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aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
5. And if the"no gun in GD" rule comes back there is always 2 groups
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 09:51 PM
Dec 2013

where one can share his or her thoughts.
Off to the greatest you go! madinmaryland Dec 2013 #1
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2013 #2
My take on it is a lot of gun nuts are just more terrified to die than the rest of us. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #3
They love to tell us about how much crime has dropped when we express concern about guns Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #4
Yup! Agschmid Dec 2013 #21
And if the"no gun in GD" rule comes back there is always 2 groups aikoaiko Dec 2013 #5
Sure, but it is always good to have open discussion on the issues of the day Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #7
The NRA certainly has its own set of problems seveneyes Dec 2013 #6
Of course not, no one wants to let the person who pulled the trigger off the hook Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #8
It comes down to intent albino65 Dec 2013 #9
Not familiar with competitive target shooting, I see hack89 Dec 2013 #12
please do not Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #17
Don't get your u-trou in a bunch albino65 Dec 2013 #32
Are you familiar with the Democratic party platform? hack89 Dec 2013 #33
What don't you get? albino65 Dec 2013 #34
"the second amendment states that a well regulated militia is the reason..." hack89 Dec 2013 #35
Here it is albino65 Dec 2013 #36
I am merely agreeing with the president and the party platform hack89 Dec 2013 #37
Good to know that you agree with the President that the assault weapons ban should be reinstated Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #38
It would be irrelevant to me as it is not retroactive hack89 Dec 2013 #40
But you said in post 37 that you agree with Obama Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #42
Obama also supports drone attacks and the NSA hack89 Dec 2013 #45
I have vocally disagreed with him on drone attacks and the NSA as well Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #46
I actually agree that lockstep uniformity has no place in the Democratic Party hack89 Dec 2013 #50
I do agree with a lot of what you said in this post Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #55
He is pro-gun control but it is not a high priority as far as I can see hack89 Dec 2013 #58
He has made it a pretty major issue in his second term Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #61
He refuses to strong arm pro-gun Dems that are up for reelection hack89 Dec 2013 #74
I admit that shitty Democrats are a problem Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #82
It is easy to push for things you know have no chance of passing hack89 Dec 2013 #87
Good point, we need to restrict handguns as well. Hoyt Dec 2013 #59
The biggest problem I see is that BOTH sides have to be rational, and one side world wide wally Dec 2013 #10
Gun control advocates will figure out the law eventually hack89 Dec 2013 #14
^ Point proven world wide wally Dec 2013 #18
The 2A protects an individual right to own guns according to both the president hack89 Dec 2013 #23
I think so Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #28
If that is what the Democratic platform says, then YES, it is distorted. I am not a mystic world wide wally Dec 2013 #39
It is also what the president believes hack89 Dec 2013 #41
Not to me. And I also don't think the Prez is as much of a gun control deregulator as you seem to world wide wally Dec 2013 #43
He taught constitutional law - he understands the 2A hack89 Dec 2013 #44
Now if only the NRA and it's "ditto heads" could understand it, we would all be better off world wide wally Dec 2013 #48
They believe it is an individual right just like the president . Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #49
No, the NRA does not believe "just like the President" Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #51
The issue is militia versus individual right. hack89 Dec 2013 #53
So his position is actually not "just like" the NRA position as you previously stated. Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #56
Please go back to the start of this sub thread hack89 Dec 2013 #64
Yes Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito and Kennedy were very clear in the Heller decision Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #70
not all will agree Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #77
True, it is pretty much only right-wing nuts who agree with those five Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #96
Umm, the president agreed with the individual rights approach *before* Heller. n/t X_Digger Dec 2013 #81
The president supports gun control, you may not want to accept that but he does Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #91
Which has no bearing on my comment. Do keep up, yes? n/t X_Digger Dec 2013 #93
You can try to pretend Obama's position on individual rights is the same as the Supreme Court's Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #98
You said.. and I quote.. X_Digger Dec 2013 #102
But Heller was a very limited decision that disappointed the NRA hack89 Dec 2013 #83
whatever they believe, they are liars G_j Dec 2013 #115
True. Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #118
+100 billh58 Dec 2013 #15
+100 Agschmid Dec 2013 #20
So what is the correct view of the 2A? Nt hack89 Dec 2013 #24
you know they will not answer Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #27
The correct view of the 2A is that early on in our country's formation, the only way they could world wide wally Dec 2013 #47
The Constitution describes the method to change the 2A hack89 Dec 2013 #52
If that were true, why did the northern states incorporate the same right in their respective.. X_Digger Dec 2013 #54
sound of head exploding nt Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #60
I don't think any of those envisioned the 21st century gun fanciers' abuse of the bearing of arms. Hoyt Dec 2013 #63
Have anything actually in response to my question, or are you just going to post snark? X_Digger Dec 2013 #67
The fact is, gun fanciers are not arming up for the reasons envisioned in the 2nd Amendment, or Hoyt Dec 2013 #68
