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Flatulo

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218. Excellent comments. I'm pretty familiar with Japanese culture, having done business
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 03:37 AM
Dec 2013

Last edited Mon Dec 16, 2013, 06:04 AM - Edit history (1)

there for about a decade in the nineties. During that time, the manager of the factory that produced our product shocked us regularly with his traditional Japanese male dominance behavior.

On one of the trips over there, a quality control engineer named Kim (female) came with us. Kim caught the eye of this factory manager, who already had one mistress. He invited her to join him after hours in his suite for a hot tub. Poor Kim, thinking that it was going to be a group gathering, accepted.

Once the others in our team found out about this, we had to quickly spirit her out of the country on the pretense of a family emergency lest we offend this guy and adversely affect the relationship between our companies.

The factory manager persisted for a few months in trying to get his grubby hands on Kim, going as far as making requests directly to our CEO for her to come back.

K & R Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #1
... Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #2
Are you aware of the facts of this situation? gollygee Dec 2013 #3
So by your defintion Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #6
I think that those men who wish to retreat from society should just go ahead and do so. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #18
Hear, hear. Habibi Dec 2013 #29
Your situation is different from the boy's. pnwmom Dec 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #40
How about you read a little bit about what was really going on? idwiyo Dec 2013 #41
Then the next time a 14 year old is charged with murder and tried as an adult, please don't ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #67
the kid does not have a jacket, no charges made, mom should not get ass kicked... seabeyond Dec 2013 #69
Thanks. I had read that the kid did have a jacket, and I'm glad to hear that he does not. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #72
i hear ya. i am really that angry about it, too. we talk about child abuse and we see it in violent seabeyond Dec 2013 #74
Who the hell said that boy should be CHARGED with anything? Where did you get it from? idwiyo Dec 2013 #77
He has no such thing. Please stop the melodrama MattBaggins Dec 2013 #108
More than 3 hours after I acknowledged that he did not, and ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #171
How do you know that he followed CC Dec 2013 #155
Because his mother has gone on record as telling the child that "boys will be boys", even after ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #172
Whoa. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #173
It doesn't mean he isn't following the CC Dec 2013 #191
Sexual? really? cvoogt Dec 2013 #179
Forcefull kissing & restricting a girl from playing with others is a sexual harassment. idwiyo Dec 2013 #183
his understanding DOES change what it is. cvoogt Dec 2013 #188
Harassment & bullying at least to me is very different from what is going on in this case. idwiyo Dec 2013 #204
I agree 99% cvoogt Dec 2013 #216
no one gave him sexual harassment when explaining for him to stop. he had age appropriate seabeyond Dec 2013 #219
Yup cvoogt Dec 2013 #220
Could you be conflating your First grade experience with this boy's? karynnj Dec 2013 #57
there were two boys. the teacher talked to the two boys and parents. one stopped. the other didnt seabeyond Dec 2013 #58
Thanks - I edited out things said that were unjustified karynnj Dec 2013 #60
If you think the school is teaching the boy all the wrong lessons KitSileya Dec 2013 #62
Amen. If this boy has been taught a lesson historylovr Dec 2013 #78
This happened to me when I was 10 or 11. alarimer Dec 2013 #68
+1 I did exactly that. Kick in the groin and huge black eye, after that little shit grabbed me idwiyo Dec 2013 #79
Teaching children personal space boundries MattBaggins Dec 2013 #107
every kid/person is not the same, in this case the girl DID NOT WANT IT JI7 Dec 2013 #122
Thank you. And let's call it stalking and harassment. elehhhhna Dec 2013 #21
They should have called it what it is: BULLYING Warpy Dec 2013 #167
Some kids just try out behaviors gollygee Dec 2013 #168
So you've read absolutely nothing about this story. OK. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #4
Younger males more precisely Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #7
Nope. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #17
This is my opinion on what I have experienced and observed around me Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #63
It is called Title 9 Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #70
Applying title 9 Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #184
