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whathehell

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724. Lol, that's nice, but since you decline to speak of them,
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:14 PM
Nov 2013

supposedly "out of courtesy" to others, maybe you could stop talking about what you claim to know about

women's fantasies here, on that same basis. i.e. some women here, myself included, are "uncomfortable hearing about them"

Get my drift?

I wonder if this really solves the core problem or just band-aids it ... what drives RKP5637 Nov 2013 #1
It drives consensual sexual activity underground. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #60
Are you seriously conflating rape simulation with gay sex? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #266
Are you seriously saying that adults JackRiddler Nov 2013 #278
Did I say rape pornography should be illegal? No. Try responding to what I actually wrote next time. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #286
I absolutely comprende, but you're missing the point... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #291
No, the absurdity is inherent in the conflation of rape pornography, which justifies sexual violence Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #298
Okay, enough. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #335
Please explain your assertion. chervilant Nov 2013 #395
Consensual rape? n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #613
it band aids it gopiscrap Nov 2013 #474
is 'A Clockwork Orange' going to be banned? Garion_55 Nov 2013 #2
I guess owning Deliverance will be a felony... NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #3
Smacks? This is censorship... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #287
I agree. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #503
Nothing more disgusting? How about raping a woman Tumbulu Nov 2013 #528
once again there is the words consendual, simulated and depiction loli phabay Nov 2013 #617
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #768
Tougher question: "I Spit On Your Grave" AngryAmish Nov 2013 #6
That was my thought. What about movies that depict murder? Is it a crime to depict it in a movie? lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #210
In a Snuff film ? YES, as it should be. orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #465
You know I am talking about Hollywood movies with actors, not actual murders lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #489
And You know we're not talking about ' Freedom of Speech ' or censorship of Art, orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #606
Perhaps I missed it, but I did not see in the article anything to distinguish a BBC lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #649
The theme and plot ? orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #776
Clockwork Orange is one of my favorite movies ever. NealK Nov 2013 #239
A Classic I've owned forever . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #464
A (relatively) modern masterpiece of a film. Bill Lermer Nov 2013 #500
I could never make it through that movie, but I don't think it should be banned just because I found liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #563
" Some viewers " ? Straw Dogs is also a great movie... orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #810
Part of the plot, not the entire content of the movie . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #462
This is a slippery slope...what about BDSM or other? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #4
Exactly. This is censorship and repression of free speech. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #10
BDSM porn is almost required to be simulated rape. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #62
true, its submission and domination and about power. loli phabay Nov 2013 #68
Next thing they'll be actually prosecuting rapists BainsBane Nov 2013 #89
you do know rape and consensual rape depictions are two different things loli phabay Nov 2013 #98
Look up rape in the dictionary BainsBane Nov 2013 #100
Yes, but this proposed law even covers "simulated" rape.. Upton Nov 2013 #106
look up consensual and depiction and simulated while you are there loli phabay Nov 2013 #107
Are we talking about rape porn or not? BainsBane Nov 2013 #111
See #35 Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #116
See what I've written BainsBane Nov 2013 #119
Yes I've have. You have my sympathy. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #122
So in other words BainsBane Nov 2013 #129
Not at all, you cant make differentiation between real and simulated so Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #133
its word blindness loli phabay Nov 2013 #135
True that, and someone doesn't get out much Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #136
I recall quite distinctly BainsBane Nov 2013 #387
Likely because I was in a serious car accident Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #437
No, it had to do with your perceptions of your ability BainsBane Nov 2013 #439
Awww so sweet, really grasping to try and put a knife to me Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #444
You're welcome BainsBane Nov 2013 #450
Zing! Its the kind of biting commentary one can expect from you Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #451
Consider yourself flattered BainsBane Nov 2013 #461
Oooh another Zinger! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #466
No, it wasn't an attempted zinger BainsBane Nov 2013 #468
Snicker, I understand quite well what it is. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #469
Would that be like truth blindness? BainsBane Nov 2013 #186
pot, kettle and all that. loli phabay Nov 2013 #247
right BainsBane Nov 2013 #250
Are you into self-diagnosis now? EOTE Nov 2013 #727
You're not even bothering to read what I write BainsBane Nov 2013 #731
The problem is that I AM reading what you write. EOTE Nov 2013 #732
Obviously not BainsBane Nov 2013 #740
Oh really, you didn't express gems like this one dozens of times? EOTE Nov 2013 #766
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #769
Here is the point BainsBane Nov 2013 #140
Wow...seriously, you believe that? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #142
It is a fact BainsBane Nov 2013 #160
Priceless, you can't even comprehend there are two separate elements we are talking about... Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #161
You really took time to read those links BainsBane Nov 2013 #162
Again, you simply don't or won't get what is being said. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #163
Your post has nothing to do with the subject BainsBane Nov 2013 #166
You still don't bother to address your own words. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #168
Which words? BainsBane Nov 2013 #170
I leave the "knack of posting a lot while saying nothing" to you. Youve said nothing as usual that Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #175
As I said, there is a body of academic literature BainsBane Nov 2013 #179
Wow...seriously, you believe that? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #144
So this must be simulated too I guess: The headlines are shouting RAPE IN DECLINE Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #149
All violent crimes are in decline BainsBane Nov 2013 #164
hahah..."misogynist porn" Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #165
Are you suggesting that rape and mutilation are not misogynist? BainsBane Nov 2013 #174
I am suggesting you are a master of placing things out of context. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #176
Out of context? BainsBane Nov 2013 #180
Maybe if you bothered to read your own posts for once... Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #185
I know what I've written BainsBane Nov 2013 #190
Obviously you dont understand what you've written very well. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #191
So Obe wan, tell me what have I written? BainsBane Nov 2013 #193
I've said it repeatedly. If you dont get it. Thats on you Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #195
LOL BainsBane Nov 2013 #197
I accept your surrender. BainsBane Nov 2013 #199
Woot !! Youve such a brilliant, searing intellect! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #209
Not briliant BainsBane Nov 2013 #218
I did? Gosh thanks for telling me so. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #220
It's unfortunate that you couldn't be bothered BainsBane Nov 2013 #225
Sounds like your Modus Operandi actually. Besides what does it matter, you won remember? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #227
Actually, winning doesn't much matter to me BainsBane Nov 2013 #238
Correction, nothing much to say to you. I mean seriously you even didnt get the initial argument Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #244
Wow, you've made an internet poster give up on attempting to educate you in the slightest out of EOTE Nov 2013 #729
Look in the mirror BainsBane Nov 2013 #733
Uhhh, you still manage to entirely miss the point. EOTE Nov 2013 #734
I ask one very simple question and you now know how I think? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #206
