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In reply to the discussion: why i can't oppose the death penalty in all cases [View all]Atman
(31,464 posts)47. But don't you see, just because YOU think it's heinous...
Doesn't automatically mean everyone else will. So you set yourself up -- or some other arbitrarily selected human -- to become the final judge. I'm not speaking hypotheticals, btw. Real world; over in Freeperville and The Cave they're perfectly happy to see certain women and children gunned down and burned, because after all, they're just lowly Muslims. Now, these are your fellow Americans saying this openly, in part because their favorite politicians have ginned up the hatred and fear in them. What if one of them got to decide, not you? Remember, THEY think WE are the screwed up ones for not promoting the soldier for doing his job (that, btw, comes from an actual post).
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counting down the moments your certain and imminent death is not punishment?
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#18
so then you oppose executing this person(s)( because it is not punishment enough?
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#34
The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 and wounded 25. Would you have advocated the death penalty for
cherokeeprogressive
Mar 2012
#2
no, i just think executing someone who has been dead for almost 5 years is a waste of time.
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#51
I've always been against the DP but when it comes to kids, I'm changing my opinion.
polly7
Mar 2012
#3
So you believe in killing people but only if you have to hire killers to kill them.
Luminous Animal
Mar 2012
#35
nor am i willing to personally arrest, arraign, hold them for trial or try them
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#39
Gotta say. I can, with good concience, hire someone to pick up my garbage... not so much with
Luminous Animal
Mar 2012
#41
without a single eyewitness, or confession. quite unlike the case at hand.
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#26
no, it would have to be heinous and there be no doubt as to the killer's identity
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#15
so i can't think it is heinous? do you actually believe i am proposing a
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#56
Then you're left with so few cases it becomes a "cruel and unusual punishment"
starroute
Mar 2012
#52
i think you are making a circular argument - not trying to be rude - but i think you are
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#53
I think the different between our positions is that you think of it as "punishment"
starroute
Mar 2012
#68
So your plan involves changing the whole criminal justice system? And change 'reasonable doubt'....
Logical
Mar 2012
#60
Most jurys have the chance to pick life in prison. I assume when they choose death they are sure....
Logical
Mar 2012
#67
except for the "in all cases" part we do not disagree on anything you wrote
arely staircase
Mar 2012
#31
I can. It's an antiquated, barbaric practice that brings us down as a civilized society.
NYC Liberal
Mar 2012
#27
our military has murdered a lot of women and Poor Children in the past 10 years, what about those? n
msongs
Mar 2012
#42
You know, I defended your position yesterday even though I didn't agree with it
DisgustipatedinCA
Apr 2012
#111
If someone is attempting to kill a member of my family, I have a moral and ethical case ...
11 Bravo
Mar 2012
#70
I'm normally against the death penalty, but I make an exception only for the following
meow2u3
Mar 2012
#50
The issue is that many people end up on death row WHO DID NOT commit the murder. How can....
Logical
Mar 2012
#54
I have less sympathy for those who kill while sane and sober..like the drone operators.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2012
#76
Will you take it off the table now that you know he had a traumatic brain injury in 2010?
cherokeeprogressive
Mar 2012
#89
You're such a hardass... I bet seats and chairs hurt when you're done with them.
cherokeeprogressive
Mar 2012
#102