As usual- evade, distract, and obfuscate. X_Digger Dec 2013 #73
please post where I Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #75
Where, oh where, has Hoyt gone? X_Digger Dec 2013 #104
Please refer to reply #10 world wide wally Dec 2013 #111
That's not an answer. Since it was you who originally posited it, care to answer? X_Digger Dec 2013 #114
PlEase read the "other" reasons to understand why they compromised world wide wally Dec 2013 #125
That's a non-answer. X_Digger Dec 2013 #128
"Today you would be hard pressed to find any open space at all." Jenoch Dec 2013 #133
or most states Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #138
Being west of the Mississippi Jenoch Dec 2013 #141
very true Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #143
You are thinking in terms of 21st century America where open space may mean a couple square world wide wally Dec 2013 #145
You are attempting to make an extreme and Jenoch Dec 2013 #146
Kicked & recommended. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #11
K&R billh58 Dec 2013 #13
Money buys power Fred Sanders Dec 2013 #16
Take away the money from any pipoman Dec 2013 #26
Thanks for this OP. K&R. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2013 #19
Kicked! Agschmid Dec 2013 #22
Rec just for using the term "NRA Nutcases" - TBF Dec 2013 #25
please do not forget DiFi Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #29
I am glad we can agree that hand guns are an even bigger problem than assault rifles Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #31
I regret I can only rec this once etherealtruth Dec 2013 #30
Did the NRA have anything to do with the latest school shooting? LittleBlue Dec 2013 #57
*shh* You're ruining it! LAGC Dec 2013 #62
You could lose the sarcasm and help the pro-gun side a little. Just an idea. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #85
you support the NRA? nt G_j Dec 2013 #117
Not particularly. LAGC Dec 2013 #123
seems to me the biggest opponent to solutions G_j Dec 2013 #124
Nonsense. beevul Dec 2013 #126
do you support the NRA? nt G_j Dec 2013 #127
Not particularly. beevul Dec 2013 #129
not particularly? G_j Dec 2013 #130
I was a member 20+ years ago. beevul Dec 2013 #131
that was not the conversation I was involved in G_j Dec 2013 #132
These "solutions"... beevul Dec 2013 #134
There are other solutions besides restricting the particular tools that people happen to use... LAGC Dec 2013 #135
did you not read my simple statement? G_j Dec 2013 #136
Yes, the NRA has been a major obstacle to gun-related "solutions." LAGC Dec 2013 #137
it's not "my way" G_j Dec 2013 #139
Why do you choose to keep fighting them then? LAGC Dec 2013 #140
no way G_j Dec 2013 #142
All I know is that they are very effective at mobilizing their voting base. LAGC Dec 2013 #144
they invented pump shotguns Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #65
Yes, the fact that a teenager can legally go buy a gun is a result of NRA pressure for weak gun laws Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #66
An 18-year-old is old enough to vote and serve in the military. LAGC Dec 2013 #69
If you have to be 21 to drink then 21 seems reasonable to buy a weapon as well Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #72
and drive Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #78
Smoke I agree. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #86
for gods sake Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #71
A gun is not the same thing as a ballot or a car, your comparisions are ridiculous. Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #76
tell that to their families Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #80
Never suggested anything like that is OK because no gun is involved Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #88
Well the teenager is 18, so he's an adult LittleBlue Dec 2013 #79
As I have said more than once 18 year olds should not be able to buy guns Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #89
The NRA isn't exactly responsible for that LittleBlue Dec 2013 #90
It is not about the "treshold for adulthood" Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #92
up to the states Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #94
Actually the drinking age is really not up to the states Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #99
Well, you're right about that. LAGC Dec 2013 #95
Drinking is a special exception LittleBlue Dec 2013 #100
I can assure you there would be substantial support if it were proposed Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #101
Your assurance isn't what I'm looking for LittleBlue Dec 2013 #103
Give me a few hundred thousand dollars to conduct a poll and I will get that number for you Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #105
There's a pretty good argument that the drinking age should be lowered to 16. LAGC Dec 2013 #106
I would be open to such an argument, but that is for a different thread Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #109
Fair enough. LAGC Dec 2013 #113
Part of the reason the NRA has more money than the gun control advocates... Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #116
so it is your opinion Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #107
right to keep and bear drinks Duckhunter935 Dec 2013 #108
But they're old enough to join the military, be deployed to a combat zone, Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #119
I am no fan of our wars of aggression Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #120
Guns are LEGAL to manufacturer, sell, purchase and own. There is NO WAY to solve this problem.... Logical Dec 2013 #84
Yep, do nothing and in another decade we'll have 100 million more gunz to deal with when Hoyt Dec 2013 #97
You are maybe the least reasonable person on this topic..... Logical Dec 2013 #110
Simple, do what is best for the country, not just gun fanciers. Hoyt Dec 2013 #112
So, in the end, you have no solutions beyond the usual demagoguery? Ranchemp. Dec 2013 #121
You are really not rational. Like I said, no real discussion. Just whining to whine. nt Logical Dec 2013 #122
Then they have a much better reason for having unlimited weapons in Alaska world wide wally Dec 2013 #147
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