Lets see who jumped in....? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #212
That would be me. Why? Aren't I allowed to do that? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #213
Gosh you didn't bother to read my response posts earlier did you. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #216
You mean you went back and edited a post and answered the question? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #221
Snicker, No the post is there. again if you resort to simply saying untruths thats your issue Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #223
Y'know, the civil and normal reaction would have been to just answer someone's question... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #230
You obviously are blind to the tone of your own posts. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #234
Lord, you're rude to everyone with a YY chromosone BainsBane Nov 2013 #498
Wow what an undercurrent of issues....! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #504
Evidently he feels compelled to avoid the subject matter at all costs BainsBane Nov 2013 #226
Good. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #182
Apparently it's the business of the government of the UK BainsBane Nov 2013 #183
"Rape porn increases rape." Do you have a citation for that? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #274
yes BainsBane Nov 2013 #279
What cultural and demographic influences do you credit for the 80% drop in rape victimization? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #509
I read that 1 in 5 women are raped in the country. That is still a very high number. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #510
So, you are a rape porn defender ? Tumbulu Nov 2013 #531
I assume this post is being sarcastic? EOTE Nov 2013 #730
I've got a question for you. Do you think clips of actual rapes should be banned? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #181
So a movie like "Last House of the Left" where you have rape scenes and such, gets defined by you Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #184
Do you want to answer the question you got asked? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #187
I have to wonder why you won't answer my question... Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #188
Because you didn't answer the simple question I asked you... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #189
I'm not interested in anything but hearing an answer to the very self-same question you present Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #194
Well, seeing yr refusing to say whether you want real rape clips banned or not... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #196
Your one to talk about control-freaky behavior. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #204
I only talk about it when it's warranted... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #233
Dear god finally. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #236
So is everyone too stupid for you to respond substantively to? BainsBane Nov 2013 #242
Gosh an attempt to make this some sort of misogynistic issue. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #246
Obviously Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #610
Do you think clips of actual murders should be banned? EOTE Nov 2013 #198
Snuff porn is already illegal BainsBane Nov 2013 #200
Of course it is. So is, I believe, video depicting actual rapes. EOTE Nov 2013 #207
Actually no BainsBane Nov 2013 #214
This is really very simple. EOTE Nov 2013 #229
You aren't dealing with common sense BainsBane Nov 2013 #235
Actually, people DO dispute those charges. EOTE Nov 2013 #243
Yes, people are falsely prosecuted BainsBane Nov 2013 #248
if it makes you happy you can see the same happening to men loli phabay Nov 2013 #249
I don't like BainsBane Nov 2013 #251
Apparently not so in the UK when it comes to clips of real rapes... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #217
So, make it illegal to possess video of REAL rapes. EOTE Nov 2013 #222
What is it with people who ignore questions and come up with bizarre questions? n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #201
I'm just attempting to decipher your very bizarre question. EOTE Nov 2013 #205
It was very simple. Only one person refuses to say that they think real rape should be banned... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #211
Sure, governments do such a great job with regard to censorship. EOTE Nov 2013 #219
But the Scots have the same law and it appears to be working fine.. Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #224
Just because some law somewhere isn't currently being abused, that doesn't extrapolate to much of EOTE Nov 2013 #232
Not being an American, I'm not an absolutist when it comes to censorship... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #240
This is about possession of material that it is already illegal to publish muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #252
And you're an actual Brit, right? BainsBane Nov 2013 #414
Well, I think there is one other who currently lives in the UK muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #427
It's a relief to see they've unshackled you long enough BainsBane Nov 2013 #445
Who was the person that refused? Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #356
I can make a movie depicting anything does not mean I did it loli phabay Nov 2013 #118
And people have a real weird conception of what "consent" involves. duffyduff Nov 2013 #513
I couldn't agree more. BainsBane Nov 2013 #525
rape is never consensual JI7 Nov 2013 #148
simulated rape porn is, get the word simulated loli phabay Nov 2013 #152
Spell it slowly maybe Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #156
If I may step in here..I think the term might be "Simulated assault Scene" with emphasis on the word BlueJazz Nov 2013 #169
good point, well made loli phabay Nov 2013 #172
Is simulated Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #612
its much the same as any sexual act, there are some people who enjoy it loli phabay Nov 2013 #616
I guess my issue Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #622
i agree that there are some real sickos, its the same with horror movies. loli phabay Nov 2013 #623
you are not jacking off to horror films create an euphoric reaction thru the chemicals in your brain seabeyond Nov 2013 #627
some people do, same as violent movies, and some are sick loli phabay Nov 2013 #662
bullshit. horror films are not created with the absolute intent to get a person off, firstly. seabeyond Nov 2013 #664
on this i agree, its all about slamming the real stuff loli phabay Nov 2013 #665
in any fatnasy, the people have total control of that fantasy. it is not rape. it is wrong to seabeyond Nov 2013 #667
yup its fantasy, i think thats the point i have been making loli phabay Nov 2013 #672
what is put on screen is not the same as what we fantasize about. that would be the point. seabeyond Nov 2013 #684
on this we agree, the line is blurred. loli phabay Nov 2013 #690
we went from fantasized rape that isnt rape can be fun, to rape is fun. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #691
i think when discussing stuff like this its important to draw distinct lines loli phabay Nov 2013 #693
Slope? This is already slipped and landed. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #284
Goodbye Game of Thrones LittleBlue Nov 2013 #5
Correct, except... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #285
Ridiculous. There must be people here who remember the "Sopranos" episode where Melfi got raped. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #7
it does say something with how much graphic rape we have in our shows to entertain us, right? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #8
Well, I'm not sure "entertain" is the correct word in this case. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #15
entertain is exactly the word. actual girls, raped and put on the net to entertain the boys. ya... seabeyond Nov 2013 #17
I respectfully disagree with your characterization of some of the posts. Quantess Nov 2013 #59
Or, at best, the series' writers', producers' and chervilant Nov 2013 #809
hey there, i would say that like violence on tv etc, it shows that we all have a dark side loli phabay Nov 2013 #16
right. that would be why we have so much of the real thing put on the net for entertainment. but, seabeyond Nov 2013 #18
i agree with the issue over the real thing, thats when prosecution should be hard loli phabay Nov 2013 #19
wrong. it feeds the appetite. it sexualizes and exploits. they are at the point of sexualizing seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
the fetish side of it is already out there, with every other fetish from the wierd to the sick loli phabay Nov 2013 #23
After conflating BDSM/fetish play with real rape, backscatter712 Nov 2013 #35
thats the problem with stuff like this, its hard to differentiate sometimes loli phabay Nov 2013 #40
Banana! n/t backscatter712 Nov 2013 #41
lol. all i can think to that is, have a banana (chas and dave) loli phabay Nov 2013 #43
Let me make my point. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #49