You mean the opinion that is the law of the land? Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #192
We are talking about children do you have any empathy? Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #195
he was not penalized as in adult word. it was addressed age appropriate. i guess we are done here. seabeyond Dec 2013 #197
You are obviously enjoying making things up about this news item that aren't true. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #200
Title 9 is specifically about schools gollygee Dec 2013 #193
really ? i see younger guys all the time outside with girlfriends JI7 Dec 2013 #124
i have two teenage boys that seem to be able to handle all this stuff very well. and every single seabeyond Dec 2013 #127
When a little boy repeatedly ignores requests and instructions from adults intaglio Dec 2013 #5
Then punish accordingly Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #9
At what age would you start labeling it differently? Bibliovore Dec 2013 #12
And he was, repeatedly intaglio Dec 2013 #16
No it wasn't MattBaggins Dec 2013 #110
If empathy for the girl must include an eradication of the concept of the boy's innocence of sexual sibelian Dec 2013 #8
Yes we are teaching young children all the wrong lessons Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #10
Why? intaglio Dec 2013 #19
"sexually knowledgeable at worst" - that is nothing more than a foul projection, he is SIX. sibelian Dec 2013 #76
So the fact that child victims of sexual assault often play out what happens to them with others KitSileya Dec 2013 #81
"This is because abused children know things that ordinary children do not" needed point made to seabeyond Dec 2013 #83
I agree with every word of this. polly7 Dec 2013 #84
Melodrama MattBaggins Dec 2013 #111
wow, put your hair out already and wake up. some six year olds- unfortunately- know more bettyellen Dec 2013 #121
Utterly foul? intaglio Dec 2013 #135
Apparently the girl could suffer because the boy has been 'accused' xulamaude Dec 2013 #136
No child is damaged by what people say on DU BainsBane Dec 2013 #44
I read this earlier and after thinking about it xulamaude Dec 2013 #93
Where so many people are going wrong on this case Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #11
It seems to me that the mother of the boy has been using the "sexual" component. That's CTyankee Dec 2013 #15
I have seen authorities go crazy over supposed sexual behavior between little kids Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #22
What I am saying is that the mother placed it there to begin with. CTyankee Dec 2013 #26
I have no particular disagreement with anything you say. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #55
I wish mercuryblues Dec 2013 #85
Since this boy was not placed on any sex offender registry Mariana Dec 2013 #56
Wanna bet school records go nowhere else? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #59
Yes something like this would surface in the xulamaude Dec 2013 #75
Information fo this sort is indeed admissible in many jurisdictions. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #139
Yes, for forming their opinions xulamaude Dec 2013 #140
Yes, the expert could & probably would refer to the file in testimony. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #142
They have a right to but xulamaude Dec 2013 #145
You seem to know all about it. Why don't you inform us? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #149
There's no need for me to explain it xulamaude Dec 2013 #151
OK--I got a little intemperate there. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #157
i guess what i am curious about, and only for reasonableness focus, not to argue.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #161
Where something like this might have weight is in the context of risk assessment. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #164
Thanks - xulamaude Dec 2013 #163
I'm really talking about recidivism risk assessment, which can play a role Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #165
I think it's important for investigators xulamaude Dec 2013 #170
personally i would have written the shit out instead of looking for a "word" to encompass it all. seabeyond Dec 2013 #174
I absoultely agree but xulamaude Dec 2013 #175
this is school and school record and documentation. not law. we dont know. maybe they put seabeyond Dec 2013 #176
It should not be lumped in with rough housing/misconduct xulamaude Dec 2013 #178
yes. people have issue with siimple language and actual definitions. so many wrap up the emotion seabeyond Dec 2013 #181
Examples please? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #114
I just happened to be cleaning out some old criminal files this afternoon. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #138
Yes - "criminal files" nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #141
The school records had been used in assessing the individuals' level of "dangerousness" Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #144
