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I think anyone who reads this gaspee Dec 2013 #1
Indeed... i agree completely with gaspee's comment. +1 hlthe2b Dec 2013 #6
I was struck, LWolf Dec 2013 #55
More like they don't want to get it. Warpy Dec 2013 #105
Exactly! k&r Little Star Dec 2013 #2
Very well said. Thank you. nt LumosMaxima Dec 2013 #3
Trashing thread... Iggo Dec 2013 #4
too bad, you are missing a good OP. nt boston bean Dec 2013 #5
I didn't miss it. Iggo Dec 2013 #12
I can understand. Thanks for letting me know. boston bean Dec 2013 #13
I suppose I didn't need to announce it, though. Iggo Dec 2013 #47
SO TRUE XemaSab Dec 2013 #7
Very well said. Thanks for your perspective. PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #8
I have stayed out of the discussions on this subject up until now. narnian60 Dec 2013 #9
Well, that's a new one to me quinnox Dec 2013 #10
I've heard it, and worse than that. nt rrneck Dec 2013 #15
Me too! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #20
heard it the other way as well, also guys referred to as the wallet etc loli phabay Dec 2013 #25
MRA bingo--take any discussion about women's experiences and concerns and try geek tragedy Dec 2013 #26
wow, kinda like a godwin there. or do you deny that people refer to each other and themselves loli phabay Dec 2013 #29
I know that your post was inevitable. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #33
sorry not even listening to you, no point, was talking to the op loli phabay Dec 2013 #35
Why are listening and learning only things that men are supposed to do? n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #48
Certainly, when men begin a discussion of their experiences and the issues geek tragedy Dec 2013 #51
They're more likely to campaign to eliminate the forum in which that discussion is taking place. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #53
Good thing sexist jackholes never explicitly target the women in HoF for hate and abuse. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #61
Democracy. Ain't it grand? nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #63
Give my regards to The Lord of the Flies. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #67
That was actually funny, for a change. xulamaude Dec 2013 #68
Rather than discussing their experiences, they want to shut down women discussing theirs? uppityperson Dec 2013 #70
No, I'm saying that a major topic of discussion in HoF is how to shut down TMG. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #79
cool, why don't you do a PSA to fight against it? bettyellen Dec 2013 #49
no need to, it does not bother me but feel free if you feel you need to be fair. loli phabay Dec 2013 #84
oh, just pretending it mattered for LOLz, got it! bettyellen Dec 2013 #93
no, just stating that people use all sorts of language to describe each other. but no problem loli phabay Dec 2013 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author bettyellen Dec 2013 #52
both sides do it Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #95
especially when it doesn't matter to you- cry about it!!! yeah, that's honest. bettyellen Dec 2013 #100
yup, an example is my wife and i refer to each other in less than respectful terms at times loli phabay Dec 2013 #125
but out in society we do distinguish between creep and c*nt, asshole and ni**er, right…. bettyellen Dec 2013 #127
no its on topic, as in relation to the op. people of all genders say similar stuff about each other loli phabay Dec 2013 #129
I applaud you for the post. boston bean Dec 2013 #11
I've had to grow a thick skin LWolf Dec 2013 #57
There is a school of thought rrneck Dec 2013 #14
this is beyond offensive in the context of the OP. boston bean Dec 2013 #17
Actually, no. rrneck Dec 2013 #18
She can read just fine, as can I, and yes you did agree with the OP's geek tragedy Dec 2013 #27
Yep, I made a mistake. rrneck Dec 2013 #78
I'm familiar with the pseudoscience known as evo psych. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #81
So why do you think rrneck Dec 2013 #83
because humans make them watch porn of course. loli phabay Dec 2013 #86
LOL! Yep, that must be it. nt rrneck Dec 2013 #87
because they would go extinct if they didn't. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #88
Are you able to converse rrneck Dec 2013 #89
What I would like to know is what does this have to do with boston bean Dec 2013 #91
So you don't have an alternate theory. rrneck Dec 2013 #94
My theory is that some people would like to blame their DNA for boston bean Dec 2013 #97
So you still got nothing. rrneck Dec 2013 #101
Please affirm for yourself that you are promoting a theory that DNA is responsible for what this man boston bean Dec 2013 #106
So, speaking as a woman rrneck Dec 2013 #112
I dunno. How many billion people from all geek tragedy Dec 2013 #117
Not only do you not know rrneck Dec 2013 #118
You got me. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #119
You poor thing. rrneck Dec 2013 #122
Yeah, your towering intellect intimidated geek tragedy Dec 2013 #126
It sounds like we are members rrneck Dec 2013 #128
LOL. boston bean Dec 2013 #132
Happy holidays to you too BB. rrneck Dec 2013 #133
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Hey if you want to say it's in mens DNA to treat women like shit, well, that is on you. boston bean Dec 2013 #85
Hey, that's not what I'm saying in the least. rrneck Dec 2013 #90
I really can't because I don't believe DNA boston bean Dec 2013 #92
Well, I could repost it rrneck Dec 2013 #98