yup i know, but all i could think of was the song, penguin penguin loli phabay Nov 2013 #50
Another good safeword! backscatter712 Nov 2013 #52
that and Constantinople are the two best i have heard loli phabay Nov 2013 #57
I get your point, and haven't you heard of men get turned on by being tied up, demeaned whathehell Nov 2013 #257
love is not what its about, its about fun and fulfilling fantasies loli phabay Nov 2013 #268
Not for for you, perhaps, but for many others, having sex is different than 'going to the movies" whathehell Nov 2013 #297
opinions are something we all have and your entitled to yours. loli phabay Nov 2013 #310
If that's all you've got.. whathehell Nov 2013 #317
no problem, no point arguing if we wont change each others minds, civility wins loli phabay Nov 2013 #323
True enough...n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #326
Nah.. whathehell Nov 2013 #263
not really, it was not that long ago people were accusing pedo priests etc of being a gay problem loli phabay Nov 2013 #272
This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Nov 2013 #38
"The mere tendency of speech to encourage unlawful acts is not a sufficient reason for banning it.." davidn3600 Nov 2013 #77
Case in point. The massive increase in rapes since the release of the film "Deliverance". EOTE Nov 2013 #202
Are people really not understanding what rape porn is? ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #42
why dont you just tell us what it is loli phabay Nov 2013 #44
Here's a clue: The Sopranos, Clockwork Orange, Deliverance, I Spit on Your Grave aren't muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #69
confused me there, sorry i think i must be reading your post wrong loli phabay Nov 2013 #70
Only in America would people think Game of Thrones and Clockwork Orange is porn... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #146
Of course, because the denizens of Oz are so BRILLIANT as to never make that mistake, right? whathehell Nov 2013 #314
What the hell?? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #339
Crumble?? whathehell Nov 2013 #378
If you have me on ignore, why make out all my posts are bigoted? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #388
I believe I used the word "had" and I didn't say ALL your posts are bigoted, lol whathehell Nov 2013 #410
You definitely implied it... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #420
No, you just inferred it whathehell Nov 2013 #452
'Is there ANY thread in which you can't find some small excuse to vent your anti-American Bigotry?' Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #457
No understanding of nuance (them, not you). Seems evidence of a childlike psychology. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #320
Watch out. You'll be labelled an anti-American bigot as well if yr not careful n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #341
It's okay, I am an American. So I have a measure of immunity, I suppose. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #343
Bullshit...Speak to her of Australians "in general"..She doesn't even KNOW any Americans, whathehell Nov 2013 #346
Just observations of my own countrymen/women. Having lived my whole life in this country. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #353
i think its more of a case of i am right and evryone else is wrong loli phabay Nov 2013 #374
Having lived your whole life in this country, your ability to "compare and contrast" whathehell Nov 2013 #386
Of course not. But I was responding specifically to Violet's post. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #390
I understand.. whathehell Nov 2013 #393
Okay, time for you to produce these MANY anti-American posts... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #428
Crumple, you don't call "time" on me, okay? whathehell Nov 2013 #438
Figured you wouldn't come up with anything to back you up... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #442
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! whathehell Nov 2013 #463
Okay, seeing you keep on saying yr leaving and don't, I'll pull the plug now... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #473
Great idea, Vi...best yet! whathehell Nov 2013 #631
Excuse me? You have no idea where I've been or haven't been... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #426
Sorry, but that's just not true...I even gave you "tips" on where to go when you were whathehell Nov 2013 #441
No, you have no fucking idea... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #446
Yes, I do have some "fucking idea", lol, unless, of course, whathehell Nov 2013 #456
No, you don't. Yr not someone I'd want to know all about me... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #460
Oh My Gawd -- Are you just finding out that this board is public to all its members? whathehell Nov 2013 #471
Yr doing that not reading what's said to you stuff again... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #475
What is it with this "yr"?...You're not on Twitter, so perhaps you could spell it out in full, lol? whathehell Nov 2013 #629
Nobody's defending real rape. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #56
this seems to be the point being missed. loli phabay Nov 2013 #258
It sure looks to me as though people on DU Tumbulu Nov 2013 #537
no, differentiating between real rape and simulated rape is your first step, much like real murder loli phabay Nov 2013 #621
Thank you...You are correct. n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #259
This is a really disappointing thread Tumbulu Nov 2013 #534
yes. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #541
Well, what else are female characters good for in "gritty" entertainment? Scootaloo Nov 2013 #78
was that meant to be porn ? didn't watch the show but i'm guessing it was shown as rape JI7 Nov 2013 #151
Fucking Nazi-esque. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #9
this, what will be next consensual sexual act that will be on the list loli phabay Nov 2013 #13
Rape is a consensual act? BainsBane Nov 2013 #86
simulated rape in porn is consensual hence safe words loli phabay Nov 2013 #97
Wait, now you can enlighten me BainsBane Nov 2013 #347
okay just this once i will skeeze myself out and answer loli phabay Nov 2013 #362
If that safe word is explicit in the porn BainsBane Nov 2013 #370
once again the word sim ulated is in there, you know depiction. loli phabay Nov 2013 #372
You aren't being clear BainsBane Nov 2013 #376
there are ways of telling, thats why the cops get sent video if sometjing is not right loli phabay Nov 2013 #385
Okay BainsBane Nov 2013 #409
you have to get away from thinking porn is from companies loli phabay Nov 2013 #411
Then it seems such responsible consumption BainsBane Nov 2013 #413
not sure what you mean by this, i will elaborate a bit loli phabay Nov 2013 #421
TMI BainsBane Nov 2013 #440
no such thing as to much info if you want to make informed decisions on something loli phabay Nov 2013 #443
No, I mean I don't need to hear about your private BainsBane Nov 2013 #448
oh your not trust me, this is just simple info on the new faces of porn that are out there loli phabay Nov 2013 #449
My memory seems to be better than yours BainsBane Nov 2013 #453
lol i dont recall looking for or needing your approval of my prowess loli phabay Nov 2013 #454
No, I don't recall your needing my approval either BainsBane Nov 2013 #494
well you can always hide thread or ignore, thats options for you loli phabay Nov 2013 #506
+100000 Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #571
No skin off my nose BainsBane Nov 2013 #577
You either feign ignorance or just flat out act obtuse as all hell. EOTE Nov 2013 #670
How do people prevent themselves from being killed in horror movies? EOTE Nov 2013 #666
How much human trafficking Is involved in Hollywood productions? BainsBane Nov 2013 #668
I don't know. 15? 20? I'm sure you know or else you wouldn't have asked, so tell me. EOTE Nov 2013 #671
wow. the total dismissal and irrelevance sex trafficking has on you. abusing women. meh? so? seabeyond Nov 2013 #680
Last I checked, sex trafficking affected both genders. EOTE Nov 2013 #681
yes. women and children, the vulnerable in our society. gets a meh. seabeyond Nov 2013 #682
Only in your silly mind does it get a 'meh'. EOTE Nov 2013 #685
and your reply. but, wtf, right? seabeyond Nov 2013 #686
Is that a haiku or something? EOTE Nov 2013 #687
3-3 to leave this post Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #697
And I alerted on Juror #2. JTFrog Nov 2013 #698
Sanity rules. nt EOTE Nov 2013 #699
More like mob rules. n/t JTFrog Nov 2013 #700
Sorry you didn't get your way. EOTE Nov 2013 #701
Sorry you don't have a clue how to have a civil discussion. JTFrog Nov 2013 #702
Says the one accusing others of mob mentality and being a jerk and an embarrassment. EOTE Nov 2013 #703
Says the one that has a string of personal attacks JTFrog Nov 2013 #705
So "Nuh uh, you are!" is the best you can do now? EOTE Nov 2013 #706
Are you intentionally misunderstanding the obvious? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #344
So you are saying British law makes no distinction between art and pornography? BainsBane Nov 2013 #352
Making this "distinction"... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #358
