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3. I hope it's real...It's long past time it was said in those terms...nt

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No, you can't deny women their basic rights and pretend it's about your 'religious freedom'. [View all] Playinghardball Dec 2013 OP

Is this actually a direct quote? MsPithy Dec 2013 #1

If he didn't say it Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #2

It had better be a quote.... daleanime Dec 2013 #4

I would bet real cashmoney Obama never said this. MsPithy Dec 2013 #17

You are absolutely correct -- n/t mazzarro Dec 2013 #91

I have to say, it doesn't ring true...................nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #108

Damn Skippy Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #32

Unholy peanut butter? daleanime Dec 2013 #93

I hope it's real...It's long past time it was said in those terms...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2013 #3

Prior to the mandate this was never an issue. The mandate created this mess. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #5

Hate of Obama caused it - not the mandate FreeState Dec 2013 #8

Not everyone with a potential conscience exception does business in CA. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #16

What freedom of access? hfojvt Dec 2013 #19

We agree 142.85% Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #22

So, I take it you're against SNAP? n/t kcr Dec 2013 #35

Actually, including birth control as a part of health insurance is, for many women, a health issue. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #89

Exactly, it's a health issue. laundry_queen Dec 2013 #114

Um, duh. The mandate is for the purpose of keeping third parties out of it. ZRT2209 Dec 2013 #10

Then it has obviously failed spectacularly to achieve its stated objective. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #13

because right wing assholes are fighting it? what's your solution - roll over and take it? ZRT2209 Dec 2013 #14

I want employers out of the business of influencing whether or not I have access to BC. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #18

PPFA clinics have been and continue to be shut down BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #85

Then let's prohibit employers from providing insurance at all. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #90

If you have ever worked for a company that provided health insurance ... JoePhilly Dec 2013 #15

You claim -- Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #20

Did I say ALL BC everywhere is always covered? JoePhilly Dec 2013 #25

Based on your previously unqualified declaration my response was on the mark. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #27

Again, John Boehner awaits your call on this very important distinction. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #36

In other words Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #39

I think you don't have an actual argument in the first place. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #41

The situation never happened prior to the HHS mandate. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #42

How do you propose for this "decoupling" to occur? JoePhilly Dec 2013 #43

The coupling of 3rd parties to BC is an HHS construct. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #51

its clear your access to BC doesn't change regardless of JoePhilly Dec 2013 #55

"So why do you care?" Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #61

No, I did not agree it was accessible or affordable. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #62

Your employer won't know kcr Dec 2013 #63

The government has decreed that all employers are responsible for BC. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #68

Then BC falls freely from the sky like rain I guess. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #71

Exactly. They're no more paying for birth control then they are paying for colonoscopies. kcr Dec 2013 #74

yup ... two words ... "total compensation" JoePhilly Dec 2013 #77

Then it's a battle lost kcr Dec 2013 #72

No, the insurance companies declare birth control to be a part of health care. Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #113

HIPPA ... but, but ... that's another LAW ... ARGHHHH!!!!!!!! JoePhilly Dec 2013 #69

Since I've previously refuted your past effort to employ this straw man argument Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #75

You argue that (a) you don't want your employer to control your access JoePhilly Dec 2013 #78

Horseshit MountainLaurel Dec 2013 #23

Horse poo to your horse poo Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #30

This was never an issue? kcr Dec 2013 #26

Please show me the pre-mandate court cases where an employer could interefere Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #28

Wow. In Nuclear Unicorn World, everyone could afford effective birth control, too. kcr Dec 2013 #33

You obviously don't know much about birth control. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #37

Ever hear about what's happening to family planning clinics? kcr Dec 2013 #40

"Otherwise, we'd still have child labor, with little bodies working in the coal mines." Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #48

How does it not apply? kcr Dec 2013 #52

So, we should let the guy in this lawsuit WIN ... cause low cost BC exists. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #44

Yes. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #49

Because its not low cost and easy access for everyone. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #53

