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In reply to the discussion: Is Pope Francis Really a Progressive Example? [View all]MineralMan
(146,253 posts)42. I picked four categories that affect individuals on an
immediate basis, and that are widely discussed here on DU. For three of those important issues having to do with social justice, the Pope and his church are far to the right. For one, the economic issue, the Pope is heading in a good direction and is calling for change. All four issues are major ones that affect individuals who are seeking equality and justice.
How do you feel about the Pope's position on those? My thread. My choice of issues to address.
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Sorry, it's a meaningless question. He is head of a religious organization not a head of state.
KittyWampus
Dec 2013
#8
Exactly. He excommunicated a priest who advocated for gay marriage and female clergy.
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#3
Yes, what?? You think the attendee feeding his dog the sacrament is what got the priest
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#52
Don't you see the HYPOCRISY of the pontiff via the censure of “radical feminist” nuns?
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#64
We were actually discussing the censured nuns in our continuing "don't forget" saga.
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#71
Oh please... corrected? You think it was about the fucking DOG? You are wrong.
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#78
" . . . and his public celebration of the Eucharist when he did not hold faculties to act publicly"
rug
Dec 2013
#79
" . . . and his public celebration of the Eucharist when he did not hold faculties to act publicly"
rug
Dec 2013
#89
I'm not either as well. I think he should be held up as someone who is taking a very backward
EOTE
Dec 2013
#18
Your church's website about marriage says 'one man, one woman, God' plan'
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#45
Here is Francis on marriage equality and gay families. Tell me why you see this as
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#24
And yet when asked to point out these changes you claim to see, you snap at me.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#40
I believe it was you that took exception that I thought he was a positive change.
mmonk
Dec 2013
#69
He talks, the world listens, this is what they hear him say about equal rights for gays:
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#27
It would be if the 'fiscal progressivism' was anything more than rhetoric
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#36
I missed where they said they don't care about gays, women, and children.
madinmaryland
Dec 2013
#140
If Phil from Duck Dynasty gave away a million to feed the poor, would his hate speech
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#31
Francis said this about marriage equality. It is hate speech, like Phil the Duck guy.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#41
So if I change my name to Goddy McGodster today all I said yesterday is now
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#62
I wish folks would just admit they don't mind the sexism and homophobia and that
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#72
He didn't claim that. I just pointed out an aspect of Church dogma that predates him
Tom Rinaldo
Dec 2013
#75
Have you even read the whole diatribe from his jet which folks distill to 'who am I
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#81
By no standard (other than a highly restrictive internal to high Church leadership one)...
Tom Rinaldo
Dec 2013
#119
But to “not talk about these issues all the time,” for the pope, means silence from the single
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#43
Exiled Popes? Dude, I quote Francis from 2010 and you say 'that was then' but
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#77
Here's the thing Tom, you guys need to back off pushing Francis as a voice in our
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#118
"he's come out against everything Scalia has ever stood for"? That's not true.
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#95
I find the organization irredeemable. It's been that way for over a thousand years
Warpy
Dec 2013
#59
Francis himself has built his career on attacking gay people and to claim otherwise
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2013
#57
What would Free Republic be saying about Pope Francis if he were running for the Presidency?
rug
Dec 2013
#46
I see DUers praising his comments against republican/third way trickle-down economics, nothing more.
Kermitt Gribble
Dec 2013
#130
I think you OP is indeed nuanced and a useful starting point for meaningful discussion
Tom Rinaldo
Dec 2013
#101
Well, I do commend Dick Cheney and Rob Portman for supporting same-sex marriage. I no way would I
madinmaryland
Dec 2013
#141
“This to me is one of the big problems with Republicans, is that they only seem to have empathy
PeaceNikki
Dec 2013
#142
What is really ironic, is that 53 years ago we elected the first (and only) Catholic to the
madinmaryland
Dec 2013
#143
An organization that is 2000 years old and has 1 billion members will change VERY slowly
scheming daemons
Dec 2013
#137