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seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
54. "Why should responsible people have to pay for those who are not?"
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:24 PM
Nov 2013

There is something about that string of words that doesn't feel quite right.

I think one of the problems is that even with the new policies that are offered... peace13 Nov 2013 #1
^ This ^ Myrina Nov 2013 #5
I see you point, but what we have is a great first step. Pinkflamingo Nov 2013 #9
Note to self. Low income folks are on Medicaid. peace13 Nov 2013 #46
Here are some real Ohio numbers. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #52
Not aware of cost sharing subsidies for deductible and out of pocket. Sounds interesting. peace13 Nov 2013 #60
That is part of the ACA. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #63
Thanks so much for the link! peace13 Nov 2013 #67
One thing you might look into Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #88
Thanks for that! n/t peace13 Nov 2013 #90
My husband and I are big advocates of seeing our PCP first and getting a referral from them if CTyankee Nov 2013 #101
Agree completely--health costs are out of control AndyA Nov 2013 #26
well said. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #33
Those are interesting suggestions. JNinWB Nov 2013 #2
Pay us or die!!! PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #3
Just those who are telling us it is wrong to require everyone to get covered. liberal N proud Nov 2013 #16
Pay for something you are not going to use? HockeyMom Nov 2013 #4
"maybe I need to join a religion that doesn't believe in medical treatment" sounds like you already dionysus Nov 2013 #17
The me's of the country HockeyMom Nov 2013 #51
Keep fighting zipplewrath Nov 2013 #6
I agree, we need to continue to push for universal coverage liberal N proud Nov 2013 #18
Exactly! historylovr Nov 2013 #74
Wow! 'If you do not WANT insurance', that is what Right Wingers have always sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #7
+1 Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #8
I am saying to those who can afford but choose not to liberal N proud Nov 2013 #15
Well, I am against that also. I would never deny life saving treatment to ANYONE. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #29
Co-worker and I just discussing this Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #19
Thank you! ...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #36
+A Million. historylovr Nov 2013 #75
Religious people who don't hold with doctors fadedrose Nov 2013 #10
It's not that we don't want it, Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #11
Rec PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #20
I'd like to have them shadow me for a day. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #21
Especially now that SNAP Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #25
There are no premiums with expanded Medicare you know lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #28
Yes. Yes I do. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #84
I was just throwing out a suggestion. Some states refused to even expand that. lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #85
It's not even desperately poor it's working class. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #39
. adirondacker Nov 2013 #12
Indeed, responsible people have a good job and plenty of disposable income Fumesucker Nov 2013 #13
You said it right there Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #22
The exemption is from the “individual shared responsibility payment” to qualify Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #14
Great fix for the problems the people have. Savannahmann Nov 2013 #23
Obviously you have not read the entire post or replies. liberal N proud Nov 2013 #24
Borderline, bullshit, it is against the rules. lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #30
I am generous liberal N proud Nov 2013 #32
Very lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #34
Rules? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #48
except PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #35
The real purpose of the idea is to shut down those who are bemoaning the requirement liberal N proud Nov 2013 #38
I do not know PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #41
The purpose of the requirement Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #43
The actual language of the law Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #91
So there is no enforcing it? Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #92
No liens or criminal penalties can be imposed. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #94
I removed the erroneous paragraph Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #95
Yay!! Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #98
I found this reference that explains it well. thanks for your help.. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #93
The last sentence (update) is the second part of the code which I quoted earlier. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #96
Progressives opposed Mandated insurance long before this. So did Obama btw. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #79
If they do not have insurance by march 2014, and they go into a hospital, it will be like it was lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #27
They will also have to pay a penalty on their taxes...nt Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #44
Eh, I'll have insurance, I still won't have care, outside of a yearly checkup... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #31
I'm already in that boat. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #42
Mine will be employer provided, since my employer provides it, I get no subsidies... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #47
We completed our enrollment period here Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #62
The plan that was available last year sucked, I decided not to enroll.. Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #66
LOL cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #53
Considering that, in the past year, my grandmother and mother... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #55
If you ain't got nothin, you got nothin to lose. cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #59
Some people don't own anything so they don't haave anything to sell or for anyone to take. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #78
I appreciate your position.... cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #102
You will have to get the federal law requiring ER rooms give treatment, insurance or not, changed. former9thward Nov 2013 #37
I think once you tell people they have to make that choice, they will opt for coverage liberal N proud Nov 2013 #40
Can I opt out of being defended? former9thward Nov 2013 #45
That's what we have the Second Amendment for in the first place Fumesucker Nov 2013 #49
Exactly. former9thward Nov 2013 #65
The Final Solution, eh? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #50
"Why should responsible people have to pay for those who are not?" seveneyes Nov 2013 #54
And you don't think you are now? liberal N proud Nov 2013 #56
As a responsible person, I have auto insurance, property insurance, liability insurance. JNinWB Nov 2013 #57
Right? bunnies Nov 2013 #81
Are you going to read the affidavits while they die before your eyes? rug Nov 2013 #58
I'm reminded of this classic cartoon... adirondacker Nov 2013 #68
Touche. rug Nov 2013 #69
Extremely poor idea. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #61
Hahaha, no kidding. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #87
Why, as Americans, can't we have what virtually every other civilized nation in the world has? Romulox Nov 2013 #64
I'd like to add to this... Phentex Nov 2013 #71
Because no Republicans would vote for the ACA Fumesucker Nov 2013 #83
Because the insurance is not affordable. Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #70
You've been reading the Heritage Foundation document that started this train wreck solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #72
I get your point but the last question is not liberal... Phentex Nov 2013 #73
Neo-liberal and proud. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #76
Solution for homelessness? Buy a house!!!! ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #77
Got elected zipplewrath Nov 2013 #80
Can't do it. bravenak Nov 2013 #82
I haven't a clue what Republicans are even needed for, we've big tented ourselves TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #86
Same for relatives: Do NOT come running to me for cancer operation/treatment donation if you.../.. ErikJ Nov 2013 #89
I don't think that's necessary. When they file their IRS forms, they will 'pay' at that time. Sunlei Nov 2013 #97
The solution is what it always has been jrandom421 Nov 2013 #99
I am my brothers keeper. I have no problem with my money Autumn Nov 2013 #100
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