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lame54

(35,130 posts)
32. it's all good
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:47 AM
Nov 2013
The mental gymnastics of some is nothing short of amazing. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #1
It is the same thing they used to do to gay men Warpy Nov 2013 #54
then you disagree that watching massive rape porn, getting off on it will stop rapist from raping? seabeyond Nov 2013 #72
Indeed. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #57
Wasn't that ''Clockwork Orange'' therapy? Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #2
then what would happen instead of adding the painful nausea, one experienced pleasure instead? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #3
Aversion therapy rrneck Nov 2013 #20
and when rewarded with pleasure watching violent rape/torture porn? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #22
It wouldn't work any better than aversion therapy. rrneck Nov 2013 #23
so, you do not agree that rape/torture porn stops rapist from raping? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #25
I don't understand your question. rrneck Nov 2013 #27
i am not asserting this. men on the rape/torture thread are stating this. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #29
Ah. Images don't stop or start anybody from doing anything. rrneck Nov 2013 #34
hm. so, fox news does not effect the watcher? it should be fine to feed our kids whatever media seabeyond Nov 2013 #35
Not the way most people think it does. rrneck Nov 2013 #38
true. what you and i see on fox will not be the same as another. so... rape/torture video. seabeyond Nov 2013 #39
There are police officers whose job it is rrneck Nov 2013 #40
i do not know that for a fact. i wonder seeing all that, how it does effect them. and effect them seabeyond Nov 2013 #41
I'm not aware of anything in Christian theology that rrneck Nov 2013 #42
totally left field.... lol. seabeyond Nov 2013 #43
Your OP is about immersion in information to control behaivor. rrneck Nov 2013 #44
have you read the old testament? but... i am not getting all into this cause it really goes way out seabeyond Nov 2013 #45
That's understandable. rrneck Nov 2013 #48
wtf? if you fail in exchange, do you just create stories? lol. really. wtf??? seabeyond Nov 2013 #50
Working from the premis of your OP. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #56
no seabeyond Nov 2013 #58
So rrneck Nov 2013 #59
Read "Angry White Men" by Michael Kimmel ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #89
I agree with your one point Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #90
I haven't read the book rrneck Nov 2013 #238
The wooooooosh you hear chervilant Nov 2013 #222
Nope. rrneck Nov 2013 #235
like Fox news? BainsBane Nov 2013 #161
I asked you for links to those studies rrneck Nov 2013 #231
Studies show a causal link between watching violent porn and committing rape BainsBane Nov 2013 #103
I asked you for links to those studies earlier. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #230
But not for violent video games and violence? oldhippie Nov 2013 #243
I don't know BainsBane Nov 2013 #244
And in the end of the book/movie he id cured of the Ludivico Technique Nika Nov 2013 #36
The film was a masterpiece. Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #220
That was the first thing I thought of... 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #65
major difference. in clock whatever there is a punishment. what men are suggesting is the reward seabeyond Nov 2013 #71
Any kind of Violence is an "Automatic Buzz Kill below the Belt" for me FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #4
me, either. thanks freakin. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #5
So what? Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #6
defend, defend, at all cost, .... defend. that has nothing to do with this OP seabeyond Nov 2013 #7
I think it just makes you uncomfortable because DJ was a bit too honest... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #9
firstly, i think dj is a he. secondly, again, your post has nothing to do with OP seabeyond Nov 2013 #10
Peachy for you... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #11
and i was responding to what is in your posts. seabeyond Nov 2013 #14
I didn't tell anyone what to do - but I think they are Fucked Up in the Head FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #13
That damn Shakespeare - what does he know lame54 Nov 2013 #8
ha. talk about the free speech argument. cause the poster says no thanks, he is the one addressed seabeyond Nov 2013 #12
I wasn't answering the OP... lame54 Nov 2013 #15
obviously you were not. so? seabeyond Nov 2013 #16
???... lame54 Nov 2013 #17
" I wasn't answering the OP...", "obviously you were not." so? seabeyond Nov 2013 #18
I have no clue what you are getting at... lame54 Nov 2013 #19
my OP is lame? men in the rape porn thread are saying that watching rape in porn video stops rapist seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
I never said the OP was lame... lame54 Nov 2013 #24
curious what you mean by this post. seabeyond Nov 2013 #26
i should have said my reply was indented... lame54 Nov 2013 #30
clarification is our friend. thank you. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #31
it's all good lame54 Nov 2013 #32
No.. Nobody is saying that at all... opiate69 Nov 2013 #76
It does seem like a fallacy to believe that 'pressure release' or 'blowing off steam' activities Mc Mike Nov 2013 #28
I've responded to a thread by BainsBane JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #33