And they probably should. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #146
I'm just reporting the reality, not necessarily editorializing about it. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #150
Okay. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #152
I find this interesting. KitSileya Dec 2013 #153
Yes, yes, and yes. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #160
Spoken like one who lacks the first fucking clue about how easily obtainable certain supposedly ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #82
hear hear cvoogt Dec 2013 #180
sad and stupid guappo1 Dec 2013 #13
Maybe the kid needs to be protected from the craziness of his mother. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #23
What? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #115
K&R tabasco Dec 2013 #14
When a little boy was REPEATEDLY told to stop but kept harassing little girl, she must be protected. idwiyo Dec 2013 #20
Let it go. pintobean Dec 2013 #24
I am glad rationality prevailed however Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #61
By the usual suspects pintobean Dec 2013 #64
since i am sure i am a "suspect" please share where any of my post is unreasonable or irrational or seabeyond Dec 2013 #71
Jeeze sea, mellow out. pintobean Dec 2013 #88
ok. yesterday i had a number of men say i am a man hater. offensive? i am thinking. i was also seabeyond Dec 2013 #90
But, I'm not a usual suspect pintobean Dec 2013 #92
but.... i did not assume. and to assume i would not take into acct (hence my respectful and seabeyond Dec 2013 #94
I take it back. pintobean Dec 2013 #101
That's nice, dear. Squinch Dec 2013 #25
Please proceed. nt LisaLynne Dec 2013 #27
Who's opting out of society? How? Orrex Dec 2013 #28
It means they're staying home and jacking off to porn. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #31
... idwiyo Dec 2013 #32
and they think the threat of this, will somehow make women more compliant and forgiving, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2013 #123
it was plain harassment and bullying magical thyme Dec 2013 #30
and then you have the enablers that are going to make sure this little boy does not learn what he seabeyond Dec 2013 #33
When I was in 4th grade, I had a teacher that accused me of it for passing a note. politichew Dec 2013 #35
Can someone enlighten me on whats gong on? iandhr Dec 2013 #36
Men are not opting out of society or from associating with women BainsBane Dec 2013 #37
What? BlueState Dec 2013 #38
They lowered it to misconduct, as someone has already mentioned Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #39
Zero Tolerance is for idiots. Iggo Dec 2013 #42
There's a big difference between school discipline and police charges radhika Dec 2013 #43
where did they involve the police or legal system? didnt happen. wow. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #46
The police was *never* involved. KitSileya Dec 2013 #48
oh, and the word "sexual harassment" wasnt involved either, until the mom gave it to the boy. look seabeyond Dec 2013 #50
Parents must communicate regardless of personal feelings Burf-_- Dec 2013 #51
no adult gave sexual harassment to the child to figure out, but the mom. the school did not give seabeyond Dec 2013 #52
Utterly wrong MattBaggins Dec 2013 #117
no... Burf-_- Dec 2013 #166
No you are wrong MattBaggins Dec 2013 #169
-_- (facepalm) Burf-_- Dec 2013 #201
You might want to actually read something about this. Because what you describe bears no resemblance Squinch Dec 2013 #54
But it's so much more fun to make shit up to be outraged about. Mariana Dec 2013 #105
Seriously. People are just pulling stuff out of their asses around here now. Squinch Dec 2013 #116
Little guy libodem Dec 2013 #45
So because one child's parent has not enforced personal space boundries MattBaggins Dec 2013 #118
The boys behavior is unacceptable and must be stopped. The only people with "risks" are future... Taitertots Dec 2013 #47
I don't believe I or my friends ever hassled girls when I was in school. It would have been a... BlueJazz Dec 2013 #49
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #53
No tears for the little girl who was bullied and whose myrna minx Dec 2013 #65
Men's Rights types don't care one shit about what happens to women. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #100
This is wrong-headed. alarimer Dec 2013 #66
and by his own mother, no less. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #73
You seem to not know that the boy in the original story was forcefully kissing the girl. Dash87 Dec 2013 #80
The DU jury system is a mess. Two locked messages in this thread. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #86
no. it is not a thread of snark. most all are actually discussing the issue. hence, my post to seabeyond Dec 2013 #87
Okay. I could pull various examples from the thread, but... Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #89
as far as i see, it is a child development/parental issue. not gender wars. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #91
