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In reply to the discussion: My sexual orientation is being used as a political fucking football. 43 years of this crap. [View all]Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)23. "getting an assist in his human rights Potemkin Village charade by Glenn Greenwald." What
are you talking about?
Here is Greenwald facetiously expressing disdain for Putin:
@ggreenwald: The NSA has had a really bad week, but finally found a powerful, influential voice to speak in defense of its mission http://t.co/UKWR08icGi
Here he is explaining his position on Snowden's asylum:
Greenwald concedes he gets a little mean when asked about his or Snowdens feelings on Russia. Im well aware of the flaws in Russian society, just like Im well aware of all the flaws in American society, Greenwald says. Thousands of people apply for and are given asylum in the U.S. every year, and nobody says, Isnt it so weird and ironic that people are applying for asylum in a country that has an ocean prison where people are put in cages without trial for 10 years, uses drones, or torture? he says, half annoyed. The point of asylum is not to declare to the world what country you think is the pinnacle of civilization. The point of asylum is to find a country thats both willing and able to protect you from political persecution. Greenwald adds, In no way is asylum an endorsement of a countrys politics, laws, or values. He didnt choose to be there. He was trying to get transit to Latin America, and then the U.S. revoked his passport and threatened other countries out of offering Snowden safe passage.
At the end of Greenwalds trip to meet Snowden in Hong Kong, he was convinced that Snowden would be snatched up by the U.S. and held in custody without trial for years, much like whistleblower Chelsea Manning, whom Greenwald considers a hero. Mannings three-year pre-trial incarceration and 35-year sentence proves, Greenwald says, that Snowden was right to find harbor anywhere he could. The question shouldnt be why is Snowden in Russia? The question should be why is America no longer safe for whistleblowers?
At the end of Greenwalds trip to meet Snowden in Hong Kong, he was convinced that Snowden would be snatched up by the U.S. and held in custody without trial for years, much like whistleblower Chelsea Manning, whom Greenwald considers a hero. Mannings three-year pre-trial incarceration and 35-year sentence proves, Greenwald says, that Snowden was right to find harbor anywhere he could. The question shouldnt be why is Snowden in Russia? The question should be why is America no longer safe for whistleblowers?
You were making perfectly reasonable sense up until that sentence. And it wasn't even necessary for the point you were trying to make. It's not that that Greenwald is above criticism, it's that the criticism always seems to be ad Hominem-based and usually false.
I mean, if I'm missing something, let me know.
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My sexual orientation is being used as a political fucking football. 43 years of this crap. [View all]
sibelian
Dec 2013
OP
Your post is so well written and makes so much sense and I am sorry some words and deeds live on...
Tikki
Dec 2013
#3
So are Blacks even with a Black president. So are Hispanics, Muslims and so many others.
vaberella
Dec 2013
#107
yup parts of the glasgow area are mental, hence the city motto. no mean city, kinda ironic
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#27
omg, you millionaire you. lol. bet you even have someone to pre chew your highland toffee lol
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#64
Dude, I can't say where I live in Edinburgh online, but let' just say you'd probably think
sibelian
Dec 2013
#66
lol, well bearsden and morning side probuably means you prefer the weird shaped balls
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#86
Putin's reason for bringing out homophobia is for an easily identifiable reason.
grantcart
Dec 2013
#14
"getting an assist in his human rights Potemkin Village charade by Glenn Greenwald." What
Hissyspit
Dec 2013
#23
The ones that piss the fuck off out of me are the people who treat as a kind of REBELLION.
sibelian
Dec 2013
#65
"I've sort of resigned myself to the idea that this is probably how it will always be."
DemocraticWing
Dec 2013
#21
Some of the Christian attitudes towards womanhood are just inexplicably fucked up.
sibelian
Dec 2013
#75
Apparently the Russians have always had a bigoted streak in this regard, and Pootie is exploiting it
MADem
Dec 2013
#61
Hugs. I wish everyone would just mind their own fucking business, instead of obsessing
idwiyo
Dec 2013
#70
good point, words evolve over time, for some certain words may be hurtful but for others its
loli phabay
Dec 2013
#77
Well, I livein the UK where things are possibly a far bit better than the US.
sibelian
Dec 2013
#105
My heart bleeds for what you went through. But Gays are not the only target.
vaberella
Dec 2013
#108
Targets of bigotry often assume that they are somehow immune from being bigots.
sibelian
Dec 2013
#109