Bingo on your last sentence kcr Dec 2013 #54

exactly. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #57

Ah yes, the "(s)he does't care enough" legal precedent. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #64

Try Texas. Here ... JoePhilly Dec 2013 #65

Texas, for one kcr Dec 2013 #67

Ding ding ding!!! JoePhilly Dec 2013 #70

They didn't need the courts before, they could just exclude BC JoePhilly Dec 2013 #50

"They didn't need the courts before, they could just exclude BC if they wanted to." Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2013 #56

Rand, is that you??? JoePhilly Dec 2013 #58

That was my first thought! kcr Dec 2013 #59

YUP ... after all the back and forth ... JoePhilly Dec 2013 #60

He never said it, though he's said similar things. NYC Liberal Dec 2013 #6

Fake quote pintobean Dec 2013 #7

That's certainly what he should say FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #9

If It's Fake, Take It Down BodieTown Dec 2013 #11

Just change it slightly Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #34

So that we have many fake speakers portrayed instead of only one? merrily Dec 2013 #98

Okay. Get a signed release from all persons portrayed. Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #111

If I work for a Muslim company, will I have to follow Sharia law? perdita9 Dec 2013 #12

What do you mean by Sharia law? el_bryanto Dec 2013 #21

It is about time someone said that. The rethugs continue to try to establish their theocracy while jwirr Dec 2013 #24

Amen! calimary Dec 2013 #29

Wish I could rec, but won't do it if the quote isn't genuine. bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #31

Whether it's a direct quote or not... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #38

Just returned to my office and saw all of the comments concerning this post... Playinghardball Dec 2013 #45

Why don't you edit it to state that while the quote certainly expresses the President's opinion grantcart Dec 2013 #66

Don't you think that folks on this board already know that it expresses the President's opinion? Playinghardball Dec 2013 #73

The issue is that it is presented as a direct quote which appears to be a misattribution. grantcart Dec 2013 #79

Recs trump honesty pintobean Dec 2013 #87

Recs trump sanity for some. grantcart Dec 2013 #88

This isn't a conservative website - it's fact-based! If this isn't an exact quote the thread ... JEFF9K Dec 2013 #46

That's ridiculous kcr Dec 2013 #47

The trouble with quotes posted on the internet... Playinghardball Dec 2013 #80

Not true. If you are careful you can and this is bogus. merrily Dec 2013 #97

Sorry, you voted for deception. merrily Dec 2013 #99

You mean, someone might think the president thinks women should have access to birth control? kcr Dec 2013 #109

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2013 #76

Wow, surely our President's statement on basis rights will be received as heretical and pure heresy indepat Dec 2013 #81

Didn't find anything on the internet to suggest that he said this. merrily Dec 2013 #96

Nice speech. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #82

It would be, if Obama had actually said it. merrily Dec 2013 #100

You should pull this bogus post down TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #83

I could not agree more. I cannot believe a jury voted to let deception stand. merrily Dec 2013 #101

YES! HELL. Fucking. YES! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #84

Search of the Internet gives no indication that Obama ever said this. merrily Dec 2013 #94

You can't deny people basic rights PERIOD and Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #86

I like this Obama quote. avaistheone1 Dec 2013 #92

It's not an obama quote. merrily Dec 2013 #95

I cannot believe a jury voted to let this deceptive OP stand. merrily Dec 2013 #102

I can't believe how many people come here and alert just to see B Calm Dec 2013 #103

You prefer to have a bogus post to stand to confuse people?. merrily Dec 2013 #104

uhhh, maybe because of your comment in post 102? B Calm Dec 2013 #105

Which does not say that I am the one who alerted, nor was I the one. Why would you merrily Dec 2013 #106

Nor did I say you were the one who alerted. I B Calm Dec 2013 #107

False attributions are not cool. TroglodyteScholar Dec 2013 #112

Great quote! egduj Dec 2013 #110