i read your post. and i agree with what you are saying here. i doubt that they would seabeyond Nov 2013 #37
Therapy? LIKE HELL! It will only reward and enflame them. Good grief, IrishAyes Nov 2013 #46
oh oh... good metaphor. but, we are talking porn, and that is "special". seabeyond Nov 2013 #47
The only thing special about porn is negative - it objectifies women and degrades men too IrishAyes Nov 2013 #55
so many times... seabeyond Nov 2013 #61
While on the other hand artists such as Maxfield Parrish celebrate the beauty of women. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #62
i do not know much about the art world. i walk thru and enjoy the ones that feel good to me, seabeyond Nov 2013 #63
Absolutely. I'd be indebted. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #66
i will look for it in the morning. we had a really good thread on it. seabeyond Nov 2013 #67
Gerald McRaney?? opiate69 Nov 2013 #64
Strange but not the first time I have seen it maddezmom Nov 2013 #68
Oh, come now. That was a low blow. I quoted him because he had a funny way of expressing an idea. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #70
Color me nutty, but... opiate69 Nov 2013 #73
So you've kept closer watch on McRaney than I have; is that any reason for my quoting him once when IrishAyes Nov 2013 #75
I met that guy--spent an evening with him. MADem Nov 2013 #190
Well, unfortunate as the information is, I needed and am glad to have it. Thank you. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #223
I think Kelsey Grammar's politics are in the "right wing nitwit" range. MADem Nov 2013 #246
I enjoy a good "Frasier" marathon as much as anybody... opiate69 Nov 2013 #249
most people i know are republican. when father talks rw garbage, ... meh. when discussing business seabeyond Nov 2013 #253
Sweet jesus.. try to focus on what I actually say, not what you somehow think I say... opiate69 Nov 2013 #259
I know of no correlation between voting behavior BainsBane Nov 2013 #245
Well, I imagine it's a good thing that I never said anything even remotely like that, then. opiate69 Nov 2013 #247
Wasn't Rainey's point about the negative effects of porn? BainsBane Nov 2013 #260
Installment 2.0 of "words strung together that make no damned sense"... opiate69 Nov 2013 #261
Once again, I apologize for thinking your comment had anything BainsBane Nov 2013 #262
But there does tend to be a correlation between voting behavior and opiate69 Nov 2013 #264
Being obsessed with rape porn is probably not good for one's mental health. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #49
agreed. seabeyond Nov 2013 #52
It's starts out with fantasy ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #51
rape is down. lots and lots of men are watching rape porn. ergo, watching rape porn seabeyond Nov 2013 #53
Somebody was saying that earlier ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #78
ya. they have been saying it for years. and years. and now we have one in this thread saying huh? seabeyond Nov 2013 #79
It was in another thread ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #84
Watching rape porn Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #60
"but it also doesn't encourages someone to do rape." - Have any evidence for that claim? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #69
I have been seeing rape porn with other types of porn since last 6 years Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #77
Correlation does not equal causation davidn3600 Nov 2013 #88
I would speculate it would be just the opposite, rape porn Rex Nov 2013 #74
i dunno rex. i feel like you. and reading a poster cheer his watching it for 6 yrs... seabeyond Nov 2013 #80
Ewww indeed. Rex Nov 2013 #81
Thank you for judging Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #85
hm. you put your business on a discussion board, boast about your love of rape porn and then are seabeyond Nov 2013 #86
hmm Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #87
I wouldn't worry too much about it. polly7 Nov 2013 #92
Thank you for the support Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #95
ya. your reply to rex does sound as if you are offended. meh... seabeyond Nov 2013 #94
You Assume A Lot...meh.... Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #96
i read your words. even the ones to polly. you put out offended then say no. whatever. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #98
If i get offended...i would specifically write it..n/t Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #105
Seems a rather defensive one, never mentioned any names Rex Nov 2013 #226
They endorse rape - wow - here comes another assumption...n/t Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #227
Go cry to the admins about it, like I said I don't care if it rubs you the wrong way. Rex Nov 2013 #228
Why would i complain to admin Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #233
When did I mention your name? Oh wait, I didn't. Feeling guilty much? Rex Nov 2013 #225
Even i did not mention anyone in my original post Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #229
Nice try but I never mentioned you by name you injected yourself into this Rex Nov 2013 #232
Again there is a confusion Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #234
I'm not confused at all, you seem to be the one confusing rape and rape porn here Rex Nov 2013 #241
hmm Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #242
lol Adam051188 Nov 2013 #82
actually, there have been a number of threads on exactly what is happening in the UK about rape porn seabeyond Nov 2013 #83
good luck Adam051188 Nov 2013 #91
