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JFK Conference: David Talbot named Allen Dulles as 'the Chairman of the Board of the Assassination' [View all] Octafish Nov 2013 OP

I think Obama may be facing the same kind of opposition and a lot of things are beyond kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #1

My thoughts on the eve of Predident Obama's inauguration... Octafish Nov 2013 #28

You called that one spot on, too Octafish. loudsue Nov 2013 #74

I disagree with you. Unknown Beatle Jan 2016 #180

Dulles (R - BFEE - Occultist) Berlum Nov 2013 #2

Cloak and Dagger had no place on the Warren Commission... Octafish Nov 2013 #32

Omg! I knew a little about this, but like so many others, found it hard to process. But if we are sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #71

Boston Globe: RFK never believed the Warren Commission MinM Jul 2015 #177

I suppose it would make many of our heads to spin... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #3

I'm not sure if we can handle the truth. (n/t) spin Nov 2013 #5

Indeed, be care with those United Fruit people DrDebug Nov 2013 #4

Rec your post! Demeter Nov 2013 #11

Allen Dulles and JCS chairman Lemnitzer told JFK the best time to attack USSR was 'Fall 1963' Octafish Nov 2013 #20

Very interesting story DrDebug Nov 2013 #73

I missed this when it first came up--this is crucial lost history yurbud Mar 2014 #176

Thank you for this post and the cartoon. LongTomH Nov 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author MFrohike Nov 2013 #46

A lot of people probably don't know this major policy speech President Kennedy gave... Historic NY Nov 2013 #98

Thanks for that! n/t hootinholler Nov 2013 #105

Thank you, Historic NY! Octafish Dec 2013 #161

Thank you for posting that lake loon Nov 2013 #123

Can you state, in simple, declarative sentences, Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #6

I think it only fair if you go first. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #7

Really? Ok. Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #10

That was simple and I am guessing you prefer simple. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #15

Wait - asking someone to state a belief is shutting down conversation? Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #16

I wasnt referring to you. I clearly said that I was not accusing you. I dont even know rhett o rick Nov 2013 #18

+100 (nt) reACTIONary Nov 2013 #93

Oh no! Things to read! JackRiddler Aug 2015 #178

I don't know. That's why I want to see ALL the government's JFK records opened. Octafish Nov 2013 #17

Oswald was impersonated? Really? hack89 Nov 2013 #42

No one at Duquesne expressed condescension and bullying to those with opposing views. Octafish Nov 2013 #50

If that is what passes as "proof" in the JFK CT industry hack89 Nov 2013 #51

The problem isn't what I know or can can prove. The problem is CIA and secret government. Octafish Nov 2013 #61

Thanks for the links to those journals. So helpful. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2013 #72

You have created the perfect self licking ice cream cone hack89 Nov 2013 #78

10 Points of Agreement on Political Assassinations Octafish Nov 2013 #89

That is some concentrated industrial strength woo there. hack89 Nov 2013 #91

After a quick scan... reACTIONary Nov 2013 #94

It's easy to label, hack89. Nothing there is woo. It's fact. Octafish Nov 2013 #97

Provably false assertions. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #125

Time waster. Octafish Nov 2013 #126

It's all false. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #127

The case against Oswald... Octafish Nov 2013 #128

Nope. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #130

Like I wrote: Time Waster Octafish Nov 2013 #133

You're making assertions. Back them up. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #135

You brought up Dr. Petty. I showed where Dr. Petty is coming from. Octafish Nov 2013 #136

Not really, you haven't. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #139

"10 Points" updated url johnnyreb Nov 2013 #142

"This takes me back to the good old days in the old 911 forum. Truthers had reams of "evidence" too. dotymed Nov 2013 #80

The similarities are striking, aren't they?... SidDithers Nov 2013 #99

That term makes a handy label with which to smear good people. Octafish Nov 2013 #100

Sid dithers, I just read you've never voted for a Democrat.. 2banon Nov 2013 #117

... SidDithers Nov 2013 #121

He's a Canadian. grasswire Nov 2013 #153

You are right in a way. Who it would not draw are authoritarian personalities who are GoneFishin Nov 2013 #101

No, he wasn't being impersonated. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #47

J. Edgar Hoover told LBJ that the Oswald in Mexico City wasn't the same guy in Dallas jail. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #52

That was based on a misidentified photo. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #55

No No No. The FBI Director told POTUS that they had video and voice recordings of the man Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #131