Courts make that distinction between art and pornography all the time BainsBane Nov 2013 #368
And you are satisfied with a police state. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #377
It's not a new category. Child porn is already illegal. BainsBane Nov 2013 #394
A dangerous prevarication. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #447
Wrong again BainsBane Nov 2013 #483
Disgusting? smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #775
One Brit living under the police state clarifies the law here BainsBane Nov 2013 #415
This law is going to be argued in the courts by lawyers... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #696
+1000000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #477
One of the most common "sexual fantasies" chervilant Nov 2013 #708
Consensual rape fantasy/play is not actual rape. woo me with science Nov 2013 #721
You are entitled to your opinions chervilant Nov 2013 #767
Oh honestly, three years is not enough Tumbulu Nov 2013 #516
Disturbing in this thread how many at once thinks about fictional images of rape KitSileya Nov 2013 #11
there is a big difference between actual rape videos and pics and there being a victim loli phabay Nov 2013 #14
That's because the proposed law applies to fictional images of rape as well as real ones. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #24
We can see you don't understand it, because you brought up The Sopranos muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #73
I was going by the OP, which said "images of rape, whether simulated or not". Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #93
it says "It is against the law to publish images of rape but a legal loophole ... muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #102
So how do you define, in the law, what is legal and what is not? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #109
Exactly! LeftishBrit Nov 2013 #158
Nobody is arguing against banning real sexual assault. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #39
You've nailed it...Thank you. n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #261
Thank you. KitSileya Nov 2013 #651
Yes. "Many on this thread are more worried about their titillation than the fabric of our culture" whathehell Nov 2013 #726
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #774
Yes, very well stated Tumbulu Nov 2013 #551
Thank you. KitSileya Nov 2013 #660
AND, where 54% of male college students surveyed, chervilant Nov 2013 #709
More censorship for our own own good.. Upton Nov 2013 #12
If it's simulated and between two consenting adults, why should it matter? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #20
because it infects the imaginations of people Tumbulu Nov 2013 #548
People say the same thing about violent video games. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #549
so why is child porn outlawed then? Tumbulu Nov 2013 #554
Because... children aren't capable of consent. Adults are. opiate69 Nov 2013 #558
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #562
This message was self-deleted by its author Tumbulu Nov 2013 #567
Stupid question. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #580
big difference between the two. seabeyond Nov 2013 #557
I was wondering when you would reply. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #578
on film? how do you know? how do you know it is simulated and not actual rape? seabeyond Nov 2013 #581
Oh good god. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #583
ya. one was brought onto du from fb. from teh minute she was picked up off the street to taken out seabeyond Nov 2013 #585
I was talking about the simulated stuff b/w consenting adults. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #586
they are using kidnapped women and children to make the rape porn. they can easily put the little seabeyond Nov 2013 #589
I'm pretty sure that stuff isn't sold in adult stores. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #601
did i say ALL... ok. so you have a section of rape porn you are pretty sure, not positive, but seabeyond Nov 2013 #626
Yeah, right, chervilant Nov 2013 #710
Well aren't you delightful. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #711
Yes, I am. chervilant Nov 2013 #716
Looks like you have trouble understanding my point as well. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #718
Do you regularly view rape porn? chervilant Nov 2013 #742
It's hard to answer your questions respectfully... Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #743
Now, see, chervilant Nov 2013 #744
This message was self-deleted by its author Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #745
When you can't tell "simulated" sexual violence from the real thing, you get laws nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #587
Are you against murder in movies? Democat Nov 2013 #619
It can desensitize some people to violence against women. Edited to include it not I. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #561
I have no problem with banning actual rape porn. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #22
probuably safest thing is to record the whole thing with consent taped at the start and parameters loli phabay Nov 2013 #25
Allow me to clarify--any porn revolving around using geek tragedy Nov 2013 #26
no problem, but its both male and female who have the fetish and its not really about the rape loli phabay Nov 2013 #28
how idiotic! this is not about fantasy Tumbulu Nov 2013 #545
and yet you find the time to worry about what consenting adults do in their sex lifes loli phabay Nov 2013 #615
what about women and their 50 shades obsession. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2013 #30
I thank god every day for the first amendment. davidn3600 Nov 2013 #32
+1 Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #33
Yes, Jefferson wrote that the ability of wannabe rapists to wank geek tragedy Nov 2013 #36
And the ability of the KKK to hold marches. And the ability of people to use the "f" word in public. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #54
Jefferson's first amendment didn't protect any of that stuff. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #65
Do you want to make a list of what would be banned under such a stupid law in America? davidn3600 Nov 2013 #55
If you read more closely, you'll see that the justiciability of standards geek tragedy Nov 2013 #67
LOL. whathehell Nov 2013 #321
Yes Jefferson, whose relationship with Sally Hemmings was totally 100% consensual... Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #533
sick defender of women being tortured and beaten! Tumbulu Nov 2013 #556
+1 PassingFair Nov 2013 #245
You're talking about stuff that, even if it doesn't depict real sexual assault, is indistinguishable nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #337
the ban on underage depictions is likely not constitutional in the US nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #404
I know. And the law in the OP wouldn't likely hold up here either. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #408
Just men? There's a thriving and active community of women who enjoy Codeine Nov 2013 #354
correct women are just as kinky as men. loli phabay Nov 2013 #423
In that case, you're opposed to the First Amendment to the Constitution, and I'm opposed to you. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #630
Quite the conceited argument you make, proposing that anyone who disagrees geek tragedy Nov 2013 #669
Conceited. Yeah, I get that way when people want to trample the 1A. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #674
You get that way when people disagree with you. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #675
I've said what I came to say. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #676
yes, in the manner of the Church Lady nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #677
It is already against the law to publish images of rape porn, so The Accused is unaffected muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #80
How can you come up with a definition of "rape porn" Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #101
A case of the jury knowing it when they see it, I think muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #94
that makes sense. Thanks for explaining. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #104
Evoking Game of Thrones and A Clockwork Orange BainsBane Nov 2013 #611
This law (according to the OP) only applies to material that's already illegal. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #328
so they are going to ban slasher / horror movies too. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2013 #27
I don't think rape should be eroticized gollygee Nov 2013 #29
People don't choose their kinks. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #31
+1 Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #34
Rape is a violent crime BainsBane Nov 2013 #87
There is a difference between a consensual fantasy and real sexual assault. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #96
Those are not rape fantasies BainsBane Nov 2013 #99
Like I said, the problem is that the consensual stuff will be labeled as "rape porn"... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #108
The problem seems to be BainsBane Nov 2013 #117
