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Tue Dec 3, 2013, 03:36 PM

23. "In a well-ordered republic ...

… it should never be necessary to resort to extra-constitutional measures" - N Machiavelli

You are right, it is intentional, not waste.

The other side of National Security has more potential than any foreign adversary to bring down our Republic. It operates beyond the Constitution, the law, accountability, oversight, etc. A couple Congresspeople are the only effective oversight, and they've been more than happy to ask no questions, and if they do, to wait years for partial or forged documentation reviewed by a new pliant commitee chair.

Why doesn't anyone with authority ever follow 'the money'? In this case its taxpayer dollars to the Pentagon, and that is merely what they admit.

The Black Budget has been additionally funded by tens of billions in drug money since the 80s at least. Iran-Contra and Danilo Blandon are as bright a light as will ever shine on these activities. Since then, mostly undocumented, or, as you say, dismissed as overages.

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96 replies	Author	Time	Post
8.5 TRILLION !!! - The Pentagon's Doctored Ledgers Conceal Epic Waste - Reuters [View all]	WillyT	Dec 2013	OP
kick for visibility	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2013	#1
seriously. another kick and a rec.	Voice for Peace	Dec 2013	#5
I am not suprized at all.	Heather MC	Dec 2013	#34
really.	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2013	#45
I think 60 minutes is going to do a story on this.	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#54
ha!	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2013	#56
Obama Wastes 8.5 Trillion on Benghazi Massacre.	valerief	Dec 2013	#67
And therefore the failed invasion of Iraq was Obama's fault. Put Lara on it. nm	rhett o rick	Dec 2013	#85
What a fucking racket! Why should I pay taxes for this bullshit?	Comrade Grumpy	Dec 2013	#2
The US is the biggest banana in the history	tina tron	Dec 2013	#3
+1000000	Chrom	Dec 2013	#96
Good god	sakabatou	Dec 2013	#4
Darryl Issa announced hearings! Tea Party demands repeal of Pentagon!	Ian_rd	Dec 2013	#6
I always like to needle the Repugs who want to cut the budget,	Ace Acme	Dec 2013	#15
Prob been going on at some level or another for a very long time...	Tikki	Dec 2013	#7
Since 1860!	Hubert Flottz	Dec 2013	#78
"The Union’s ‘Shoddy’ Aristocracy"	Hubert Flottz	Dec 2013	#81
$8.5T would be the total of DoD budgets for 1996-2013	JHB	Dec 2013	#8
Right, we got warehouses full of $1000 hammers and $1500 toilet seats. nt	Ace Acme	Dec 2013	#13
We do have warehouses with tools and parts...	JHB	Dec 2013	#25
K&R	me b zola	Dec 2013	#9
It's not lost or waste	NightWatcher	Dec 2013	#10
"In a well-ordered republic ...	Deny and Shred	Dec 2013	#23
September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon could not account for	Ace Acme	Dec 2013	#26
Agreed. Don't get me started … (eom)	Deny and Shred	Dec 2013	#28
Yep, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush and their cronies got to pocket $2.3 TRILLION in stolen money...	harrose	Dec 2013	#64
I would sure hate to be a "truther."	dotymed	Dec 2013	#80
Funny how those types of coincidences happen. nt	valerief	Dec 2013	#68
The DoD really does not spend $350 for a hammer.	Drahthaardogs	Dec 2013	#52
There's an element of that,	truebluegreen	Dec 2013	#83
Repurposing the DoD to the defense of the national borders of the USA	Ace Acme	Dec 2013	#86
I'd go for that and then abolishing--not outsourcing--	truebluegreen	Dec 2013	#88
Because we are Rome.	Drahthaardogs	Dec 2013	#91
Yeah, I know.	truebluegreen	Dec 2013	#94
But I guess in the history of the world, someone always has to be Rome.	Drahthaardogs	Dec 2013	#95
How much proof that we are a fascist nation	dotymed	Dec 2013	#79
I blame needy seniors and needy disabled people.	merrily	Dec 2013	#11
I agree--we can fix this by cutting foodstamps!	Orrex	Dec 2013	#12
Simply...	TRoN33	Dec 2013	#14
We don't have money to feed the poor	The Wizard	Dec 2013	#16