Nope: Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #132

Because he was impersonated in Mexico City. Octafish Nov 2013 #58

No, he wasn't. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #60

Time waster. Octafish Nov 2013 #63

This has nothing to do with that interrogation. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #68

Worst-planned conspiracy ever... YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #149

How do you explain CIA monitoring real and fake Oswalds? Octafish Nov 2013 #151

Oswald was either in Mexico City or meeting with Silvia Odio but NOT BOTH KurtNYC Nov 2013 #95

You "think". Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #115

R#6 & K saluting the inimitable, indefatigable Octafish, gratitude for what he brings here UTUSN Nov 2013 #8

Bartcop has an excellent Reading Room... Octafish Nov 2013 #34

But Bobby named Dulles to the Warren Commission hootinholler Nov 2013 #9

Rumor going back to Gus Russo... Octafish Nov 2013 #38

Actually it's reality going back to Walter Jenkin's 29 November 1963 memo to LBJ Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #49

No where does that say RFK asked Dulles be named to Warren Commission. Octafish Nov 2013 #65

You should read it again. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #67

So, it doesn't say what RFK said. It says what someone else said he said. Octafish Nov 2013 #69

Why would Katzenbach lie? n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #70

To go along with the LBJ plan, which was to keep the USA from going to war with the USSR. Octafish Nov 2013 #81

Why would Katzenbach send this memo to Bill Moyers, before any of the facts were in? Mc Mike Nov 2013 #83

Thanks McMike. That memo is testament that the government was interested in Oswald being framed avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #116

Thanks for the link to the hard copy of the memo, Ava is. Mc Mike Nov 2013 #122

Oh here we go again. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #134

One might think if it were true hootinholler Nov 2013 #88

BFEE Motto: Take the cash and avoid the blame. Octafish Dec 2013 #164

Eisenhower and Smedley Butler Warned us about the MIC and Intelligence agencies. dballance Nov 2013 #12

I've seen it suggested that Eisenhower's policies were being sabotaged starroute Nov 2013 #26

Did Francis Gary Powers ever go on record about that possibility? Octafish Nov 2013 #106

Thanks for that link -- it's good to know where the speculation comes from starroute Nov 2013 #109

That's my summation, for what it's worth.. n/t 2banon Nov 2013 #120

That started in April 1961... Octafish Dec 2013 #163

David Slawson, Warren Commission investigator, tried to warn us and was told to zip it... Octafish Nov 2013 #104

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #13

''The younger Dulles saw no separation between his business and the country's business.'' Octafish Nov 2013 #107

Excellent Stuff... Much Of Which We Suspected... Can't Wait For The Book... WillyT Nov 2013 #114

The JFK assassination was a very important event in all our lives. Thank you for your reports. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #14

I want to second that thanks to the admins BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #37

Dulles assassinated a political ally of President Kennedy three days before JFK's inaugural. Octafish Nov 2013 #113

And thank you for keeping us up to date. Have a great holiday season. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #119

One of the things I am thankful for ... robertpaulsen Nov 2013 #19

I second robertpaulsen's remarks of praise to you Octofish and extend to rhettorick 2banon Nov 2013 #118

after the big 'stinks' caused by assassinations with guns, they discovered small plane crashes certainot Nov 2013 #21

And after that... CanSocDem Nov 2013 #35

Plus Sen. Hale Boggs mc51tc Nov 2013 #45

Also, JFK, Jr., BlueMTexpat Nov 2013 #84

to many preventive 'accidents', and until people quit calling 'tinfoil' every time, it will continue certainot Nov 2013 #145

Mike Connell Octafish Nov 2013 #144

i remember that. there used to be a list of these 'airplane accidents' at unknownnews.net by cheryl certainot Nov 2013 #146

here's something else by her- certainot Nov 2013 #147

As an aside...I hope when he writes the book, he has good proof readers. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #22

Good catch! My bad... Octafish Nov 2013 #24

Ooooops...did not mean to poke at you dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #27

Octafish, have you seen this....? LongTomH Nov 2013 #25

Thank you, LongTomH! Octafish Nov 2013 #110

There is so much essential history to be learned by inquiry into this event. johnnyreb Nov 2013 #29

W. David Slawson is a name few know... Octafish Nov 2013 #112

Thank you Octafish. johnnyreb Nov 2013 #137

There Is Just Too Much Out There Now colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #30