When women fantasize about rape, do they then want to actually be raped? Bonobo Nov 2013 #93
when a woman fantasizes about rape, it is NOT rape at all. its totally consensual role play exactly seabeyond Nov 2013 #97
Wow, that is absolutely bizarre. Bonobo Nov 2013 #99
really bonobo? really???? it is that fuckin hard for you to put it together. fuck.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #100
Yes, I honestly do not get it. Bonobo Nov 2013 #101
a womans rape fantasy is NOT a RAPE fantasy. got it. you gotta get this point. you cant seabeyond Nov 2013 #106
I completely get that. Bonobo Nov 2013 #107
a woman is fatasizing what is being DONE to her. a man is fantasizing what he is DOING to a woman. seabeyond Nov 2013 #108
Wow. polly7 Nov 2013 #110
wow seabeyond Nov 2013 #111
In other words, you can't answer. They were perfectly fine questions. polly7 Nov 2013 #113
no, they were not perfectly fine, .... a waste of time. seabeyond Nov 2013 #115
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here is more of your brilliance. amazing. simply amazing. seabeyond Nov 2013 #119
err ...... polly7 Nov 2013 #121
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Like a post. polly7 Nov 2013 #129
again... just toally friggin amazing. are we done yet? seabeyond Nov 2013 #132
Sorry, what's amazing about wanting personal boundaries respected? nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #135
we arent done? no? more? i am done seabeyond Nov 2013 #137
toodles .... nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #138
This is the second thread in as many days when you've been called out for your anti-woman msanthrope Nov 2013 #258
She did the same condescending crap to me in this thread... msanthrope Nov 2013 #254
I see the difference because it is different. Bonobo Nov 2013 #112
you do not get it. i do not know if it is cause you cant or you do not want to. but... i am done. seabeyond Nov 2013 #114
Sorry, that is exactly what I am feeling about you. Bonobo Nov 2013 #116
and your purposeful obtuseness is irritating. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #117
No, it is called consistency. Bonobo Nov 2013 #120
you wont acknowledge, though you readily admit to recognizing, the very basic BIOLOGICAL difference seabeyond Nov 2013 #122
I acknowledge that men have more physical strength usually. Bonobo Nov 2013 #124
that was not the point. i spelled it out repeatedly. seabeyond Nov 2013 #127
Everyone understands, rape fantasies are okay for women, but by your decree banned for men. Kurska Nov 2013 #130
no. dont pat yourself on the back. you do not get it. you are not even close. seabeyond Nov 2013 #134
Well, could you try something besides repeatedly saying x is not x if done by person y. Kurska Nov 2013 #144
At the biological level, that difference exists. Bonobo Nov 2013 #133
oh geeeez bonobo. i am done. you are so far out there. you friend is. this is absurd. night. seabeyond Nov 2013 #136
I tried very hard to reach you halfway. Bonobo Nov 2013 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #240
thank you. simple. i repeat, repeat, i could not get why it was not simple. yes. exactly. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #250
the difference is a safe word FatBuddy Nov 2013 #248
not even the safe word. it is the simple knowledge that is all it is, which makes it nothing. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #256
what you wrote makes no sense FatBuddy Nov 2013 #257
"a womans rape fantasy is NOT a RAPE fantasy. " Kurska Nov 2013 #128
and are you seriously going to argue that a woman who has total control over what is happening in seabeyond Nov 2013 #131
What on earth are you talking about? Kurska Nov 2013 #139
this is what you and bonobo do not get. even in fuckin FANTASY the woman is not experiencing rape. seabeyond Nov 2013 #141
One of your statements was correct. Bonobo Nov 2013 #145
hmmm Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #148
tell me how a woman making all the choices without any fear is anywhere close to what rape is? seabeyond Nov 2013 #154
It's not rape. It's fantasizing about being raped. Bonobo Nov 2013 #156
the person does not want to have sex. does not want sex with that person. is forced. seabeyond Nov 2013 #158
3 points Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #159
oh wow would be hot for someone to forcibly take me... she gave her permission. she is not forcibly seabeyond Nov 2013 #160
Here's another thing that is NOTHING like rape. Bonobo Nov 2013 #162
It is. polly7 Nov 2013 #163
polly, you finally made my point. yes. it is insulting to suggesting role playing is anything at seabeyond Nov 2013 #166
Well you've got that completely backwards. polly7 Nov 2013 #168
no polly. you got it wrong. in so doing, you made my point for me on this thread. funny you. no. seabeyond Nov 2013 #174
Do you even read what you write? polly7 Nov 2013 #177
here you go. seabeyond Nov 2013 #180
Unreal. polly7 Nov 2013 #183
the unreal part is your inability to include the part of the sex slaves being forced ... find a seabeyond Nov 2013 #188
Actually. Polly made MY point. Bonobo Nov 2013 #169
Exactly. nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #171
omFg. you two. you are so fuckin funny. you tried to be all on his side. i know you did. seabeyond Nov 2013 #176
Nah ....... I don't try to be on anyone's 'side'. polly7 Nov 2013 #179
" I don't try to be on anyone's 'side'.' did you say this straight faced, or do you have a huge, seabeyond Nov 2013 #181
Some of us are able to think and function independently. Is that a novel concept for you? nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #185
you wouldnt be one. seabeyond Nov 2013 #189
