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In reply to the discussion: When ideals collide... porn vs. feminism [View all]Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)99. I heard a funny joke on the radio on this topic...
One guy was upset because his favorite football star was caught using steroids: He said How would you like it if your favorite porn star was caught using Viagra? The other radio personality replied. "I find it disturbing that you think that my favorite porn star is a male!"
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While dodging your original and interesting question, let me just say this...
Democracyinkind
Nov 2013
#2
I am a bit confused by your assertion comparing pornography to rape pornography..
madinmaryland
Nov 2013
#33
I understand what you are trying to say, I just think tying 1st amendment to Laissez-fairism
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#11
i agree. i have never suggest banning, regardless of the strawman always thrown out. education,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#44
wow woman. i am saying the smae in a subthread below. isnt that interesting. i addressed the
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#86
I think you also unintentionally phrased your OP in a very heteronormative way
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#10
At what jobs is it legal to actually hurt another person for pleasure and pay?
Tumbulu
Dec 2013
#177
I find it intriguing that sports injuries are rationalized as "he knew what he was getting into"
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#208
I'm still trying to get past your thread title, frankly. Pornography is an "ideal"? Where? Pompeii?
WinkyDink
Nov 2013
#15
Great post. Whatever the problems at hand, state tyranny of any kind is not the answer.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#93
"I don't find a broad overlap between those who constantly talk about the harm of porn
xulamaude
Nov 2013
#130
i think HUMAN BEING trumps a piece of paper. and we are talking world wide, not just
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#32
funny. like that compares to abuse rape enslavement coercion death. and again, as i said in post
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#57
post 32 is the reality. fact. we are comparing the constitution to the abuse, coercion, rape,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#62
cause, i have only explained it for about mmmm, years. and because we have had a week of many
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#69
And yet we are still no closer to establishing cause and effect relationships to those who consent
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#72
see. cause this is not what i am going to do. i am not going thru this shit again.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#83
Your posts are a perfect example of the strawman argument mentioned in the OP.
Threedifferentones
Nov 2013
#152
The argument might well be that when fictional representations of rape and abuse
el_bryanto
Nov 2013
#157
About as far away as a person who enjoys watching horror movies enjoys actually murdering people.
EOTE
Dec 2013
#215
You didn't suggest that people who would watch such things would be likely to do such things?
EOTE
Dec 2013
#218
here is the point where so many fail. i ercognize the very real deal of it all, and can
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#82
When you can't tell one from the other. When the one is *presented* as the other.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#94
I can see what you're saying. But I still think that, with the amount of *real* rape/torture footage
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#101
No they should not, and we as liberals do work to continually improve worker safety matters
Tumbulu
Dec 2013
#179
Rape Porn is a Narrowly Defined Subset of Porn. Rape is Illegal. Rape is Violence.
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#36
so then, is it fair to say that, you are for deregulation of both industries?
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#43
Do you think Rape Porn depicts an act of sex (a sex scene) or an act of violence?
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#48
I don't understand the multiple guns fear thing. I only have two arms.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#170
There's also those of us concerned with work place conditions and remuneration etc.
KittyWampus
Nov 2013
#47
Do you think a person can give legal consent while under the influence of drugs or alcohol?
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#49
Or kidnapped and forced. Or dominated and controlled. We can't make it simple cause it is not.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#51
But on the other hand, being anti-free speech isn't generally seen as progressive. With good reason.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#96
Pornography, much like retail shopping, is not problematic in and of itself...
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2013
#64
There are things we shouldn't do or are not allowed to do no matter how much money is offered.
Evoman
Nov 2013
#76
shouldnt i be able to decide to work for Walmart for ten cents an hour? Its my body
Evoman
Nov 2013
#122
If porn is considered an "ideal," civilization really has scraped rock bottom. n/t
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#92
I think you're probably right. One could argue that it's a matter of raising greater awareness -
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#124
Seems like more than a few, and only a few are calling bullshit when they do
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#150
I agree completely with the Friedan quote. And for the most part I'm strongly anti-censorship.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#156
Oh, absolutely. I certainly don't subscribe to any "porn causes rape" theory - other than
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#161
I find it oddly ironic that your extremely non-responsive response to my response
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#145
I personally don't have a desire to attack "rape porn" for the following reasons:
Dash87
Nov 2013
#129
Progressive ideals? I'm not sure that's the point in a lot of this...
TreasonousBastard
Dec 2013
#172
As BainsBane said upthread, the intellectual/philisophical justification for porn...
YoungDemCA
Dec 2013
#178
So the ONLY things that are valuable are those which benefit society? What a crock.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2013
#233
I do not think that someone consenting to do something that hurts or maims them
Tumbulu
Dec 2013
#203