males and females both watch and participate in these simulations loli phabay Nov 2013 #120
Yes, and women participate in the human trafficking that BainsBane Nov 2013 #128
wtf are you on about now, dont you get it, people as part of their sex life loli phabay Nov 2013 #134
Don't lecture to me about sex BainsBane Nov 2013 #138
its not about sex, its submission, domination, power loli phabay Nov 2013 #141
Which is not what I'm talking about BainsBane Nov 2013 #145
to educate you, simulated rape is part of bdsm loli phabay Nov 2013 #150
You do understand that women watch BDSM videos too. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #123
You're the one broadbrushing BainsBane Nov 2013 #125
I think you have a filter that means you cant see the words below loli phabay Nov 2013 #130
Yes, and women's right to live as EQUALS outweighs misogynists' "right" to their sick erections. n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #736
Well, they don't clearly, not in this country BainsBane Nov 2013 #739
Yes, I know and THAT in itself, is an outrage! whathehell Nov 2013 #764
Every erect penis is a direct assault on women's rights everwhere? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #772
"there is correlation between watching that stuff and actual rape" You forgot a word. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #773
Thank you. He's an idiot. nt. sibelian Nov 2013 #373
despicable? no raping people is despicable Tumbulu Nov 2013 #550
I explained my position 20 times already. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #689
Just because you assert chervilant Nov 2013 #712
Force fantasies are usually identified among the top 3 WOMENS sexual fantasies. Xithras Nov 2013 #47
its actually very common, power and sex are closely linked in many fetishes of both sexes. loli phabay Nov 2013 #72
How about castration porn BainsBane Nov 2013 #88
Holy crap! zappaman Nov 2013 #91
I don't think it is BainsBane Nov 2013 #95
Rule 34 applies... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #173
if its consensual then why not, kinda like faecal play, not my thing loli phabay Nov 2013 #105
There isn't much of that is there? BainsBane Nov 2013 #110
rofl, vo do research you will be surprised at how much goes on loli phabay Nov 2013 #126
Well by all means BainsBane Nov 2013 #132
talking about simulated rape in porn loli phabay Nov 2013 #139
It's not all simulated BainsBane Nov 2013 #143
and yet you misd the point that consensual rape porn is not rape loli phabay Nov 2013 #155
Oh very good! nt Tumbulu Nov 2013 #569
It's not just about power. Xithras Nov 2013 #124
good post, the taboo has always been a big turn on for people loli phabay Nov 2013 #147
You're a man, but you speak only of women & with such "authority"..How about discussing MEN & their whathehell Nov 2013 #331
How about YOU go and find out ANYTHING AT ALL about the subject? sibelian Nov 2013 #371
Honey, I AM a woman...So maybe..Gee, just MAYBE I know something about women you and other men don't whathehell Nov 2013 #379
Yeah, because all women are exactly the same, and exactly like you Xithras Nov 2013 #397
Nah, not the point, but again, why don't you want to talk about YOUR fantasies or that of other men? whathehell Nov 2013 #405
How about YOURS? sibelian Nov 2013 #714
How about YOURS? whathehell Nov 2013 #725
Lol. I'm perfectly comfortable with it. Xithras Nov 2013 #720
Lol, that's nice, but since you decline to speak of them, whathehell Nov 2013 #724
How about YOU read my other POSTS on this thread, so YOU know what you are TALKING ABOUT whathehell Nov 2013 #402
Well... Xithras Nov 2013 #391
Of course.. whathehell Nov 2013 #400
Fantasies may be somewhat gender neutral in terms of the relative power dynamics BainsBane Nov 2013 #505
if such fantasies didn't exist, 50 shades of grey wouldn't be so popular with women. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #555
again... in fantasy there is total control over every that happens from appearance, to place, to seabeyond Nov 2013 #560
No one said they don't "exist"...Fifty shades of grey is popular with some women, hardly all, whathehell Nov 2013 #728
Oh tough shit! Tumbulu Nov 2013 #519
See the article linked in #511. tammywammy Nov 2013 #529
no. 62% of women create a scenario of an appearance of but no. they fantasize about the paticipants seabeyond Nov 2013 #536
so what? Is that a reason to make this stuff normal? Tumbulu Nov 2013 #540
Get your sicko attitude out of my life. sibelian Nov 2013 #713
when women fantasize about rape, they have control on all aspect of that rape. the man, seabeyond Nov 2013 #576
What's the difference between something being eroticised and someone having a fetish for something? sibelian Nov 2013 #53
We need safe outlets for people to explore their sexuality in a consensual and safe way. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #58
Yeah. I was involved in the Scottish BDSM community when I was younger, consent is CRUCIAL to them. sibelian Nov 2013 #137
Exactly - we're arguing in this threat over what is the definition of "rape porn". backscatter712 Nov 2013 #153
Well, as I understood it, imagery of anything ACTUALLY non-consensual isn't "rape porn" it's SNUFF. sibelian Nov 2013 #334
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #115
It shouldn't be n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #765
sorry FatBuddy Nov 2013 #37
rofl, loli phabay Nov 2013 #45
Some of them don't even try hard... n/t backscatter712 Nov 2013 #63
you used the word hard in a porn thread. tsk tsk loli phabay Nov 2013 #66
His trolling attempt was... Lancero Nov 2013 #71
rofl, now you have done it, it flopped big time. loli phabay Nov 2013 #74
I'm sorry, last I checked, porn is performed by consenting adults. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #81
thats the crux, anything consenting adults do should be none of anyones business loli phabay Nov 2013 #83
just in case you have not noticed Tumbulu Nov 2013 #566
When you are in a trusting relationship you can feel safe to explore sexual fantasies. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #570
rape porn? Tumbulu Nov 2013 #573
I see someone upthread has already addressed the child issue. Children cannot give consent so stop liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #723
when you are in a trusting relationship pretending to rape and be raped, you are not raping and seabeyond Nov 2013 #574
No. All porn is not rape. Porn is porn and rape is rape. sibelian Nov 2013 #324
*snork* name not needed Nov 2013 #425
Troll harder, troll! nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #546
Good. MadrasT Nov 2013 #46
thanks, is it okay for them to video it as well and post it so others can see. loli phabay Nov 2013 #48
I suppose if it's clearly depicted as consensual - and no one is actually hurt - then it's okay. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #359
i think that it would be better to have the contract in writing or on tape loli phabay Nov 2013 #364
Disclaimers at the start of the video, etc. Just to clearly separate it from the "real thing." nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #367
could have one of those no animals where hurt in the making things and some org certify it loli phabay Nov 2013 #369
Nobody wants to go to jail for consensual sex play. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #51
I agree. Which is why I think this law is problematic even if I sympathize with some of its goals. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #348
You just care what they watch... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #61
Whether or not YOU care isn't the issue. Laws are being drawn up. sibelian Nov 2013 #351
It's impossible to regulate fiction. ntt rrneck Nov 2013 #64
I don't think this is meant to "regulate fiction" though. It has to do with either *real* depictions nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #361
How do you distinguish one from the other? rrneck Nov 2013 #476
I don't want anyone to "regulate fiction." I thought I just said that. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #479
All fiction operates on the principle of rrneck Nov 2013 #485
But *I'm not talking about fiction of any kind*. That's the thing. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #487
Um, rrneck Nov 2013 #493
But what I'm talking about here is recordings of *actual crimes*. *Not* anything fictitious. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #499
If the good is indistinguishable from the bad rrneck Nov 2013 #507
Personally, I'd only be interested in prosecuting people who produce actual videos of criminal acts nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #526
I agree. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #543
Based on the Scottish law... MyshkinCommaPrince Nov 2013 #75
the scottish law is not to bad, only issues i have is the could cause severe injury part loli phabay Nov 2013 #79
It may be ambiguously outlined... MyshkinCommaPrince Nov 2013 #84
Cartoon tentacle porn won't be affected by this, I'm pretty sure... Though I could be wrong... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #363
Thank God!!!!! Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #737
I'm actually not kidding when I say that I've studiously avoided hentai up till now. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #746