lmao! Oh yes I would be. Why so insulting? nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #191
Some of us are able to think and function independently. Is that a novel concept for you? seabeyond Nov 2013 #194
In reply to this: polly7 Nov 2013 #196
you insult me, which i do not give a shit about. i said the same to you and you whine.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #198
Maybe look up at what started it. polly7 Nov 2013 #199
yes polly. each and every post for over two years. abso fuckin lutely. consistently. always. seabeyond Nov 2013 #202
Persecution complex? polly7 Nov 2013 #205
lordy woman... let it go. seabeyond Nov 2013 #209
It's always polite to reply, I try to be nice that way. nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #210
no. the confusing of rape is suggesting a "rape" fantasy has anything to do with rape. seabeyond Nov 2013 #175
all it is is sex with defined role playing. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #164
Well I was talking about fantasies, but it still brings me to the main question I had for you. Bonobo Nov 2013 #167
well geeez, it only took two fuckin hours and how many fuckin posts to get you to where you seabeyond Nov 2013 #170
Wh-wh-wh-whaaaaaaat!? Bonobo Nov 2013 #173
this... i can agree with you one. i am feeling it a bit myself. night bonobo seabeyond Nov 2013 #178
Oh, I see. Kurska Nov 2013 #150
the person did not want it and was forced? well. that would be.... hm, rape. seabeyond Nov 2013 #155
he/she is saying that Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #172
woman and man agree to pretend to allow man to force her to have sex. lmfao. seabeyond Nov 2013 #184
That's what i am saying Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #187
we agree. there is nothing about rape in that supposed "rape" fantasy but sex with a lot of seabeyond Nov 2013 #193
There is a confusion Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #195
here is the thing. rape is serious shit. to suggest women are into rape is serious shit. seabeyond Nov 2013 #200
I never suggested that women are into real rape Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #203
The scenes that acquaintances have described for me, yes… opiate69 Nov 2013 #263
absurd FatBuddy Nov 2013 #251
Seabeyond, this is where you literally fall of the rails... Bonobo Nov 2013 #140
no. you do NOT get it. no. seabeyond Nov 2013 #143
She has all the control/he has all the control Bonobo Nov 2013 #146
That excuse is pure invention BainsBane Nov 2013 #102
Link to the studies. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #104
Your point is not valid Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #123
You're thinking too small, Ted Bundy drank water Kurska Nov 2013 #126
false BainsBane Nov 2013 #157
Yes, this is what some of the most ridiculous Tumbulu Nov 2013 #109
Agree this along with the claims like Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #151
so you think watching women being brutalized for pleasure has no effect? Tumbulu Nov 2013 #153
why do you always say women Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #165
I have no idea about you and what you do Tumbulu Nov 2013 #236
I am also against Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #239
It doesn't turn peaceful men who like women into rapists BainsBane Nov 2013 #182
Thank you, beautiful reply! nt Tumbulu Nov 2013 #237
According to my interpretation of my communication classes, ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #147
+1000 Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #149
I think that is true. Bonobo Nov 2013 #152
All you have are misleading claims and wild conjecture. last1standing Nov 2013 #186
no. what i have are men that say, here on du, that decrease of rape and increase of violent porn seabeyond Nov 2013 #197
I agree with your point Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #201
Every non-biased, scientific study has shown a correlation between viewing porn and aggression. last1standing Nov 2013 #206
ahhhh, here we go. puke. so, you would be for feeding this kid his rape porn seabeyond Nov 2013 #211
Since you're vomiting up comments I never made you might as well vomit up everything else. last1standing Nov 2013 #216
Oh really? ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #218
If you're going to link to that bs by John Briere save your energy. last1standing Nov 2013 #221
i have all kinds of thoughts on that. i have all kinds of ideas why our culture has the rapes seabeyond Nov 2013 #207
different issues Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #217
how about this. seabeyond Nov 2013 #208
why do you assume the my reaction was titillated and getting giggle? Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #213
a right to consider it? seabeyond Nov 2013 #214
yes..ofcourse you have a right to consider it... Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #219
the problem, joel.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #252
No, but I see how very judgmental, misleading and anti-feminist your post is. last1standing Nov 2013 #204
you are one of them. what are you going on about... you. whatever. i mean that sincerely. seabeyond Nov 2013 #212
LOL! There's your modus operandi. Can't argue fact, just call someone a rape apologist. last1standing Nov 2013 #215
hmmm Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #192
Way to impugn the motives of most of DU there! backscatter712 Nov 2013 #224
Yeah, no shit AgingAmerican Nov 2013 #255
Sounds like Clockwork Orange n/t BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #265
wtf? zappaman Nov 2013 #266
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