DNA DNA DNA ok, you believe DNA is responsible for all societal ills. boston bean Dec 2013 #108
Thank you for telling me what I believe rrneck Dec 2013 #113
I'm going on what you post. Not sure what else I'm to do. boston bean Dec 2013 #120
Actually, you're ignoring everything I write. rrneck Dec 2013 #124
I'm going to jump in here and ask xulamaude Dec 2013 #130
Absolutely. rrneck Dec 2013 #131
Well done. But xulamaude Dec 2013 #134
It's what species do. rrneck Dec 2013 #136
I do know (but don't care much for) what "some MRA dude xulamaude Dec 2013 #138
When it comes to critter skills rrneck Dec 2013 #139
Why is the listener's "background, culture and experience"... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #16
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I'd say more analagous to "harpy" and "shrew". n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #42
Because people use those words all the time, right? Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #45
They're not used here, that's for certain. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #46
I'm very far from "incoherent", nor am I "spluttering". Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #56
+1 xulamaude Dec 2013 #64
Am I required to accept the worst possible premise among potential readers? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #65
Except when the discussion is about subjects like this, then the history of the relevant parties... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #71
He will tell you that sexisdoesn't exist for woman and of course he doesn't argue that about racism. boston bean Dec 2013 #75
Thank you. I did a good job picking a spokesperson. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #80
What you're describing is not a rational discussion, you're describing an anecdotal pissing match. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #77
No, I'm describing a rational discussion. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #82
You misunderstood. Worked pretty hard at it too. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #96
Except for you it does seem to be the issue. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #99
Unlike women not being able to own property, were property of their husbands boston bean Dec 2013 #102
"Were", "Was" lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #110
"Incivility comes from insisting on something else." boston bean Dec 2013 #137
So "personhood" laws and related misogynist bullshit were "repealed 50-200 years" ago? nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #140
Oh Jesus, if you're going to claim the title of The Reasonable Man geek tragedy Dec 2013 #32
Maybe. I did a google search for "she is a creep" and found quite a few hits. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #50
men get called assholes more often than women too, doesn't make "asshole" a gendered geek tragedy Dec 2013 #54
Another nice example of the conflation xulamaude Dec 2013 #37
Because it's part of reality. LWolf Dec 2013 #60
I apologize for the inappropriate use of "you". lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #69
The one I heard was whatchamacallit Dec 2013 #19
my mom is approaching 80 (which dad just turned) hfojvt Dec 2013 #22
I disagree with your first part. LWolf Dec 2013 #72
In my household it was kinda the opposite hfojvt Dec 2013 #109
Change happens gradually. LWolf Dec 2013 #142
a spelling quirk hfojvt Dec 2013 #146
Oh, yum. LWolf Dec 2013 #147
K&R. nt DLevine Dec 2013 #23
K&R G_j Dec 2013 #24
I think we should all recognize G_j Dec 2013 #28
Thank you. LWolf Dec 2013 #74
Thank you! City Lights Dec 2013 #30
K&R grntuscarora Dec 2013 #31
Nothing more need be said on the topic mcar Dec 2013 #34
K & R xulamaude Dec 2013 #36
I've also seen that phrase on Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #38
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #39
Men and women look at each other with desire. How shocking. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #40
Of course they do, but what is being discussed is boston bean Dec 2013 #73
Boom! Squinch Dec 2013 #41
Outstanding. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2013 #43
Lots of people end up in bad relationships davidn3600 Dec 2013 #44
+1 well said. janlyn Dec 2013 #103
The problem can be, on either side, that you get tired of looking for the good people mythology Dec 2013 #116
the Bible says women come from Adam's rib, that's not as disgusting and ugly... Kurovski Dec 2013 #58
Your words really hit home. bitchkitty Dec 2013 #59
I have this to say.... mike_c Dec 2013 #62
I wonder if the people commenting gaspee Dec 2013 #66
Yep. You said that correct. Little Star Dec 2013 #104
Oh yeah they do. "There are poor white people geek tragedy Dec 2013 #121
Of course. Silent3 Dec 2013 #76
Ha ha, now that is indisputable! quinnox Dec 2013 #107
Excellent: Zenlitened Dec 2013 #111
Sadly, I have to agree with you that some truly just don't get it. Squinch Dec 2013 #141
I appreciate your post Beringia Dec 2013 #114
Each marriage was different. LWolf Dec 2013 #143
Thanks for the reply Beringia Dec 2013 #144
Oh, yes, I've been dressing down for a long time, Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #115
God I miss the old DU where we had actual discussions. OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2013 #145
Laughed at it long ago when first heard as a joke. maced666 Dec 2013 #148
I've heard the converse statement too... jimlup Dec 2013 #149
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