I'm too old, man. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #747
Oh yeah, "Fritz"! I've seen bits and pieces of it, been meaning to watch the whole thing. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #749
R. Crumb hated it so much, he killed the character afterwards. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #751
Poor kitty! nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #753
More.... MyshkinCommaPrince Nov 2013 #92
"possessing pornography which depicts rape" SirRevolutionary Nov 2013 #76
Well, the Japanese porn market is certainly not gonna like this... Lobo27 Nov 2013 #82
Excellent BainsBane Nov 2013 #85
Good. Jamastiene Nov 2013 #90
erm, you know that guys do it to loli phabay Nov 2013 #112
No, really? NealK Nov 2013 #159
well the comment seemed to imply on women were simulated raped, I was pointing out loli phabay Nov 2013 #171
I'm not sure that I understand your first sentence but NealK Nov 2013 #215
gah i hate typing on the cellphone it always messes up words or autocorrects loli phabay Nov 2013 #253
Fun movie to watch, that is relevant: Preaching to the Perverted. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #103
But fictional portrayals of murder are still OK? Throd Nov 2013 #113
All clearly fictional portrayals (as in feature films) are "OK" I'm pretty sure. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #365
So what does that mean for "fantasy rape" porn? Buddha_of_Wisdom Nov 2013 #121
There's the rub. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #127
"People engaging in erotic fantasy play are in danger of..." NealK Nov 2013 #192
Thank you BainsBane Nov 2013 #208
Really? NealK Nov 2013 #231
PWF BainsBane Nov 2013 #237
as i said earlier real rape tapes should be hammered but consenting adults should be able to record loli phabay Nov 2013 #254
It means they'll host it in a different country LittleBlue Nov 2013 #131
"whether they claim they are ‘simulated’ or not." NealK Nov 2013 #154
I see Camerwrong has fixed everything else in the UK and has to time to deal with this stuff now.... truebrit71 Nov 2013 #157
Only 6 Recs? NealK Nov 2013 #167
Oh goody, it's thoughtcrime time! Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #177
That's why I'm skeptical of this law, even though I agree with some of its objectives... n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #366
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #178
Hamburglar sentenced to 30 years for "simulated" theft. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #203
What the nasty apologists in this thread don't understand is, everything in a movie is ALWAYS real. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #228
No, but it sometimes is BainsBane Nov 2013 #241
if they are paying then they are doing it wrong, i could link you to many free sites rigjt now loli phabay Nov 2013 #255
Do you pay for Google? BainsBane Nov 2013 #260
lol, youbreally think that ibwant you to watch something that you are talking as an expert on loli phabay Nov 2013 #265
So watching some porn BainsBane Nov 2013 #267
lol loli phabay Nov 2013 #269
no such luck BainsBane Nov 2013 #271
n/t loli phabay Nov 2013 #273
The right of people to wank to giant robots destroying cities Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #289
Bull. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #403
Pornography is NOT fantasy--it is reality. duffyduff Nov 2013 #515
So you are of the opinion that women are not capable of consenting to have sex in front of a camera, Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #600
Pictures of consenting adults doing things the government doesn't like = crime cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #256
Why do people continue to assume it's all consensual? BainsBane Nov 2013 #262
There are mainstream, popular porn stars who participate in rape pornography. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #270
I don't know what percentage BainsBane Nov 2013 #296
And that is certainly a worthy discussion. But I think what should be the main discussion here... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #307
Did you see that Ted video in HOF BainsBane Nov 2013 #315
No, I'll go watch it. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #318
why cant you see that its two different things we are talking about loli phabay Nov 2013 #276
I'm sorry but the equation of two consenting adults does not mean rape porn is okay. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #282
i dont know were this idea that its against women, women are big into this as well loli phabay Nov 2013 #295
I really, seriously don't need a lecture on human sexuality from you. Just an FYI. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #302
This message was self-deleted by its author loli phabay Nov 2013 #308
That argument won't survive in the Supreme Court... davidn3600 Nov 2013 #300
I have not once in this entire thread stated that rape pornography should be illegal. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #303
You made a promise to be done with me BainsBane Nov 2013 #292
nah i did not give you my word, i answered you without realising it loli phabay Nov 2013 #301
Anything that is not consensual is already illegal. No new law is needed. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #294
Demand fuels human trafficking BainsBane Nov 2013 #299
Humans are also trafficked to work in factories. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #304
Do you believe the consumer bears no responsibility BainsBane Nov 2013 #319
I don't shop in Walmart, but plenty of DUers do. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #355
My concern for workers rights BainsBane Nov 2013 #360
So you support three-year sentences for Walmart shoppers? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #478
Do you support no prosecution for 96% of rapists? BainsBane Nov 2013 #486
No, and what an insulting question. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #508
bullshit BainsBane Nov 2013 #539
I would say for sure that we need more protections for workers in general, not just sex workers... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #572
And no one in their right mind is trying to make all pornography illegal. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #375
And someone in the Government gets to define whats "problematic" (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #380
Yeah, that's part of the problem right there. And I acknowlege that this is a complex, frustrating nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #384
"no one in their right mind is trying to make all pornography illegal" Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #605
Yeah because attacking demand has worked out so well in the war on drugs! davidn3600 Nov 2013 #322
The war on drugs has dealt almost entirely with supply BainsBane Nov 2013 #325
What a load of crap davidn3600 Nov 2013 #382
Tell that to Colombia and Mexico BainsBane Nov 2013 #406
Should we ban horror movies since guys like Ted Bundy may "get off" on it? davidn3600 Nov 2013 #418
"This thread defending rape porn" JackRiddler Nov 2013 #470
LOL BainsBane Nov 2013 #472
I see you've met the friend. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #754
Well, shit... opiate69 Nov 2013 #755
THATS HIS LEG, SIR Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #757
heh.. kinda reminds me of my high school days.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #759
Who knew Dee Snyder was carrying around Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #777
Jeepers. If that's the case then maybe you cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #492
You think that doesn't concern me? BainsBane Nov 2013 #496
Why anyone would want to watch that kind of porn is beyond me. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #264
is not all porn garbage to people not into it, theres shitloads of stuff out there that few watch loli phabay Nov 2013 #275
I am not saying all porn is garage. I said this kind is. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #277
its one of those if it floats your boat question, we all have kinks and fetishes that seem strange t loli phabay Nov 2013 #283
I just don't get how someone can find rape porn appealing. Scary stuff. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #288
You are completely disregarding the substantive consequence of prolific sexual violence. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #290
and like it or not its part of human nature, now we can fight the violence loli phabay Nov 2013 #306
I'm not an essentialist so if you are arguing that rape is implicitly within the human mind... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #309
think if you read again, i was saying that submission domination etc are part of us all loli phabay Nov 2013 #311
Domination and submission is part of us all because we justify their existence. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #312
i respect your opinion but disagree, i am happy with domination and submission and loli phabay Nov 2013 #316
The law doesn't criminalize bdsm BainsBane Nov 2013 #332
sorry thought i was done with you. n/t loli phabay Nov 2013 #336
You won't answer the question? BainsBane Nov 2013 #340