A few points: Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #36

Exactly! micraphone Nov 2013 #40

It couldn't be more obvious BlueStreak Nov 2013 #103

And if you've ever fired a gun, you know ... lake loon Nov 2013 #124

A key procedural thing is that there was no advocate for the truth in these proceedings BlueStreak Nov 2013 #141

Re Jackie's marriage to Aristotle, Mc Mike Nov 2013 #86

There is way too much. OSWALD : No barium or antimony on cheek. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #102

More untruths. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #154

Yes. The Warren Report does support the findings of the Warren Report. GoneFishin Nov 2013 #155

And contradicts your assertions. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #156

You forgot your links to the Warren Report, you know, the source in question. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #157

Okay then, let's presume for just a moment that the conspiracy version is correct. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #158

There was a hole in the windshield, and we don't know about his left brain because it disappeared nt GoneFishin Dec 2013 #168

Crack not a hole. The Midway Rebel Dec 2013 #169

Not a crack. A bullet hole. GoneFishin Dec 2013 #172

There was no hole in the windshield. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2013 #170

For some reason I was thinking about Bobby Baker & LBJ today. dmr Nov 2013 #31

The investigation of Bobby Baker would have involved not only LBJ, but RFK, Hoover and JFK mc51tc Nov 2013 #48

Bobby Kennedy put Dulles on the Warren Commission. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #33

No. RFK did not 'put Allen Dulles' on the Warren Commission. Octafish Nov 2013 #41

Yes, he did. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #43

You make no sense at all. JFK FIRED Dulles. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #54

And then Bobby asked LBJ to put him on the Warren Commission. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #56

Do you understand that sometimes people are forced into positions? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #64

I think you're exaggerating the antipathy between the Kennedys and Dulles. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #66

I don't know why you bother... YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #150

Wait a minute. So, according to you, this "Bobby picked Dulles" crap is based on ... Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #53

They weren't communicating by ouija board, Zen Democrat. n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #57

LBJ himself said it. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #59

You believe him? BootinUp Nov 2013 #62

He also said he didn't believe the Warren Commission report, Mc Mike Nov 2013 #87

LBJ said in 1969, after leaving office, that he always suspected a conspiracy. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #129

I agree with your post #53, and this one, Z.D. Mc Mike Nov 2013 #138

May light be shone in every crook and cranny until the truth, the whole truth triumphs indepat Nov 2013 #39

Thank you, indepat! It is ALL about Justice. Octafish Dec 2013 #159

Confirming imo 'pukes will do whatever is necessary to gain and retain control, a clear and indepat Dec 2013 #160

Thanks so much for the news David Talbot will be publishing Judi Lynn Nov 2013 #44

''Dulles had even less respect for Jack Kennedy's authority than he did for FDR's.'' Octafish Dec 2013 #165

Welcome to the party David … not like this is big news ... rtassi Nov 2013 #75

True. We've talked about it on DU... Octafish Dec 2013 #173

The recent Rolling Stone article by RFK JR., is very enlightening as to his brother's maddiemom Nov 2013 #76

Correction: his uncle's assassination... maddiemom Nov 2013 #77

Robert F. Kennedy saw conspiracy in JFK’s assassination Octafish Dec 2013 #162

TY, Octafish, for your tireless contributions here at DU, and to truth... mother earth Nov 2013 #79

Well said. I agree completely. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #85

Kicked and recommended a shit load. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #82

Thanks, Enthusiast! His book is due in 2015... Octafish Dec 2013 #171

The Oligarchs And Corporations Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Nov 2013 #90

50 years of 'Money trumps peace.' Octafish Dec 2013 #175

Rec. Thanks, Octa. Mc Mike Nov 2013 #92

I completely agree with him. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2013 #96

K&R + some more informative links (Thank you-your DU journal and BFEE series is among the best when bobthedrummer Nov 2013 #108

Thank you, bobthedrummer! Here are the posts on the sad anniversary and the Duquesne Conference... Octafish Nov 2013 #140

The perfect criminal. . . ucrdem Nov 2013 #111

Thanks, ucrdem! Please see Replies # 107 and 165. Octafish Dec 2013 #166

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #143

US News & World Report asked Sabato and 5 other academics: 'Was it a conspiracy?' Octafish Dec 2013 #174

Oh look, let's engage in endless fantastical speculation and fantasy! YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #148

So, apart from insults for his critics, you've nothing to say about Allen Dulles? Octafish Nov 2013 #152

I've heard that before. ananda Dec 2013 #167

His new book on Allen Dulles talks about this Fast Walker 52 Oct 2015 #179