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Comrade Grumpy

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126. Lame. No argument, just invective.

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Questions for those Dems who think Nader and Third Party Voters are [View all] truedelphi Nov 2013 OP

one word Nitram Nov 2013 #1

Two additional words Gothmog Nov 2013 #3

Seven words. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #35

Two SCOTUS opinions Gothmog Dec 2013 #37

Or if Gore had the entire state of Floriday recounted. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #60

The recount would not have needed but for Nader's sabotage Gothmog Dec 2013 #65

Al Gore did everything he could on the recount. creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #105

Two additional idiots who not be on the Federal Circuit Courts without Nader Gothmog Dec 2013 #38

Two more words... SidDithers Dec 2013 #136

I realized a while ago that he's 2001's Snowden MisterP Nov 2013 #2

This will go well. bvar22 Nov 2013 #4

When you place the blame for YOUR failures on someone else, you never get to fix the problem. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #17

is all that straw really relevant to the OP's questions? hfojvt Dec 2013 #95

Straw?... I think not. bvar22 Dec 2013 #103

"Loyal Democrat" creeksneakers2 Dec 2013 #104

But Nader took money from RNC Donors so that shows you he was paid for. Tigress DEM Dec 2013 #127

Republicans wet dream is to split the democratic vote. B Calm Dec 2013 #131

Pay attention to what they *do*, not what they *say*. Obama didn't want a Public Option, for example Romulox Nov 2013 #5

Not true. nt jazzimov Nov 2013 #8

This is simply wrong Gothmog Dec 2013 #39

That's revisionist history. ACA passed with 60 votes in the Senate. Only 51 were needed to end the Romulox Dec 2013 #43

You are wrong Gothmog Dec 2013 #45

Nope. Senate rules can be (and just were) changed on majority vote. Very recent history proves it. Romulox Dec 2013 #53

You are wrong Gothmog Dec 2013 #64

THANK YOU for pointing this out. "we only had 59 votes" is going around lately, too. DireStrike Dec 2013 #59

The margin in FL in '00 was so small that it is clear Nader voters made the difference. Motown_Johnny Nov 2013 #6

Okay MoTown Johnny - truedelphi Nov 2013 #7

Excuse me, I live in Tennessee. jazzimov Nov 2013 #9

If third party votes matter, then the Democratic Party needs to truedelphi Nov 2013 #10

At least in part because Nader was lying to progressives, pnwmom Nov 2013 #19

From what you say, it sounds like Gore goofed by not campaigning in Tennessee Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #75

Forget Tennesee and Florida One of the 99 Nov 2013 #12

Good post Gothmog Dec 2013 #40

Gore's full-throated support of NAFTA was enough to kill enthusiasm for him, all by itself. Romulox Dec 2013 #44

They should stop worrying about the registered Dems who voted for Nader ... dawg Nov 2013 #11

I hear you about the cetnrist Democrats who voted for Bush - truedelphi Nov 2013 #13

Or those that didn't volunteer. Chathamization Dec 2013 #62

Why do Nader voters refuse to take responsibility for their actions? One of the 99 Nov 2013 #14

Don't put this back on Nader voters - Gerrymandering is a far bigger concern - and truedelphi Nov 2013 #15

What Dem leaders? One of the 99 Nov 2013 #16

My OP brought up the idea that I have heard it said again and again truedelphi Nov 2013 #24

You haven't answered my question. Guess you can't One of the 99 Nov 2013 #29

Nader took money from Bush donors. riqster Nov 2013 #28

Very true. One of the 99 Nov 2013 #30

Zealotry is not always based on religion. nt riqster Nov 2013 #33

This is true, and by the way hold up a mirror and you'll find it there too 2banon Dec 2013 #114

Care to refute my points? nt riqster Dec 2013 #117

I agree with the point that Zealotry isn't necessarily based on a religious pov 2banon Dec 2013 #119

I was referring to his being funded by the Bushies, riqster Dec 2013 #120

hmm. 2banon Dec 2013 #124

Typical. riqster Dec 2013 #130

Facts? Got 'em. riqster Dec 2013 #135

The Democrats are fighting gerrymandering Gothmog Dec 2013 #41

Counter productive to Blame the Voters bvar22 Nov 2013 #22

Not blaming anyone. One of the 99 Nov 2013 #32

No. Of course you aren't. bvar22 Dec 2013 #46

Thanks. ;-) nt One of the 99 Dec 2013 #47

presumably if a person gets blamed for doing something awful hfojvt Dec 2013 #99

308,000 registered Florida Democrats voted for Bush. You were saying? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #48

And how many registered Florida Republicans voted for Gore? One of the 99 Dec 2013 #113

i know Nader voters personally who didnt care beachbum bob Dec 2013 #54

Nader voters, not Bush, responsible for Iraq War --beachbum bob, 2013 DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #125

Why? Because the Rethugs aren't pretending to be progressives. pnwmom Nov 2013 #18

