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KurtNYC

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13. Glyphosate gets used on lots of crops, not just GMs
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:44 PM
Dec 2013

so the issues with glyphosate are independent of any other issues that GM crops may have. Almost all organic foods test positive for pesticides, they are usually at lower levels than conventionals but not always:

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/2012/09/24/pesticides-food-fears/

The biggest experiment on GM foods is all of us eating them for the last 15 to 20 years. Millions of people eating trillions of calories from GMO foods. Shouldn't we be seeing something -- premature deaths, allergies, symptoms of poisoning, birth defects -- if these foods are unsafe for consumption?

To be clear, I am not 100% certain that EVERY permutation of GM crops are safe in every way (to grow, to eat, to use for bio fuels) but I am not seeing evidence of a major problem and many of the people who are the most scared have very little understanding of agriculture or genetics. Theirry points out the anti-biotic resistant genes (?) floating in China's rivers but that is a nebulous data point. Most of DNA in our bodies is not human -- it is bacterial. If you take a lot of anti-biotics then much of what is left in your body will likely show resistance to anti-biotics but that has nothing to do with GMO.

We need more rejections like this. RC Dec 2013 #1
GM corn is the basis of 40% of the calories in the American diet KurtNYC Dec 2013 #5
Oh yes it is about whether GM corn is safe. RC Dec 2013 #6
the corn in question was GM'd by Syngenta AG - a Swiss company KurtNYC Dec 2013 #12
How would we see evidence for a particular cause of disease, pnwmom Dec 2013 #18
Food is ingested so not an environmental toxin per se and ingestion varies from one person to the KurtNYC Dec 2013 #19
So? Food we ingest and environmental exposures could and do combine pnwmom Dec 2013 #20
GM food is labelled now -- if it says HFCS, corn, canola or soy it is KurtNYC Dec 2013 #29
There is currently no Federal or state requirement that all GM food be labeled. pnwmom Dec 2013 #30
yet there are laws that require the labelling of foods which contain peanuts, KurtNYC Dec 2013 #34
Exactly. How can they justify not labeling GM foods when so many other pnwmom Dec 2013 #35
And we know that formula fed babies ingest GM corn pnwmom Dec 2013 #32
Ding, ding, ding. nt proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #38
This rejection is NOT about safety NickB79 Dec 2013 #23
China does care about the health and safety of their people KurtNYC Dec 2013 #31
Miss this? proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #10
More. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #11
Glyphosate gets used on lots of crops, not just GMs KurtNYC Dec 2013 #13
So much misdirection/information, so little time; we're not hearing what experts are seeing. WHY? proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #15
Misdirection indeed. What does pink slime and journalistic lawsuits have to do with KurtNYC Dec 2013 #21
Unreported evidence both anecdotal and peer-reviewed does exist suggesting problems with gmos. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #24
If you have any peer reviewed studies I will look them over KurtNYC Dec 2013 #33
It's disingenuous to ignore history. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #40
Check it out (includes peer-reviewed studies as citations). proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #41
That paper simply advocates the labeling of GE foods, it isn't a peer reviewed study KurtNYC Dec 2013 #43
Focus on post #40, please, especially 'Dr Pusztai on the 10th anniversary of GM safety scandal.' proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #44
Not a conspiracy, just business; see FOOD & WATER WATCH REPORT on Wikileaks cables. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #42
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Business Section NYT: 'The Epi-Pen's Maker Invests in Expansion As Allergy Rates in Children Rise' proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #27
A country that allows lead in toys, rejects GMO corn? CoffeeCat Dec 2013 #2
So now we need to reject that shit Generic Other Dec 2013 #3
This is one of the key reasons we're pushing the TPP. Laelth Dec 2013 #4
TPP was my first thought... n/t HereSince1628 Dec 2013 #36
Guess there wasn't enough melamine in it nt Dreamer Tatum Dec 2013 #7
Wow, the country that sends us killer dog food has stricter measures joeybee12 Dec 2013 #8
WTF? 'feeding damage caused by moths, butterflies, and other lepidopteran insects' freshwest Dec 2013 #9
Uh, one of the most destructive corn insect pests is a moth. MineralMan Dec 2013 #16
K&R woo me with science Dec 2013 #14
Meh, China grows their own GM crops... Javaman Dec 2013 #17
what, it didn't have enough lead or melamine in it for their liking? dionysus Dec 2013 #22
"Beijing's quality watchdog" is now a reputable source? Fuck me with a rusty rake! 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #26
Here's a reputable source. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #28
More Big GMO, Inc (R) occultism Berlum Dec 2013 #37
Nah, just typical corporate maneuvering under the guise of altruistic and humanitarian motives. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #39
Additional notes re: post #43, including PLOS ONE: Complete Genes May Pass from Food to Human Blood. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #45
More. proverbialwisdom Dec 2013 #46
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