MRA talking points AND spectacular levels of stupidity. BRA-VO. *slow clap* LeftyMom Dec 2013 #95
Thread win. JTFrog Dec 2013 #112
The administrators are shockingly permissive when it comes to the MRA types on DU. demmiblue Dec 2013 #126
+1 Squinch Dec 2013 #131
Males "going their own way", from the OP xulamaude Dec 2013 #133
interesting. that is another perspective with this, i had not seen. thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #134
How dare you imply MRAs are here just because DUers quote the sites, redqueen Dec 2013 #143
Libel! xulamaude Dec 2013 #148
He knows all the laws! redqueen Dec 2013 #154
repeatedly kissing someone who doesn't want it is neither affection nor empathy fishwax Dec 2013 #96
Affection has to be returned before physical affection can be given LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #97
should girls and women opt out also due to the high risk of rape, physical abuse, murder by mate? seabeyond Dec 2013 #98
yes the fact that he couldn't get away with serial non-sexual harassment means geek tragedy Dec 2013 #99
I don't think the little boy should be shamed or punished, ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #102
He would not have been if not for his mother MattBaggins Dec 2013 #119
While I do think the boy should be disciplined for what he did bluestateguy Dec 2013 #103
Can I just state that I am surprised at how many haven't read the articles KitSileya Dec 2013 #104
Thank you! xulamaude Dec 2013 #109
Not too much of a surprise, since there were absolutely no links to the story from the OP. phylny Dec 2013 #206
Mr melodrama climbing Mount Victimhood just to throw himself off of it MattBaggins Dec 2013 #106
Thank you. K&R quinnox Dec 2013 #113
and yet guys who don't share your view have no problems with getting into relationships with women JI7 Dec 2013 #120
I wonder if those two things are related....hmmmm..... Squinch Dec 2013 #132
affection? EMPATHY? you didn't actually read about what actually happened, I hope. bettyellen Dec 2013 #125
and then we hear our boys do not need to be educated about the rape culture cause they totally seabeyond Dec 2013 #129
+1 redqueen Dec 2013 #147
Good point about "opting out of participating" seattledo Dec 2013 #128
it s not hell or scary to meet people of the opposite sex, LOL. there are some who are bettyellen Dec 2013 #130
I am personally a grass-eater Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #185
garbage.... for so many reasons. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #187
"Grass-eater" xulamaude Dec 2013 #189
It used to be called celibacy Major Nikon Dec 2013 #202
so, he is not having sex. he is a man. and he is telling women our sexuality and we have NO seabeyond Dec 2013 #203
From what I've just read about it, it's more like simple indifference towards women. Flatulo Dec 2013 #215
Evidence of how traditional gender roles hurt all genders. KitSileya Dec 2013 #217
Excellent comments. I'm pretty familiar with Japanese culture, having done business Flatulo Dec 2013 #218
sigh seattledo Dec 2013 #190
of course you dont as most dont now that we got away from a society that demands we do. sex is sex. seabeyond Dec 2013 #198
You are wrong about so much here. gollygee Dec 2013 #194
Wow I haven't read anything this comical in ages. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #196
i cannot tell you how many men on du has demanded that i be emotional with sex and see as sacred. seabeyond Dec 2013 #199
Pity party, table for one. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #213
And when it's defended tooth and nail ... 1000words Dec 2013 #137
The dude wasn't just being affectionate. He was stalking her, cornering her, and kissing her. Ian David Dec 2013 #156
i had forgotten all about Pepé Le Pew. back in the day when it really was presented as a norm, seabeyond Dec 2013 #158
Brings more meaning to girls having cooties and are icky Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #159
i would think what the girl experienced, that comment would apply more the reverse. that the seabeyond Dec 2013 #162
Strawman Strawman Strawman Strawman Strawman. alp227 Dec 2013 #177
k/r 840high Dec 2013 #182
Too many generalizations in the OP CFLDem Dec 2013 #186
If you can't interact with half of humanity, the problem isn't half of humanity. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #205
... Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #207
The level of hatred leveled at this little guy.. truebrit71 Dec 2013 #208
You were staggered? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #209
Yes I was. truebrit71 Dec 2013 #210
one post that shows hatred toward the kid? would you like me to show a number of posts dismissing seabeyond Dec 2013 #211
It's incredible how distorted one's view can be. redqueen Dec 2013 #212
ya. you man hater, you.... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #214
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