Witness the defenders of the law BainsBane Nov 2013 #416
I just don't get how anyone can watch something like that. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #419
That's because you're a good soul BainsBane Nov 2013 #424
think of it this way, are there aspects of your own sexuality that some people dont get loli phabay Nov 2013 #429
If a person has a fetish for watching rape then they need to get a new fetish. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #430
going to try to take this one apart, for some its the rape aspect that titillates, some are sick loli phabay Nov 2013 #433
Look I understand you are trying to explain it but it seems horrible to me. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #434
yup, i get it. its one of those things that makes us all different loli phabay Nov 2013 #436
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Nov 2013 #609
Feel free to avoid it. How vanilla stuff turns anyone on is a mystery to ME. sibelian Nov 2013 #327
Ok. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #330
bingo, loli phabay Nov 2013 #333
It's a mystery why rape survivors BainsBane Nov 2013 #338
And survivors of mass shootings probably hate to see gun violence in movies. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #407
Firstly, the numbers aren't comparable BainsBane Nov 2013 #412
And damaging Tumbulu Nov 2013 #520
Yes this is very damaging to people because some but not all will become desensitized by this. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #523
Coming soon "All things deemed "naughty" to be banned" Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #280
When consenting adults decide to make a movie of themselves doing something, and nobody gets hurt, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #281
I agree with this. Which is why they need to clearly differentiate what they're doing nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #381
Also important to distinguish between real "snuff" films and simulated violence (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #383
Of course. No argument from me. But no sane person watches a violent movie and think it's real. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #389
This is what happens when people who can't tell the diff between... MrScorpio Nov 2013 #293
But does anyone really *need* to do that weird "BDSM" stuff? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #305
and a chaperone to make sure nothing untoward happens. loli phabay Nov 2013 #313
I find it fascinating that the only ones here conflating BDSM and rape BainsBane Nov 2013 #345
Well those folks need to educate themselves on the difference as well MrScorpio Nov 2013 #357
or those who think mainstream movies and tv shows JI7 Nov 2013 #417
This is why, as I said, people need to very clearly differentiate their simulations nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #392
awesome publice service advert. loli phabay Nov 2013 #398
Rape for the sake of rape ( not part of a plot ) is Misanthropy orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #329
Excellent point about Ted Bundy BainsBane Nov 2013 #342
So whatever any killer blames for his crimes, we should ban. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #349
Any Killer ? We shouldn't ban kiddie porn ? or only if they kill the child ? orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #455
This thread is a about putting consenting adults in prison Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #459
This thread is in GD, and it's about Scumbags that support orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #607
Yeah, because it's not like Ted Bundy JackRiddler Nov 2013 #350
Once in prison, how about on the way to the chair . And " Media influence " orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #458
I don't disagree with the spirit of the law, even if I'm dubious on the 3-year sentence for nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #396
simply have a page at the start that says peta approved loli phabay Nov 2013 #399
"BRILLIANT!" nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #401
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" or "law of unintended consequences" or something. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #422
In general I agree. But what happens when you can't tell the "real thing" from the fake? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #480
Then what would their crime be....being uninformed? Captain Stern Nov 2013 #482
You have a point. And that's why I have my reservations about the extension of the law. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #490
you would rather see guilty folks watching a real rape in progress get away... well, bully for you. seabeyond Nov 2013 #495
Yes, If that's the only choice. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #640
i do not want to see women and our children brutally raped for the entertainment of men. for seabeyond Nov 2013 #647
I also don't want see our women and children brutally raped for the entertainment of men. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #654
whose responsibility is it? the victim throwing a clue out during her rape so a buyer knows? or seabeyond Nov 2013 #655
since there is a huge market of trafficked women and children forced, or girls blackmailed to do seabeyond Nov 2013 #652
Fair Enough. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #657
Just watch bluestateguy Nov 2013 #431
plunking, lol in some ways thats better than pegging. loli phabay Nov 2013 #435
No, the law only makes illegal possession of porn that is illegal to produce BainsBane Nov 2013 #467
I wish people would stop freaking out and realize what this law actually entails. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #484
Come on BainsBane Nov 2013 #488
Very true. I suppose that's something of a built-in feature, when it comes to Internet nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #491
You created those Strawman with 50 posts in this thread DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #636
how do you know the difference between the "simulated" rape and actual rape how do you know you seabeyond Nov 2013 #637
That question has been posed lots of times in this thread DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #642
huge sex slave trafficking with the sole purpose of producing rape films and presented to the public seabeyond Nov 2013 #658
Wrong. BainsBane Nov 2013 #641
OP is about the UK. It quickly devolved into a hypothetical discussion about the US. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #643
You haven't bothered to follow my argument in the slightest BainsBane Nov 2013 #648
I told you not to waste my time. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #653
My thoughts Aaron8418 Nov 2013 #432
Rape is one of the most common sexual fantasies. woo me with science Nov 2013 #481
+1 n/t tammywammy Nov 2013 #497
That is shocking. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #501
See post 511. tammywammy Nov 2013 #512
I don't believe those fantasies are actually rape BainsBane Nov 2013 #502
Not all women that have rape fantasies are about being "ravished" tammywammy Nov 2013 #511
interesting, knew it was not rare just not that common loli phabay Nov 2013 #514
It's probably higher tammywammy Nov 2013 #517
yeah that was me, furries i just dont get but its their thing loli phabay Nov 2013 #518
in a womans rape fantasy, it is her fantasy to control. everything about the rape is her control seabeyond Nov 2013 #527
As a rape victim, yes I do know what rape is. tammywammy Nov 2013 #547
in the article it is what is in the womans head. ALL is in her control with her "rape" fantasy that seabeyond Nov 2013 #553
And that is precisely why it is called 'fantasy' Bonobo Nov 2013 #602
that is not what rape, nor supposed simulated rape created is. that would be the issue. seabeyond Nov 2013 #635
Role play of the type described could easily appear to someone to be a Bonobo Nov 2013 #639
the escalation of sex trafficking, kidnapping women and children, forcing rape on them, seabeyond Nov 2013 #656
No, I'm not saying that at all. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #659
so, you feel the buyer is responisble for the porn he consumes that a victim is not being forced seabeyond Nov 2013 #661
Yes, I do. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #663
You keep bringing up this stuff about chemical reactions. Do you have a scientific source or study Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #738
Yet isn't rape and fantasy an oxymoron? BainsBane Nov 2013 #522
woman has NO control in RAPE. fantasy of rape, she has control of ALL elements of rape. it is not seabeyond Nov 2013 #530
This just in: The Human Psyche is complex, and occasionally paradoxical…. opiate69 Nov 2013 #532
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Nov 2013 #535
Yes and producing this stuff may desensitize some people to rape. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #544
Sexuality is mysterious and that includes fantasies. tammywammy Nov 2013 #538
I can agree with that BainsBane Nov 2013 #542
It's consentual forcible sex. tammywammy Nov 2013 #552
Again, I disupte they are rape BainsBane Nov 2013 #564
