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146. are you seriously suggesting that Kucinich really defeated Kaptur?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 03:48 AM
Mar 2012

Because that's truly ridiculous

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #1
Nothing to see here folks,just move along. former9thward Mar 2012 #2
Welcome to DU! sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #3
Wow think Mar 2012 #4
Those numbers don't look the least bit fishy to you? SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #7
No. Tell me: did you think it was "fishy" when Obama won 92% of the DC vote in 2008, NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #12
Whether the numbers are accurate or not they can't be verified. think Mar 2012 #16
I asked you this question below but you might have missed it. Were they running against other sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #17
Looks like it was the presidential election not primary: think Mar 2012 #18
That's exactly what I said. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #19
Well, that's very different. These were two Democrats and I know for me, eg, it was a difficult sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #22
Republicans vote in a general election. jeff47 Mar 2012 #27
Well his district obviously disagrees with you. He has been reelected repeatedly as she has sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #29
Sorry, I decided to change my point and edited while you were responding. jeff47 Mar 2012 #30
Okay, no problem. I know Marcy Kaptur is very popular in her district. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #32
It Was The Voters Of Ohio That Were Responsible... KharmaTrain Mar 2012 #109
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but DC is always jsmirman Mar 2012 #62
Those numbers were vs Republicans. Which would seemingly make such a margin NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #20
Thanks, actually I think that it is more strange in a district that is so Democratic to have numbers sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #25
I agree with you about the verification. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #28
I agree and I am sure even if there were errors it would not change the results. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #31
In the 2004 Democratic Presidential Primary DK only got 2.7 percent of Lucas County onenote Mar 2012 #113
see my experience in post #45 hfojvt Mar 2012 #49
90% of Democrats do not agree anywhere on anything. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #87
Obviously they can, because they just did. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #92
Why would they even bother trying to fix a vote in DC? DCKit Mar 2012 #41
That's exactly my point: Obama, Kerry, and Gore all won over 90% with no "fixing" of the vote. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #53
Thank you - having lived in DC for the last four years jsmirman Mar 2012 #60
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #46
Democrats at 90% in D.C. Yes, that is very believable. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #86
Just like this is quite believable. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #90
You might be right, BUT tkmorris Mar 2012 #8
What a powerful, convincing argument... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #9
What was the total votes cast in the district? Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #5
Yes, I am from Toledo ellie Mar 2012 #6
But has she ever, or has anyone ever other than Saddam Hussein, won by this kind of margin before? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #13
Dennis has done even worse in Lucas County in the past onenote Mar 2012 #116
Of course. KamaAina Mar 2012 #130
Don't forget Dennis with 2.7 percent in Lucas County onenote Mar 2012 #131
You are wrong. Mumble Mar 2012 #23
It's a semi-closed primary frazzled Mar 2012 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author think Mar 2012 #10
Ya know, Brad, early on in the e-voting debate, I told everyone that, sooner or later, results... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #11
And, sadly... BradBlog Mar 2012 #35
The insiders who worked the issue hard got disabused of the Dem vs Rep nature of the problem.... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #38
Democratic candidates have consistently won 85-90% of the vote in DC in presidential elections. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #14