Fuck Ralph and his Republican enabling apologists. (nt) great white snark Nov 2013 #20

The 3rd Way experts would rather whine about Nader than seek progresse/left votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #21

Nicely stated. truedelphi Nov 2013 #23

Great post! bigwillq Nov 2013 #26

damn right. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #36

So tellbus why Nader lost using your definition Skidmore Dec 2013 #66

So, why did voters vote for him rather than Gore? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #68

A huge plus one! nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #118

Fucking Nader trumad Nov 2013 #25

Agreed Gothmog Dec 2013 #42

And those 308,000 registered Florida Democrats who voted for Bush? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #49

Fuck Nader trumad Dec 2013 #63

Lame. No argument, just invective. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #126

Fucking Nader trumad Dec 2013 #132

There are no "Democrat Party Leaders" because there is no "Democrat Party" Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #27

Yes, I found that rather telling as well. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #51

It was a typo for Pete's sake. n/t truedelphi Dec 2013 #122

"There will be no typographical errors with the name of this Party" Agnosticsherbet Dec 2013 #123

No third party can win the Presidential election. upaloopa Nov 2013 #31

Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2013 #55

What about those electronic touch screen voting machines, in both 2000 and 2004, without any real RC Dec 2013 #34

A party should have to get 25% of the vote in primaries to get on the general ballots. CorrectOfCenter Dec 2013 #50

Are Greens still getting Rethug funding? JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #52

Green Party = Best GOP campaign expediture EVER. nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #57

I'll say! JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #58

Maybe people wouldn't feel the need to go to a third party if the democratic party represented liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #69

I was blaming the politicians arely staircase Dec 2013 #73

The GOP got their money worth Gothmog Dec 2013 #79

Nuck Fader arely staircase Dec 2013 #56

Majority demographics usually believe they are entitled to their privilage in some way. ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #61

I love how Nader voters keep trying to justify their complicity in Iraq... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #67

So, would you vote for Hillary and the other Democrats who supported the war in Iraq? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #71

"He didn't". And here's hoping the next candidate won't cater to it's extreme.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #77

Well, if he didn't "cater" to them he shouldn't squawk about not getting their votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #83

Did Gore "squawk"? I thought that was the o.p. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #84

OK. Then you shouldn't squawk because he failed to attract their votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #87

I'm a Democrat, posting on Democratic website. Fuck all the other noise. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #91

No one dictates how I vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #93

Then why do you post here? Given that the rules clearly say: Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #96

It beats working for a living. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #98

Tell Thomas J, I didn't make up the rules for DU. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #100

So no blame falls upon the 29 cowardly Senate Dems who voted for the Iraq War? Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #76

And if the purists had the sense God gave a lizard, Iraq would never have happened. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #78

In real life (the one where the Supreme Court appointed Bush), you know, Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #85

You mean the Supreme Court that Bush later appointed Alito & Roberts to? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #89

Roberts and Alioto whom the Senate Dems voted for Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #94

They weren't given much choice because of the Nader forces. I wish you... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #97

Nader didn't force the Senate Dems to approve Alioto and Roberts, Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #106

You're almost irrelevant. Win a f**in primary. I can see it all now..... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #108

And your remark is irrelevant to Senators who were Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #110

Well, you've been loads of laughs, but I'm bored now. And remember..... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #112

YOU'RE bored? Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #115

And everyone who voted for Clinton G_j Dec 2013 #81

No one died! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #82

then you DO take responsibility for G_j Dec 2013 #88

Exhibit A. Who says false equivalency is only for the right? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #90

? G_j Dec 2013 #92

It's worth saying again sagat Dec 2013 #70

Democratic Establishment officials treat their left wing like Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #72

If the Democrats didn't keep trying to push progressives out NuclearDem Dec 2013 #74

Jesse Ventura marlakay Dec 2013 #80

Note that three days before the election, 1/3 of voters were undecided Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #86

Funny how nobody ever seems to blame the butterfly ballot Revanchist Dec 2013 #101

or Katherine Harris, or the *admitted fraud* (it was on Time's front cover August 2001!) MisterP Dec 2013 #116

funny how people just re-hash Nader arguments hfojvt Dec 2013 #102

My guess is that Bernie Sanders (I) can run as a Democrat... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #107

Nader was the only option Riftaxe Dec 2013 #109

And in any event, gerrymandering, an issue apparently ignored by truedelphi Dec 2013 #121

Nader has the blood of thousands on his hands. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #129

What a waste of an OP. If you don't get the damage that fools voting like idiots caused in bluestate10 Dec 2013 #111

Nader is a liar who is just as responsible for the dead soldiers as anyone who voted for Bush... Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #128

why did GOP throw dollars at nader's campaign in 2000 and 2004? beachbum bob Dec 2013 #133

An aside: Ever wonder why we are "Dems" but Republicans are always "Republicans"? WinkyDink Dec 2013 #134