quick!	G_j	Dec 2013	#17
Rumsfield tried to get it under control	Ezlivin	Dec 2013	#18
Look, just know that the "missing $$$" are not missing. They are in the pockets of the MIC.	kelliekat44	Dec 2013	#55
And the Repubbies want to slash Social Security to be sure the Pentagon, Inc. (R) gets oodles more	Berlum	Dec 2013	#19
Democrat Leon Panetta said, "Cut entitlements, not the military."	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#72
Yep, that's pretty much the norm.	DrDebug	Dec 2013	#20
''Money trumps peace.'' -- George W Bush, Feb. 14, 2007	Octafish	Dec 2013	#21
But, but, but... Our government doesn't do conspiracies.	RC	Dec 2013	#33
You should recognize that WE ARE NUMBER ONE!	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#73
Yeah, we're #1 alright.	RC	Dec 2013	#82
That smirking SOB!	trusty elf	Dec 2013	#70
du rec.	xchrom	Dec 2013	#22
The biggest welfare trough in the universe, no little people allowed. K&R	Egalitarian Thug	Dec 2013	#24
9/10/11 - Rumsfeld presser about the 1,400 accounting systems used at DoD	underpants	Dec 2013	#27
You mean 9/10/01 of course, not 9/10/11, which is what you wrote. nt	Electric Monk	Dec 2013	#43
Oops yes	underpants	Dec 2013	#74
SO when they come around with thier hand out	nykym	Dec 2013	#29
Why wasn't/isn't this the main headline in every newspaper?	OnionPatch	Dec 2013	#30
The ACA website glitches are the top story	Blue Owl	Dec 2013	#48
General Electric (Defense Contractor & more) has their own major TV network...	Dustlawyer	Dec 2013	#60
Presidents come & go, the military is constant...who runs the country?	spanone	Dec 2013	#31
JFK and LBJ being a case in point.	Ace Acme	Dec 2013	#32
20-year-old men who foolishly do the bidding of the Pentagon criminals actually run	valerief	Dec 2013	#69
...	2naSalit	Dec 2013	#35
And of course, when some of us look up at the sky, and	truedelphi	Dec 2013	#36
Isn't it about time for some bodies to go to gaol?	Octafish	Dec 2013	#37
K & R n/t	glinda	Dec 2013	#38
We really need to cut food stamps	jsr	Dec 2013	#39
Seems like a perfectly believable number to me.	99Forever	Dec 2013	#40
let's see	wildbilln864	Dec 2013	#41
Disgusting - especially when children go hungry and we're debating chained CPI. Just disgusting. K&R	myrna minx	Dec 2013	#42
Greedy fucking criminals looting the US treasury.	JEB	Dec 2013	#44
Who then? Let's see the possible names	flamingdem	Dec 2013	#46
"unsubstantiated change actions" should go down in history along with enhanced rendition.	Festivito	Dec 2013	#47
K&r	Liberal_in_LA	Dec 2013	#49
Funny how the teabaggers are so unconcerned about the giant satanic symbol	Blue Owl	Dec 2013	#50
Remember what happened last time they tried to audit the Pentagon?	debunkthis	Dec 2013	#51
Not surprised based off their budget and what they've got to show for it. Epic.	Phlem	Dec 2013	#53
but of fucking course!	lonestarnot	Dec 2013	#57
So much waste. And so many excuses.	blkmusclmachine	Dec 2013	#58
and k & r! n/t	wildbilln864	Dec 2013	#59
But what about Bengazi(NT)	The Wizard	Dec 2013	#61
+1	uponit7771	Dec 2013	#62
Bet This Gets Zero Play From Faux News	colsohlibgal	Dec 2013	#63
Translation: Black programs	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2013	#65
+1	Blue_Tires	Dec 2013	#90
Yes yes yers. Black op programs, that are becoming more and more prevalent.	truedelphi	Dec 2013	#92
And who is going to do something about it?? We heard about this years ago. The Trilions that	sabrina 1	Dec 2013	#66
And they cry like babies..	sendero	Dec 2013	#71
The nation's real enemy is the military industrial complex.	Enthusiast	Dec 2013	#75
The MIC has got to find and return that money the way it tried to find Bin Laden.Sequester continues	ancianita	Dec 2013	#76
The "BAD APPLES"	Hubert Flottz	Dec 2013	#77
Right. That's called "trickle down". nt	Ace Acme	Dec 2013	#87
Disgusted K/R	marmar	Dec 2013	#84
Clearly illustrating the sound reasoning for this claim:	ronnie624	Dec 2013	#89
But we're blaming retirees for our problems??	WinkyDink	Dec 2013	#93

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