Are those primary numbers? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #15
See my reply (#20) NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #21
This is DC. It makes Manhattan and Brooklyn look like Right Wing enclaves jsmirman Mar 2012 #66
East Cleveland dsc Mar 2012 #93
Republican registration is only 7% in D.C. former9thward Mar 2012 #96
I would wonder if those numbers were tallied via an unverifiable e-vote machine... LanternWaste Mar 2012 #118
Was there an exit poll? Vattel Mar 2012 #24
Without any other evidence, all this is is "big number!!!" jeff47 Mar 2012 #26
Since there is no way to verify the vote, there is no reason EFerrari Mar 2012 #33
BULLFUCKING SHIT, if you read the link it's the machines have a voter-verified paper audit trail. joshcryer Mar 2012 #34
"Dip their pinky finger in purple unwashable ink"??? BradBlog Mar 2012 #36
I have one Brad. If there is a question about the result of an election sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #37
Yes, that has happened and has been done before. Ask for a public records request. joshcryer Mar 2012 #40
Good luck with that! BradBlog Mar 2012 #56
3506.18 Electronic voting machine - verified paper audit trail as official ballot in recount. joshcryer Mar 2012 #63
"in recount" BradBlog Mar 2012 #69
If a voter verified paper audit trail is made available to the public = FOIA joshcryer Mar 2012 #72
An unsatisfying answer for ya... BradBlog Mar 2012 #55
Voter verified paper audit trails shall be preserved in the same manner and for the same time period joshcryer Mar 2012 #67
Thanks, that's what I thought. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #70
You can request an audit. Please do. But then you wouldn't get hits on your site... joshcryer Mar 2012 #39
What the hell is wrong with you, dude? And why are YOU posting false information?? BradBlog Mar 2012 #57
100% unverifiable = FALSE, dishonest joshcryer Mar 2012 #61
So you continue to defame? Really??? BradBlog Mar 2012 #71
I have already established that you are posting misinformation. Call me a liar all you want. joshcryer Mar 2012 #73
Simple Watson. Kaptur supporters knew how to read and use computers. nt bluestate10 Mar 2012 #42
and once again the uppercrust dems are arrogant jerks fascisthunter Mar 2012 #48
oh, Democrats are hacking machines now? PeaceNikki Mar 2012 #43
An audit would reveal any hacks. joshcryer Mar 2012 #44
No, it wouldn't. (Or, at least there is no guarantee of that) BradBlog Mar 2012 #59
The audit trial is considered paper ballots in the event of auditing. joshcryer Mar 2012 #65
WRONG. AGAIN. DUDE. Jesus... BradBlog Mar 2012 #74
You're the one contending that something fishy is going on, yet all your evidence is... joshcryer Mar 2012 #76
To quote the noted computer security expert David Dill-- eridani Mar 2012 #105
Why would you assume Democrats? quakerboy Mar 2012 #51
Who said Democrats -- or anyone -- is hacking the machines? BradBlog Mar 2012 #58
Your question was false, misleading, disinformation. joshcryer Mar 2012 #64
A question can be "false" and "disinformation"? Really? BradBlog Mar 2012 #75
"question about the seemingly implausible and certainly unverifiable results" joshcryer Mar 2012 #78
You may have trouble with the definition of the word "false" BradBlog Mar 2012 #99
What evidence have you provided? joshcryer Mar 2012 #102
so far it looks like you are losing this argument.. snooper2 Mar 2012 #115
I disagree. Can you expand on that? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #125
For example, notice how BradBlog hasn't responded to post #102 snooper2 Mar 2012 #126
Actually Brad has responded to almost all of joshcryer's posts most of which sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #127
I guess we have our own opinions :) snooper2 Mar 2012 #128
True, but opinions are not worth very much, yours or mine. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #136
I totally disagree. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #150
It was not false and it was not unclear. I understood what sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #77
I have spoken for myself and I have yet to be refuted. joshcryer Mar 2012 #80
No one insulted you. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #82
Yes you did. "make sure to be clear that it is YOU who does not understand what he posted" joshcryer Mar 2012 #83
It is only YOUR opinion that the 'OP is not giving correct information' and it is my sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #88
I have established that the information is wrong. It is not 100% unverifiable. joshcryer Mar 2012 #89