Consensual "forcible" sex might be a better way to put it. The quotation marks are important. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #575
how forcible is it when both parties agree this is what they are playing at? she can pretend to be seabeyond Nov 2013 #579
That's pretty much exactly what I was saying. Hence the quotes. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #582
ah, ok. thanks. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #584
Well.. let`s see.... opiate69 Nov 2013 #590
so, i am right. pretend. role play. the person trusts each other. big whoop. that is not rape. seabeyond Nov 2013 #592
And nobody here, again, is defending real rape. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #683
if you are defending the right to the rape porn, then ya, you are defending real rape. a vast amount seabeyond Nov 2013 #688
I'm saying that Cameron's law doesn't distinguish between... backscatter712 Nov 2013 #692
i do not give a fuck about camerons law. i an addressing the men that validate, normalize, excuse, seabeyond Nov 2013 #695
what is wrong is equating all this to actual rape. fantasy is nothing about rape. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #593
That isn't what the law targets BainsBane Nov 2013 #594
How odd that you keep leaving out the important part of the language. Looks intentionally deceptive. Bonobo Nov 2013 #608
consentual forcible sex done exactly how the person wants it done and with who.... how forcible is seabeyond Nov 2013 #565
So what, it is violent torture Tumbulu Nov 2013 #521
my brother dated a girl once who told him she wanted to play out a rape fantasy with him. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #559
she chooses her rapist? and how would that be rape. they could play all they want, but she seabeyond Nov 2013 #568
Well good job! They are poisonous Tumbulu Nov 2013 #524
If the movie is fiction, it's clear censorship. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #620
how do you know the girls/women are willing? free of responsibility if you do not know? seabeyond Nov 2013 #632
How about examining the actual law BainsBane Nov 2013 #588
taking away all the fun. people are BORN with these kinks. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #591
You (intentionally) left out the significant part of that. I'll fix it for you. Bonobo Nov 2013 #595
Does this mean videos of piercings are illegal? backscatter712 Nov 2013 #679
Hardly a broad or vague standard, it would seem. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #596
and Game of Thrones BainsBane Nov 2013 #597
I think people are more afraid of the slippery slope and how such a law would apply in America davidn3600 Nov 2013 #598
No, because if it's not illegal to make it's not illegal to possess BainsBane Nov 2013 #599
You're wrong and making up things. Bonobo Nov 2013 #603
If a simulated depiction of a criminal act is indistinguishable from the "real thing" nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #604
For those who aren't regular consumers of rape porn BainsBane Nov 2013 #614
How about the Government bans anything that is "extremely offensive to the average person"? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #618
Try reading the actual law BainsBane Nov 2013 #624
The law says "or depicts it in a realistic way". Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #625
Okay BainsBane Nov 2013 #628
It's already illegal to traffic, rape, and kill people. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #633
What's with the constant refrain about consenting adults? BainsBane Nov 2013 #638
How about keeping actual murder and rape illegal, but fictional murder and rape legal? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #644
"provided" BainsBane Nov 2013 #645
1. Yes, I want to keep actual murder and rape illegal. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #650
Ah, I see you've met the old debatin' pal Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #748
My reading of the law is that it doesn't ban such fictional portrayals. BainsBane Nov 2013 #808
You realize at the current state, this thread has 676 posts and you account for 118 of them? snooper2 Nov 2013 #678
You don't have a clue what the word "consensual" means. cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #719
Someone in this thread keeps asserting that its -impossible- for a woman to consent Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #741
Also... opiate69 Nov 2013 #750
Zesty, perhaps, being an adjective better reserved for salad dressing Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #752
I should make sure I journal that post of mine... opiate69 Nov 2013 #756
And I totally forgot the Big Lebowski reference until just now. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #760
Any time is a good time to dust off the old dvd and pour a Caucasian.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #761
Heh. But I did back in the day, fo sho'... Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #762
You do know we aren't talking about your private sex life here? BainsBane Nov 2013 #781
This post brought to you by the Department of Inane Non-Sequitors. opiate69 Nov 2013 #786
Gee, I had such hopes for you BainsBane Nov 2013 #787
As long as we're rating substance... opiate69 Nov 2013 #788
That PM wasn't directed at you, so I fail to see why I need to discuss it with you. BainsBane Nov 2013 #789
Did I now?? opiate69 Nov 2013 #791
An affiliated page? BainsBane Nov 2013 #793
Hmmm... opiate69 Nov 2013 #794
No, it was in the middle of Pab's meltdown BainsBane Nov 2013 #795
I never said it was "official" DU.. opiate69 Nov 2013 #796
You're lecturing me about reading comprehension? BainsBane Nov 2013 #799
Somebody obviously needs to. Your history here makes that crystal clear. opiate69 Nov 2013 #801
It takes a strong person to admit he or she is wrong. BainsBane Nov 2013 #806
Kind of ironic since HOF regularly calls the owners of the site misogynists. nt Bonobo Nov 2013 #800
And, worse if memory serves... opiate69 Nov 2013 #802
Who? BainsBane Nov 2013 #780
You lost any chance to get my time, consideration & energy when you sent me the "**** ***" PM. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #782
fair enough BainsBane Nov 2013 #783
I'll do what I want, thanks. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #784
I understand no one has said rape is great BainsBane Nov 2013 #785
It's like she's Tom Brady to your Richard Sherman... opiate69 Nov 2013 #792
Wow. That's got to be the most bizarre posts I've ever read BainsBane Nov 2013 #779
Oh god, your rationalization is just laughable. smirkymonkey Nov 2013 #818
What makes you think they will? BainsBane Nov 2013 #807
No, the problem would be that a person would face criminal charges for Bonobo Nov 2013 #634
Lots of DUers have a great deal of trust that prosecutors will be able to determine Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #646
Ah, the fun Ken Cuccinelli would have with Cameron's new law. backscatter712 Nov 2013 #694
As you know very well, prosecutors do not convict people in the UK muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #735
THis is a very long thread. AngryAmish Nov 2013 #673
My thoughts exactly. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #704
kudzu, my friend. kudza AngryAmish Nov 2013 #707
Graywarrior's "never die" thread. rrneck Nov 2013 #758
Wow, Straight Story, chervilant Nov 2013 #715
Truer words have never been said: NuclearDem Nov 2013 #717
Good! In_The_Wind Nov 2013 #722
Almost 800 replies. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #763
Starting to look like a hot celebrities thread. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #770
You only say that because you're worried the UK is going to take away your rubber walrus porn Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #771
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #778
No kidding. LittleBlue Nov 2013 #790
Gee, 16 recs and nearly 800 replies. I suspect fighting. nolabear Nov 2013 #797
EPIC FUCKING THREAD. This went exactly like I envisioned it to go. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #798
What I find really impressive is there is only one hidden post in this thread. n/t Kurska Nov 2013 #803
wonder how many alerts there have been though. but its amazing only one hide though loli phabay Nov 2013 #812
So are all simulated illegal activities between consenting adults illegal now? Kurska Nov 2013 #804
The funniest thing is people who think this will do literally anything besides send people to prison Kurska Nov 2013 #805
Actually, this would make if more effective than the original law muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #811
" And that will put some people off getting hold of it in the first place." Kurska Nov 2013 #813
Freedom of speech always has limits muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #814
Consensual adults doing consensual things in the privacy of their own home shouldn't be a limit Kurska Nov 2013 #815
This isn't, however, "in the privacy of their own home" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #816
I think you have a very tragic misunderstanding of what people who are into this are actually like Kurska Nov 2013 #817
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