93

Well, I may be confused, but I just didn't see any credible sources for the info. Zorra Dec 2013 #97

Here's another source. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #101

Need link and bibliography, please...thanks. nt Zorra Dec 2013 #104

The unfortunate truth is that ..... rdharma Dec 2013 #79

"Hitler and the Nazi party would never have risen to power without appealing to the religious Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #84

Face it.....Nazi Germany was a majority Christian nation. rdharma Dec 2013 #87

I fully agree with that (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #91

Excuse me, but this "Nazis weren't Christian".... rdharma Dec 2013 #96

He painted roses, too. Gore1FL Dec 2013 #85

Is this suppose to be some type of analogy or comparison with the Obama Administration? YOHABLO Dec 2013 #92

No. You're thinking of the "warning signs of fascism" threads (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #94

Odd answer to the question. nt rdharma Dec 2013 #98

Extremely odd questions typically get odd answers (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #100

What a festering pile of OP BS RetroLounge Dec 2013 #105

Thanks. Some interesting food for thought there. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #106

Nazis were Christians. You should learn to deal with that. RetroLounge Dec 2013 #107

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So you proved you can cut and paste over and over RetroLounge Dec 2013 #116

Perhaps instead of citing and quoting from several sources I should adopt your approach Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #117

No, just keep linking to "Prophecy Proof" RetroLounge Dec 2013 #131

I can't even take this OP seriously when you link to the loony blog "Prophecy Proof". Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #118

Agree 100% rurallib Dec 2013 #127

Ayn Rand was an athiest arely staircase Dec 2013 #132