You have "established" nothing of the kind. But you HAVE defamed me with your misinformation. BradBlog Mar 2012 #98
There has been no audit. Why don't you go do one? joshcryer Mar 2012 #100
it's not implausible in my experience hfojvt Mar 2012 #45
Oh no... the centrist dems didn't push him out fascisthunter Mar 2012 #47
I personally think Venezuela's system is cleaner than our own. joshcryer Mar 2012 #68
Luckily, citizen oversight has nothing to do with what JoshCryer "thinks"... BradBlog Mar 2012 #79
I've yet to be convinced. See, the poll workers, in the end, are the weakest link. joshcryer Mar 2012 #81
Yes, Very Probable ISUGRADIA Mar 2012 #50
I like Kucinich as much as the next guy but I'm sick of all this conspiracy shit.... FLAprogressive Mar 2012 #54
I've totally lost all faith in both the voting and political system. Zorra Mar 2012 #84
I haven't had confidence in the integrity of the vote since 2000. AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #85
I wonder how many here that are making uninformed comments have actually been to Toledo. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #91
It might have a little bit to do with this dsc Mar 2012 #94
Well duh! We've all been here long enough to know that if my preferred candidate loses, tritsofme Mar 2012 #95
I agree with the alerter - conspiracy theory. Locking. HopeHoops Mar 2012 #97
Whatever convinced you to unlock it is, imo, peer pressure. joshcryer Mar 2012 #101
It may be verifiable, but is is never verified unless you actually do an audit eridani Mar 2012 #106
No vote is "verified" unless the vote is handled by mutual observers. joshcryer Mar 2012 #122
Utter nonsense. Lucas County has touchscreen DREs, which can never be verified. eridani Mar 2012 #132
Circles. Going in circles. VVAT = verifiable. Period. joshcryer Mar 2012 #133
You still haven't explained why we should trust the output of any proprietary software eridani Mar 2012 #137
No where did I say that. joshcryer Mar 2012 #138
Please reread post # 55 eridani Mar 2012 #142
I did not say it was unhackable. joshcryer Mar 2012 #144
Not at all. Unless you are suggesting that forensic analysis of programs is routine eridani Mar 2012 #145
Thank you: sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #135
You're entitled to your opinion, but it wasn't peer pressure - it was a careful review of the thread HopeHoops Mar 2012 #108
To get a result like this, two things needed to happen: Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #103
Issues be damned, name recognition ALONE should have been, what, 5% to 15%.... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #107
Why would name recognition matter onenote Mar 2012 #114
I'm told there are some people out there who actually don't follow issues.... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #117
Even if they didn't follow issues, anyone showing up to vote in a Democratic primary in Lucas County onenote Mar 2012 #119
Let's say 10% of primary voters voted purely on name recognition and not issues... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #120
It is sad that people just refuse to realize that outside of his district in Ohio, Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #104
This is ridiculous. Jennicut Mar 2012 #110
Part of the problem with this redistricting Nikia Mar 2012 #111
Actually, DK did better in Lucas County this year than in 2004 onenote Mar 2012 #112
Do you have a source for that? I tried in vain to find it. joshcryer Mar 2012 #121
Here you go onenote Mar 2012 #123
What do you want? A perfect recording of actual votes? Now that's plain silly! Better Believe It Mar 2012 #124
Would we be having this debate if the vote in Lucas County was 75/25 for Kaptur? onenote Mar 2012 #129
Of course not. joshcryer Mar 2012 #134
If you knew anything about Ohio politics you would know that DK is NOT beloved in any WCGreen Mar 2012 #139
Thanks. I was informed of that, and his attacks in Toledo. joshcryer Mar 2012 #141
No, unfortunately. And THAT is the real threat to election integrity. eridani Mar 2012 #151
K & R! lonestarnot Mar 2012 #140
The Shadow Government views Kucinich as a threat Ter Mar 2012 #143
are you seriously suggesting that Kucinich really defeated Kaptur? onenote Mar 2012 #146
Jesus, DK is no threat to anyone... WCGreen Mar 2012 #147
Well, those who worked with him in Congress, disagree with you. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #148
I've known DK personally since 1994 when he had his comback... WCGreen Mar 2012 #149
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